Apple's iPhone 5s & iPhone 5c keynote now available via web and AppleTV

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  • Reply 41 of 66
    I can't understand why people are expecting a substantial feature upgrade when it is almost always readily apparent since iPhone 3GS that the S versions of the iPhone are always a refinement, improvement, adding a so-called "polish" to the the iteration of the iPhone prior to it.

    So to me this is a totally expected upgrade. I did not look forward to a mind blowing experience, and it seems I guessed right.

    But on the other hand, that Infinity Blade III demo sure looked sweet and mind blowing! Having played Infinity Blade I & II on my iPhone 4, this is by leaps & bounds a huge improvement to my game playing experience.
  • Reply 42 of 66
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    Originally Posted by nikmanshah View Post



    I can't understand why people are expecting a substantial feature upgrade when it is almost always readily apparent since iPhone 3GS that the S versions of the iPhone are always a refinement, improvement, adding a so-called "polish" to the the iteration of the iPhone prior to it.



    So to me this is a totally expected upgrade. I did not look forward to a mind blowing experience, and it seems I guessed right.



    But on the other hand, that Infinity Blade III demo sure looked sweet and mind blowing! Having played Infinity Blade I & II on my iPhone 4, this is by leaps & bounds a huge improvement to my game playing experience.

     

    I agree, and since S is for speed, one might think the S upgrade would deal with additional speed.... oh wait, it was :) That is why I am a bit surprised wireless ac was not included. 

  • Reply 43 of 66

    Listened/Watched the September 10th Keynote and all was very good until the announcement that Elvis Costello was going to perform.

     

    This was by far the worst message Apple could send to their loyal followers.

     

    U2 to Elvis Costello...this is a very, very, very bad statement about Apple's committment to excellence.

     

    Elvis Costello...???...my 26 year old son said..."Dad never heard of him"

     

    Awful, Awful, Awful...

     

    As an avid Apple user since 1984, I could not be more disappointed and ticked off..

     

    Just turned off the keynote and tuned in something my son heard of....

     

    ...a baseball game

  • Reply 44 of 66
    Originally Posted by Richard Getz View Post

    Do Apple fanboys go to Android sites and trash Android, or are we just that fortunate to have their company? 

     

    I've never seen any pro-Apple talk on any Android websites. I seriously doubt Apple fans are stupid enough to do that.

     
    Originally Posted by FredDavenport View Post

    Listened/Watched the September 10th Keynote and all was very good until the announcement that Elvis Costello was going to perform. This was by far the worst message Apple could send to their loyal followers. U2 to Elvis Costellothis is a very, very, very bad statement about Apple's committment to excellence. Elvis Costello...???...my 26 year old son said..."Dad never heard of him"




    You have nothing else to whine about so you claim Apple is doomed based on THE MUSICAL ACT THEY CHOSE?!

     
    As an avid Apple user since 1984

     

    Come off it.

  • Reply 45 of 66
    I agree, and since S is for speed, one might think the S upgrade would deal with additional speed.... oh wait, it was :) That is why I am a bit surprised wireless ac was not included. 

    In my opinion, S means Security, hence the Touch ID feature. But then again Apple never defines what those suffixes mean, so it is totally open to interpretations.

    But yeah, you're right, surprising that 802.11ac is not included with iPhone 5S. Probably something to do with the battery not being able to cope with it maybe. With the MacBook Air I think they got away with having larger batteries, but I'm sure incorporating larger batteries into the iPhone 5S will make the 5S larger than its predecessor. So they postponed that to iPhone 6, probably.
  • Reply 46 of 66

    The products and software were very, very impressive. Until......

     

    .....The selection and performance by Elvis Costello, was an AWFUL statement by Apple. Would of been much better to just end the podcast than to waste 5-10 minutes of an artist that even this ole fart did not like in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 2013.

     

    Bad, Very Bad decision by Apple

     

    The person that made this decision to have Elvis Costello perform at today's keynote should be trashed.

  • Reply 47 of 66
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    gwmac wrote: »
    I didn't watch the whole video (I skipped the parts about new Apple stores and others boring PR  bits) but did anyone else notice how subdued the audience was? Very little applause and it was not very enthusiastic. The Apple team on stage also just didn't appear to me at least to be that excited either. The tension and discomfort was almost palpable. Contrast that with the WWDC event and you will quickly see what I mean. 

    I really feel like Apple missed a great chance today. The prices needed to be at least $100 less on the 5C, and they also could have doubled the memory to 32/64/128. It was also a great chance to kill the 3.5" and old 30pin for good. Why not just offer a 8G version of the 5C for $100 less off contract or free on contract. That one stumped me. 

    Although some will disagree, until Apple releases a larger display or completely changes the case people will view these type of upgrades as very minor and nothing to get excited about. Fingerprint scanners and 64 bit just won't cut it. 

    People worried the 5C would cannibalize sales from the 5S but it looks like it is the other way around. Pay $100 more and get a much nicer phone with far more improvements. $549 off contact for the 5C seems far too expensive. I thought $449 to $499 was a little expensive but still cheap enough to really grow market share. 

    I have no doubts that both these phones will sell great and beat all previous models in sales numbers but will not help reduce the decline in global market share. It didn't offer a larger display or a cheaper price for the 5C so we have essentially the same line up as yesterday just in more colors.  I just can't help but feel very underwhelmed. While I was watching the video I also got this alert on my iPhone. 
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="31178" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/31178/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 525px">

    You are so full of it! Subdued audience? Did it not occur to you that this was a group of supposedly objective journalists packed into a claustrophobic space who have to resist all provocations to be enthusiastic if they want to maintain any credibility?

