I read the comments here first. I thought there was no way anything ever made could be as bad as you made this sound. I watched it...
I want to know why you didn't warn me that it was far worse than you described it as. I think these are bad enough as to be actionable on the grounds that my life is actually worse now. I feel like the scene in princess bride when when the prince says he just took a year of your life away. WTF is going on at MS that it is even possible to make something that bad?
Not a great ad. Got nothing against them calling out the flaws with the iphone, it worked really well for Samsung but these ads were just rushed out.
Also AI I know you love Apple, this is an Apple site after all, but mentioning the fact Nokia have plastic phones to as if there equivalent phones to Apples plastic phone is just misleading your readers. The top plastic phone they make is the 820 which last time I saw it was on sale for about £200, the plastic iPhone is £460 both off contract prices.
With all the flowers being put there by saddened people at their Stores during that week I cannot think this is actually a possibility. On the other hand, MS keeps on surprising me, time and again.
I was thinking maybe they were advertising guys, not really in touch with the tech world (except as necessary to do what their clients ask).
I believe these commercials add nothing to Microsoft. They tell nothing about their products or services(as the Mac vs PC did). It might actually help Apple since Microsoft is not offering no real advantage over the iPhone-Mac-iCloud ecosystem and they might end up ridiculing themselves in the process.
Are you the only poster in this thread defending this video with "but but but lemmings!" And, "but but but all competitors attack each other!" arguments?
If you read my other posts you'd see that I find this video despicable.
I think the only problem here is that it's just not funny.
I enjoyed the Samsung ad with Galaxy owners showing the iPhone 5 queue the features they already had and I enjoyed "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" series. The principle is fine and we Apple lovers need to be able to laugh at ourselves...but the competition's ads do need to funny or it leaves them looking desperate.
As a general rule, Ash, depicting dead people in an attempt to sell phones makes you look like a disgusting human being.
And the fact that you don't recognise that says a lot about you.
What? Society depicts dead people all the time, especially leaders in society. Most money in the world has dead people printed on it. I'm sure we could find almost all the well-known presidents of the US in some cartoon from the last couple decades.
The video doesn't make fun of or disparage his death or his cancer. It uses him in the role that he played....the CEO of Apple.
You are also wrong about the video being used to sell phones. As many people have pointed out, Microsoft didn't say anything about their phones, they only disparaged Apple. Therefore, your comment about "depicting dead people in an attempt to sell phones" is completely irrelevant.
I think the only problem here is that it's just not funny.
I enjoyed the Samsung ad with Galaxy owners showing the iPhone 5 queue the features they already had and I enjoyed "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" series. The principle is fine and we Apple lovers need to be able to laugh at ourselves...but the competition's ads do need to funny or it leaves them looking desperate.
Exactly, the video is not funny, is poorly done, amateurish, and just plain stupid. I don't see why everyone has to bring in a discussion about the likeness of Steve Jobs. That's a stupid argument and it distracts from the real problem, which is that the videos are just shitty.
I currently use Bing as my default Search Engine - much nicer than Google...
I try Bing about once a year using a side-by-side comparison of search results. Bing has yet to give me the result I want, whereas Google does every time. I suppose Google may have an advantage from tracking me for a decade. Regardless of the reason, I go with the better result. For full disclosure, I dislike Google and Microsoft equally. (for unrelated reasons, I despise Facebook an order of magnitude more than both Google and MS combined).
Is it though? Really? Because it seems in an apples to apples comparison, they're working with what they got and ignoring what they don't. If you spend the time to put a 41 megapixel, 9 element, motion stabilized, f2.2 camera into a phone, you probably want to tout that. If you made a "unibody" polycarbonate phone in dayglow colors 3 years before apple announced one, you probably want to call that out too. Seems legit to me. Some times you gotta call a spade a spade. Lets just acknowledge that color themed UI based on the color of the phone was NOT done by Apple first.
I am sorry maybe I didn't watch the entire presentation. But where exactly did anyone at Apple tout colored options as being a first on mobile phones? Or for that matter that a 41 MP camera is something of an overkill on a cell phone considering the piddly size of that sensor? A lot of people tend to forget that those of us who have been only using iPhones are getting many of these 'improvements' for the first time. That I'd much rather have a bigger sensor ANY day over more megapixels, that a dedicated motion censor is something that actually makes sense to me as the main processor doesn't need to wake up that often, that even if the body of the 5c is made of plastic, a lot of thought has gone into it to make it NOT feel cheap at the same time. Yes, maybe the 5c isn't the most advanced phone on earth, but the 5s definitely improves on the 5 in many significant ways, some of which are definitely a first on mobile phones (64bit, dynamic font technology, iBeacons, motion effects built right into the OS, UI dynamics as part of the entire UI stack and available to 3rd party app developers).
