Apple's iPhone 5c uses unique design, precision manufacturing to avoid 'plastic' stigma

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  • Reply 61 of 179
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,697member
    mazda 3s wrote: »
    I just want to know what idiot signed off on this:

    1000

    I'm tempted to suggest Roy Lichtenstein, but then again it could have been Stan Lee. :D
  • Reply 62 of 179
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I was thinking [yet again] about this much discussed phenomenon last night. It occurs to me the tech media and Wall Street pundits are like children that peak at the hidden Christmas presents before they are wrapped by their parents only to be disappointed and sad on Christmas Day because there are no surprises.

    Had nothing whatsoever been leaked in advance and dissected ad nauseam already, yesterday would have been full of squealing delight. Instead everyone hoped for 'One more thing' to be unwrapped to delight them. When it didn't appear they go their rooms and sulk and AAPL flails due to lack of excitement about 'a new and ground breaking technology that will disrupt a whole field of technology, cause a tectonic paradigm shift or allow granny to levitate.'

    In fact yesterday was full of amazing stuff. The innovative advances Apple continue to make in the camera technology would have been staggering alone to a sane audience. I keep looking at my shelf full of thousands of dollars worth of Canon bodies, lenses (any one of which costs as much as a MacBook) and tons of accessories ... I sigh looking at what Apple can do in an iPhone and I keep trying to justify my Canon gear (this is for a hobby only). It is starting to feel a little like my experience with an equally expensive HiFi system that long since got donated in favor of iTunes match and earbuds for the most part.

    As others here have said, Apple will have to come out with matter transfer and time travel to impress Wall Street and even then I'm sure they'd find something to bitch about.

    Stock now is down over $20 pre market. I guess I might be wrong about it coming back a bit before the market opens. The stock will get hammered today and for one reason: Wall Street wanted a cheap phone and didnt get it. And if Apple doesn't announce pre-order sales figures for the 5C (or they're not that great) the stock will tank even further.
  • Reply 63 of 179
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,697member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Stock now is down over $20 pre market. I guess I might be wrong about it coming back a bit before the market opens. The stock will get hammered today and for one reason: Wall Street wanted a cheap phone and didnt get it. And if Apple doesn't announce pre-order sales figures for the 5C (or they're not that great) the stock will tank even further.

    Agreed. And yet, had there been a cheap phone, Wall Street would have hammered AAPL because of lower margins going forward .... :no:
  • Reply 64 of 179
    rogifan wrote: »
    i took that to mean Apple isn't ashamed to do plastic because they think they know how to do it right.

    Please come off it. Plastic is plastic, I personally have never had a problem with it but many here ridiculed other manufacturers for still using it, and some have stood their ground and criticize the use of plastic by Apple. If you thought it was crappy before yesterday it should still be crappy today.
  • Reply 65 of 179
    This is very simple:
    5C - C stands for Children. In the US and Canada, most people are on 2-year contracts. So, 5C is half the price of 5S. Also, kids love colors and mistreat their gadgets. Getting them a corporate-looking 5S makes little sense.
    5S - Most adults will go for 5S. Adults care about a better camera, new fitness app capabilities of the hardware, fingerprint security, and once Apple opens up the fingerprint commerce API to 3rd-party developers, the potential of the 5S becoming a true electronic wallet.

    As for the Enterprise, there's now a clear differentiation between executive iPhones and worker bee iPhones. Workers (especially in the field) will be issued 5C. By the time enterprise security embraces the fingerprint sensor in leu of a password on the iPhone, the new generation of plastic iPhones will get the fingerprint sensor as well - it will be the 5S repackaged in the plastic shell and named 6C.
  • Reply 66 of 179

    This is Wall Street's Logic.....

     

    Apple launched a plastic iPhone with same price structure, they say it is not cheap enough.

    If Apple launched a cheaper plastic iPhone, they also say it is so cheap that will eat up profit margin.

     

    No matter what todo, Apple always gets wrong!

  • Reply 67 of 179
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Please come off it. Plastic is plastic, I personally have never had a problem with it but many here ridiculed other manufacturers for still using it, and some have stood their ground and criticize the use of plastic by Apple. If you thought it was crappy before yesterday it should still be crappy today.
    If plastic is plastic how come the Lumia design got great reviews while the Galaxy S3/4 didn't? I saw several hands on reviews of the 5C yesterday that basically said, "Samsung, this is how you do plastic". John Gruber in his initial impression said the 5C feels a lot better than the 3G/3GS did.
  • Reply 68 of 179
    iroh wrote: »
    Your mom's still plastic

    Go home Dad, you're drunk!
  • Reply 69 of 179
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Agreed. And yet, had there been a cheap phone, Wall Street would have hammered AAPL because of lower margins going forward .... :no:
    Apple can't win when Wall Street wants cheap products but high margins and huge profits.
  • Reply 70 of 179
    rogifan wrote: »
    All these people hating on plastic I guess forgot the 3G and 3GS were plastic. By all accounts the 5C has better build quality than either of those phones.