    No of course you didn't. You are not thinking about the human and professional context. You know what that means about you.
  • Reply 48 of 66
    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

    Did it not occur to you that this was a group of supposedly objective journalists packed into a claustrophobic space who have to resist all provocations to be enthusiastic if they want to maintain any credibility?

     

    Journalists don't give a frick about "64-bit" or "LTE". Not even the number of carriers supporting the iPhone worldwide. And when we're told that it takes two man hours to convert a 3D game from 32-bit to 64-bit, they don't have a clue what that means. 

     

    But the eyes of developers around the world were bugging out when that was said. Jaws dropped and heads shook in disbelief. That's why you always see better reactions at WWDC.

  • Reply 49 of 66
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
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  • Reply 50 of 66
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    antkm1 wrote: »
    the begining of the presentation was all about live streaming events, yet they didn't live stream this one?  Ironic, or just stupid?

    Neither. Smart. Since the crowd is almost all journalists, they have to be careful to edit the audience cutaways so that none of the supposedly hardboiled cynics gets caught looking stupidly enthusiastic.

    It is a much tighter room. There's no margin for directorial looseness.

    Edit: Or according to TS, there's no danger of enthusiasm, but I maintain there is still a danger of catching some writer looking stupid in a live broacast.
  • Reply 51 of 66

    48 comments and really, really surprised that no one has provided a direct link to this video, helping us that want to watch it full-screen in a larger viewing area rather than the tiny window it's presented in. Glad I checked this thread.

     

    http://bit.ly/1eC6P22

  • Reply 52 of 66
    Originally Posted by Digital_Guy View Post

    48 comments and really, really surprised that no one has provided a direct link to this video, helping us that want to watch it full-screen in a larger viewing area rather than the tiny window it's presented in. Glad I checked this thread.

     

    Now… why can't I download it? Only the reference file comes.

  • Reply 53 of 66

    I saved the ref. file as an icon to my desktop. You might check the Podcasts area in iTunes sometime soon.

    Oddly though, the Podcasts area mentions (or even showcases) it, but the video isn't actually available there.

     

     

  • Reply 54 of 66
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,799member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Journalists don't give a frick about "64-bit" or "LTE". Not even the number of carriers supporting the iPhone worldwide. And when we're told that it takes two man hours to convert a 3D game from 32-bit to 64-bit, they don't have a clue what that means. 

     

    But the eyes of developers around the world were bugging out when that was said. Jaws dropped and heads shook in disbelief. That's why you always see better reactions at WWDC.

     

    gwmac tends not to think of these things.


     

    So now you want to presume what I know or think? OK I can play that game too. Why does a guy that never bought or owned an iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, 4S, or 5 and will very likely not ever own an iPhone 5C or 5S either obsess about this product and presume to tell actual iPhone owners what they should or should not think. That is a far more entertaining question. Now shut up and go away troll. 

  • Reply 55 of 66
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
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    flaneur wrote: »
    Neither. Smart. Since the crowd is almost all journalists, they have to be careful to edit the audience cutaways so that none of the supposedly hardboiled cynics gets caught looking stupidly enthusiastic.

    It is a much tighter room. There's no margin for directorial looseness.

    Edit: Or according to TS, there's no danger of enthusiasm, but I maintain there is still a danger of catching some writer looking stupid in a live broacast.
    et they broadcast it on ATV a few hours later, un edited?
  • Reply 56 of 66

    The reason they do not stream it live is to make sure nothing goes public before the end. Remember the "Bill Gates Blue Screen of Death" situation? Or the recent Surface Tablet blue screen crash-> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2162027/Microsofts-Surface-tablet-crashes-stage--repeat-Bill-Gates-Windows-98-blue-screen-death-moment.html

     

    Why would Apple want to lose control of the presentation without editing it if something goes wrong, i.e., Power outage, Broadband disruption, Protesters in the crowd. Things as simple as this could hurt Apple shares and reputation. Videos go viral but blogs have to be read to know what happens.

  • Reply 57 of 66
    Originally Posted by 1967Mustang View Post

    The reason they do not stream it live is to make sure nothing goes public before the end.

     

    Except they've streamed multiple keynotes live in the past, going back to… what, didn't some people say the early naughties?

  • Reply 58 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Except they've streamed multiple keynotes live in the past, going back to… what, didn't some people say the early naughties?


     

    I am sorry, I can not remember any Keynote Event streamed live (Video) before. It has, in my recollection, always been a "Live Blog" - I could be wrong. If I were running Apple, I would not want video of "Mis-Haps" out there to be used against me (i.e. , Samsung, HTC Commercials) 

  • Reply 59 of 66
    Originally Posted by 1967Mustang View Post

    If I were running Apple, I would not want video of "Mis-Haps" out there to be used against me (i.e. , Samsung, HTC Commercials) 


     

    At the iPhone 4 keynote at WWDC that year, they edited the Wi-Fi troubles out of the final video put up on the Internet. It wasn't their fault that it happened, so that's certainly understandable.

  • Reply 60 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    At the iPhone 4 keynote at WWDC that year, they edited the Wi-Fi troubles out of the final video put up on the Internet. It wasn't their fault that it happened, so that's certainly understandable.


     

    You are right, WiFi was a bad example - But a system crash or locked screen would be my concern

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