Why is it that every announcement Apple makes is perceived as being a claim on its part of 'done by Apple first'? I think they make it very clear when something is an 'Apple first' (like colored options for iPhone 5c) or 'done by Apple first' (as in 64bit in mobile)...
Is it though? Really? Because it seems in an apples to apples comparison, they're working with what they got and ignoring what they don't. If you spend the time to put a 41 megapixel, 9 element, motion stabilized, f2.2 camera into a phone, you probably want to tout that. If you made a "unibody" polycarbonate phone in dayglow colors 3 years before apple announced one, you probably want to call that out too. Seems legit to me. Some times you gotta call a spade a spade. Lets just acknowledge that color themed UI based on the color of the phone was NOT done by Apple first.
Being an informed consumer means knowing what you're buying and why. For me, it's the software's ability to do icloud syncing for my address book with merging features for facebook, linked in, and gmail. It's the ability for me to send contact cards over text messages. The ability for me to reply to group messages and stay in a group message context. Having a stable UI that I dont have to worry about being attacked by malware (though my iphone 4 is not so stable anymore). Also, I like having a best of breed camera in my phone. For most of these things, microsoft meets, beats, or competes on Apple's level. It seems worthy of taking a few well aimed shots. Android and samsung, not so much. Those dudes are shamelessly copycatting Apple designs and features, but still miss every opportunity to fix the issues in android that cause it to be such a crappy platform.
All I'm saying is, be realistic. Don't just be a band wagon fan. You make the rest of us sound like tools.
With all you said, If Microsoft was so confident into their own product they should made ads about it instead of making ads about competition product.
Beside right now WP8 doesn't meet of beat anything.
WP8 is just the start of a snowball. It may grow bigger and faster as it goes. Apple is dominant now but what about in 10 years? Who knows.
That guy has a striking resemblance to Steve Jobs- much more than Tim. Pretty despicable ads. Microsoft always tends to somehow set the bar even lower.
Just confirms what Jobs said about Microsoft years ago: they have no taste.
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I want to know why you didn't warn me that it was far worse than you described it as. I think these are bad enough as to be actionable on the grounds that my life is actually worse now. I feel like the scene in princess bride when when the prince says he just took a year of your life away. WTF is going on at MS that it is even possible to make something that bad?
Also AI I know you love Apple, this is an Apple site after all, but mentioning the fact Nokia have plastic phones to as if there equivalent phones to Apples plastic phone is just misleading your readers. The top plastic phone they make is the 820 which last time I saw it was on sale for about £200, the plastic iPhone is £460 both off contract prices.
With all the flowers being put there by saddened people at their Stores during that week I cannot think this is actually a possibility. On the other hand, MS keeps on surprising me, time and again.
I was thinking maybe they were advertising guys, not really in touch with the tech world (except as necessary to do what their clients ask).
But but, didn't Microsoft already "bury the competition" way back with Windows Phone 7. The iPhone has been "dead" for years....
Stay Classy M$
I wonder if Microsoft will have a burial ceremony for Ballmer.
It's the least they can do for the guy.
Would this face okay that ad....?
And Apple adopted Bing in iOS 7. Talk about bite the hand that feeds you. Sad, amateurish, desperate and disrespectful.
Yep!
I currently use Bing as my default Search Engine - much nicer than Google...
If you read my other posts you'd see that I find this video despicable.
I think the only problem here is that it's just not funny.
I enjoyed the Samsung ad with Galaxy owners showing the iPhone 5 queue the features they already had and I enjoyed "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" series. The principle is fine and we Apple lovers need to be able to laugh at ourselves...but the competition's ads do need to funny or it leaves them looking desperate.
As a general rule, Ash, depicting dead people in an attempt to sell phones makes you look like a disgusting human being.
And the fact that you don't recognise that says a lot about you.
What? Society depicts dead people all the time, especially leaders in society. Most money in the world has dead people printed on it. I'm sure we could find almost all the well-known presidents of the US in some cartoon from the last couple decades.
The video doesn't make fun of or disparage his death or his cancer. It uses him in the role that he played....the CEO of Apple.
You are also wrong about the video being used to sell phones. As many people have pointed out, Microsoft didn't say anything about their phones, they only disparaged Apple. Therefore, your comment about "depicting dead people in an attempt to sell phones" is completely irrelevant.