    No
  • Reply 71 of 179
    Sounds like what they do with lipstick - add some weight so it doesn't feel cheap. Wish Nintendo had done this with their new Wii U Touchscreen Controller.
  • Reply 72 of 179
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    blackbook wrote: »
    No
    No what?
  • Reply 73 of 179
    rogifan wrote: »
    If plastic is plastic how come the Lumia design got great reviews while the Galaxy S3/4 didn't? I saw several hands on reviews of the 5C yesterday that basically said, "Samsung, this is how you do plastic". John Gruber in his initial impression said the 5C feels a lot better than the 3G/3GS did.

    Because it's the design and not the actual plastic that's being done right.
  • Reply 74 of 179
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    Albeit it maybe technically true what you say (I wouldn't know as manufacturing isn't in my area of expertise), but I'd bet that when holding an iPhone 5C in your hand and examining it along side a mass produced plastic product using processes you mention, there will be a world of difference. Apple are justifiably proud of the quality of build and finish of all their products and sensibly use that in their marketing pieces.



    You can rant all you wish about the methodology being ... 'cheap', and 'in [sic] 40 years old' ... ''and done but [sic] just anyone in this business' ... however, the proof of the pudding lies in the eating, so can you explain why these others' products feel cheap and shoddy for the most part and Apple's always feel so damned gorgeous. I refuse to ever put a case on my iPhones as I love the feel of them and the look as they were born. By the way, I have not a scratch on my iPhone after two years of being in my pockets, car seat bin, beach bag and so on ... Now that's quality!

    It is not a "rant", it a knowledge that you do not posses. I have been in "plastic" business since 1974 so trust me in what I am saying. "Feel cheap" (see highlighted in red) is a relative term and what for you feels rich and luxurious for someone else might feel cheap and vice verse.  That is a main reason large consumer products companies conduct "focus group" meeting/session to determine what the end user perceive. I still have iPhone 3GS and no scratches even though I never had any cover on it. FYI: Polycarbonate is extremely good in scratch resistance and Apple is not the only one using it, so what good for the goose is good for the gander, right?. Or you going to argue that too.

  • Reply 75 of 179
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    [B]So much for ENVIROMENTALLY FRIENDLY. [/B]Don't see this being easily recycled. Well at least the landfills will be colorful.
  • Reply 76 of 179
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Connie View Post





    If you hate Apple so much, why are you on this website?

    But I don't hate Apple! :D I don't like a lot of the things they do, like not making a 5 inch screen or NFC, but hate them? No. I understand they are greedy, but... Greed is good! Greed is the engine of the capitalistic world! And they do make good hardware. My iPhone 4 is a great phone! Except I'm not a crazy Apple fan, or an AAPL shareholder! And I'm here because I like being here! :D

  • Reply 77 of 179
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post



    I just want to know what idiot signed off on this:






     


    What's wrong with that, "non"? 


    1) You'll be looking at the front most of the time, even when its on your desk, the back faces the desk


    2) Your hand covers that


    3) Nobody can see that when the phone is in your pocket


    4) Who cares, as long as it doesn't say "penis"


    5) If that bothers you, lose the case, use a sticker, its not released yet so you haven't bought one, buy a different case.

  • Reply 78 of 179

    Where I live, the media talk about a low-cost iPhone. So, it seems that Apple sent the right message.

     

    I'm following Apple news for a long time now. I remember how the first iMac, presented by S. Jobs, was dismissed because it did not have room for "floppy" (good adjective?) disks. In fact, even though with S. Jobs, many times people (Wall Street, fan, me....) were frustrated after an announcement because they (we) were expecting way too much.    

     

    Without all the rumours about the price of the 5c, a lot of people (me first) would have been less frustrated. But, as with S. Jobs, Apple is Apple. They don't do cheap products and they don't care much about what may think Wall Street (and that's the reason Wall Street hates Apple) . Good news indeed. 

     

    I won't rush to get one however. I'll wait until the December 3. In Canada, rules will change and be more favourable for consumers (possibility to end a 3-year contract after 2 years and other "goodies"). So, maybe a Christmas gift... 

  • Reply 79 of 179
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Connie View Post





    Just go away.

     

    When did TS have a sex change?

     

    I always suspected...

  • Reply 80 of 179
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post



    So much for ENVIROMENTALLY FRIENDLY. Don't see this being easily recycled. Well at least the landfills will be colorful.

     

    Plastics can be recycled, on your typical water bottle or any plastic product, look at its underside for the recycle mark, there is a number within the arrows, the number is the type of plastic used. Some plastics like plastic bags though, suck for recycling.

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