There doesn't seem to any mention of these lens attachments providing video capture. If this feature is indeed missing, and I suspect it is, then I think this the most serious limitation. I'll be waiting for version 2.
Both the QX10 and QX100 can be used to record HD video. It's been mentioned in multiple hands-on reviews. And, in fact, due to the QX10's 10x zoom, it has image stabilization for video use.
Obviously, you've never used a Digital SLR camera. At least, not extensively. There's a BIG difference in the image creation capabilities of a Digital SLR versus a point & shoot. Not the least of which is tighter control over depth of field thanks to the SIGNIFICANTLY larger image sensors in Digital SLRs. And recent Digital SLRs can focus and take a photo in a fraction of the time and in a fraction of the light needed for point & shoot cameras.Granted, the best camera is the one you have with you. But anyone who thinks there aren't real and significant benefits to shooting with a interchangeable lens Digital SLR is just fooling themselves.
People seem to be still in the DSLR/Point and Shoot bind here. The mirrorless cameras are in between. The mirrorless cameras have large image sensors and interchangeable lenses - placing them above traditional point-and-shoots. The new Sony products make an iPhone into a pretty good mirrorless camera. Mark you are wrong about the "SIGNIFICANTLY larger image sensors in Digital SLRS". The 1" image sensor on the QX100 is considerably larger than the 22 mm X 15 mm sensor on current Canon Rebel and 60D DSLRs. You should read the specs before commenting. If you already have the phone these products give you a good mirrorless with half the weight. I would like to have that image sensor and interchangeable lenses. Hope someone comes out with this.
Actually, YOU should read the specs before commenting! The QX100 has a 1" sensor. Its dimensions are 13.2 mm x 8.8 mm. SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the 22.2 mm x 14.8 mm sensor in a Canon or Nikon APS-C camera. And, of course, the full-frame sensor in cameras like the 5D are 36 mm x 24 mm, which is about NINE TIMES the size of the sensor in the QX100.
Here's where you can look at the specs for the QX100:
And here's a little chart to help you visualize the different sizes of sensors (click image for larger version):
The Sony QX10 sensor is 1/2" (second from the left in the chart above). The QX100's sensor is 1", which would place it between the 2/3" and the 4/3". A pretty small sensor when compared to the APS-C sensor in the Canon Digital Rebel and downright PUNY when compared to a full-frame sensor!
I await your apology!
Edit: If the above chart isn't helpful to you, perhaps this one will be:
Well that isn't actually true, the '1"' sensor isn't actually an inch in size, its referring to a legacy scale (from memory) the Canon APS-C size sensor is actually quite a bit larger than the 1", as far as sensor sizes, its the canon APS-C, then the Nikon APS-C, then full frame.That really doesn't matter tho, I agree with you about mirrorless cameras, they are the camera that sits between the enthusiast & DSLR
PS, Damn, Mark beat me to it :P
Actually, YOU should read the specs before commenting! The QX100 has a 1" sensor. Its dimensions are 13.2 mm x 8.8 mm. SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the 22.2 mm x 14.8 mm sensor in a Canon or Nikon APS-C camera. And, of course, the FULL FRAME sensor in cameras like the 5D is 36 mm x 24 mm, which is about 9X the size of the sensor in the QX100.
And here's a little chart to help you visualize the different sizes of sensors:
The Sony QX10 sensor is 1/2" (second from the left in the chart above). The QX100's sensor is 1", which would place it between the 2/3" and the 4/3". A relatively small sensor when compared to the APS-C sensor in the Canon Digital Rebel and downright PUNY when compared to a full-frame sensor!
Mark, I apologize. I did not understand that '1" sensor' did not mean a 1" X 1" sensor (25.4 mm on a side). Where does one get 1" out of 13.2 mm X 8 mm? That's much less than 1" on a side and much less than 1 square inch. The diagonal of that is still just 15 mm so it doesn't have a 1" diagonal!?! Their nomenclature is very confusing and I thank you for setting me straight!
BTW, the inch-based sizing system stems from the vacuum image-sensing tube days. QX100's 13.2mm x 8.8mm sensor is able to image the same amount of area as a 1-inch vacuum tube image sensor. The inch-based sizing is simply a legacy way to reference the amount of image area that is captured by the sensor.
My question was answered many messages ago. But thank you for the input!
abarry wrote: »
Great. A 1" CMOS sensor! F 1.8!! All good in the zoom model, although I wish they would have had a f/2.5, instead of 4.9, at the tele end. Still superb. For $500, you're getting a DSLR, pretty much.
Question: Since the connection of the lens to phone is through P2P, does it mean I can be out in the wild taking photographs without any available Wi-Fi?
jeff fields wrote: »
You're not getting anything CLOSE to a DSLR. Also, for $500, you can get a real DSLR, used on Craigslist with a kit lens, that will blow this away.
Marvin wrote: »
There's a review here says it's based off the Sony RX100 camera:
So that's probably the best reference point for quality:
"Let's say you're thinking of buying a DSLR or mirrorless camera, slapping a 50mm lens on it, and shooting whatever you come across during the weekend, buy the RX100 instead. It's smaller, and for your purposes, will yield photos that are just as beautiful with less tinkering.
Or, let's say you're a serious photographer who doesn't want the burden of always carrying around a DSLR. The RX100 is right for you as well. No, you absolutely won't get all the same shots you can pull off with your bigger camera. But you will get some of them (especially in good light). And you won't have five extra pounds strapped on at all times. Plus, this is way better than your smartphone camera (even the good ones)."
There's compromises all the way up any given price range. I expect the quality will come out below a $500 Canon Rebel and well below a $4000 Canon 5D and it misses features out (changing lenses for a start). It's more comparable to a fixed lens point-and-shoot in the sub-$1000 price range. If it can give similar output to the $600 RX100 for a bit less money then it'll please some people and some might put aside their DSLR on occasions. It can't, as you say, replace a DSLR for people who use the features they offer.
@Mark Booth website addy?
nikon133 wrote: »
My problem here is - for $100 more, you get Sony RX100 camera with 1" 20MP CMOS sensor, 1.8 wide end aperture (28mm equivalent), flash, full manual controls (P, S, A...). Volume of the camera (with retracted lens) does not seem to be much larger than volume of this "lenses", it is actually more flat when retracted, thus more pocketable.
And you can pull it out of pocket or bag and shoot within a few seconds.
To me, this looks more practical compared to carrying, attaching and removing this add-on lens to my smartphone.
Marvin wrote: »
It depends on the use case. A significant number of people take pictures on their iPhone and upload them to flickr:
You can see the iPhone takes the top 3 spots in most popular cameras - not quite sure how multiple models have over 50%, maybe some accounts are families with multiple phones. Interestingly, the RX100 takes the top spot in point-and-shoot. This lens gives people a combination of both. Flickr has over 87 million members.
A few iPhone 5 pics use post-processing filters:
With the combination of the lens and phone, you get the quality of the RX100 and the immediate editing capability of the iPhone with direct upload to flickr.
This is a nice idea from Sony but its way too clumsy for real world use.
Why no flash? I'd love to see Canon and Nikon response to this.