Also, the word is "recognize," not "recognise."
I think the only problem here is that it's just not funny.
I enjoyed the Samsung ad with Galaxy owners showing the iPhone 5 queue the features they already had and I enjoyed "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" series. The principle is fine and we Apple lovers need to be able to laugh at ourselves...but the competition's ads do need to funny or it leaves them looking desperate.
Exactly, the video is not funny, is poorly done, amateurish, and just plain stupid. I don't see why everyone has to bring in a discussion about the likeness of Steve Jobs. That's a stupid argument and it distracts from the real problem, which is that the videos are just shitty.
Yep!
I currently use Bing as my default Search Engine - much nicer than Google...
I try Bing about once a year using a side-by-side comparison of search results. Bing has yet to give me the result I want, whereas Google does every time. I suppose Google may have an advantage from tracking me for a decade. Regardless of the reason, I go with the better result. For full disclosure, I dislike Google and Microsoft equally. (for unrelated reasons, I despise Facebook an order of magnitude more than both Google and MS combined).
Is it though? Really? Because it seems in an apples to apples comparison, they're working with what they got and ignoring what they don't. If you spend the time to put a 41 megapixel, 9 element, motion stabilized, f2.2 camera into a phone, you probably want to tout that. If you made a "unibody" polycarbonate phone in dayglow colors 3 years before apple announced one, you probably want to call that out too. Seems legit to me. Some times you gotta call a spade a spade. Lets just acknowledge that color themed UI based on the color of the phone was NOT done by Apple first.
I am sorry maybe I didn't watch the entire presentation. But where exactly did anyone at Apple tout colored options as being a first on mobile phones? Or for that matter that a 41 MP camera is something of an overkill on a cell phone considering the piddly size of that sensor? A lot of people tend to forget that those of us who have been only using iPhones are getting many of these 'improvements' for the first time. That I'd much rather have a bigger sensor ANY day over more megapixels, that a dedicated motion censor is something that actually makes sense to me as the main processor doesn't need to wake up that often, that even if the body of the 5c is made of plastic, a lot of thought has gone into it to make it NOT feel cheap at the same time. Yes, maybe the 5c isn't the most advanced phone on earth, but the 5s definitely improves on the 5 in many significant ways, some of which are definitely a first on mobile phones (64bit, dynamic font technology, iBeacons, motion effects built right into the OS, UI dynamics as part of the entire UI stack and available to 3rd party app developers).
Why is it that every announcement Apple makes is perceived as being a claim on its part of 'done by Apple first'? I think they make it very clear when something is an 'Apple first' (like colored options for iPhone 5c) or 'done by Apple first' (as in 64bit in mobile)...
Is it though? Really? Because it seems in an apples to apples comparison, they're working with what they got and ignoring what they don't. If you spend the time to put a 41 megapixel, 9 element, motion stabilized, f2.2 camera into a phone, you probably want to tout that. If you made a "unibody" polycarbonate phone in dayglow colors 3 years before apple announced one, you probably want to call that out too. Seems legit to me. Some times you gotta call a spade a spade. Lets just acknowledge that color themed UI based on the color of the phone was NOT done by Apple first.
Being an informed consumer means knowing what you're buying and why. For me, it's the software's ability to do icloud syncing for my address book with merging features for facebook, linked in, and gmail. It's the ability for me to send contact cards over text messages. The ability for me to reply to group messages and stay in a group message context. Having a stable UI that I dont have to worry about being attacked by malware (though my iphone 4 is not so stable anymore). Also, I like having a best of breed camera in my phone. For most of these things, microsoft meets, beats, or competes on Apple's level. It seems worthy of taking a few well aimed shots. Android and samsung, not so much. Those dudes are shamelessly copycatting Apple designs and features, but still miss every opportunity to fix the issues in android that cause it to be such a crappy platform.
All I'm saying is, be realistic. Don't just be a band wagon fan. You make the rest of us sound like tools.
With all you said, If Microsoft was so confident into their own product they should made ads about it instead of making ads about competition product.
Beside right now WP8 doesn't meet of beat anything.
WP8 is just the start of a snowball. It may grow bigger and faster as it goes. Apple is dominant now but what about in 10 years? Who knows.
If you read my other posts you'd see that I find this video despicable.
Fair enough!
I wonder if Microsoft will have a burial ceremony for Ballmer.
It's the least they can do for the guy.
It's called a "retirement." Ballmer gets to save face as he's shown the door.
Stop doing that Ballmer or you'll go bald. -er.
Just confirms what Jobs said about Microsoft years ago: they have no taste.