Inside Apple's iPhone 5s: 's' is for 'sensors'

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  • Reply 81 of 130
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Debreeze39 View Post



    Tim Cook is moving Appple in a world wide & technological era for the future all this under the hood of a smartphone there has to be a bigger iPhone in the works for next year.

     

    ...and NFC, a 17" MacBook Pro and a Mac Pro full of expansion slots. Because it has always been Tim Cook's mission to do whatever the vocal minority wants. /s

  • Reply 82 of 130
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    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post



    Knowing Apple, no.

    Can you explain?

     

    My guess would be the opposite. I'd wager that they'll make it entirely optional, as they do with the passcode. If they end up making the very feature optional, why won't they allow a user-choosable length for the fingerprint data to be wiped?

  • Reply 83 of 130
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    But neither of those statements are right, as evidenced by the last five years.

    It's OK that you don't understand everything. And you're certainly wrong about the iPhone make a decent game controller. You best assume at this point I'm a total idiot so you won't have to reply to me so we can both not bring this argument forth because I hate wasting energy.
  • Reply 84 of 130
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    That's why I know for a fact the idiots who want a 5/6" iPhone are wrong.

    What kind of a point are you trying to make? Who wants a 6" iPhone? No one. A 4.6" iPhone is a different matter. And a 5" iPhone at the largest size. You think the iPhone will stay at 4" only for the next 3 years? We'll see. Would you like to make a wager on that? Next year when the iPhone 6 is out the 4S will be gone. The 6 will push things further in the design department; it should be an exciting release. Don't be surprised if this iPhone 6 is additionally released in 2 screen sizes. A 4" and 4.(something). Both sizes serve a purpose, and a slightly larger IPHONE!!! will have a handsome sized market out there. History will be the judge of these things, so we'll see.
  • Reply 85 of 130
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    philboogie wrote: »
    Not for the better; I liked the 3.5" more. This 4" is cool for what it is, but the phone got taller and is now sometimes difficult to get out of my jeans pocker. 'No biggie, but don't let it become bigger.'

    If it gets a larger screen it will be in addition to the current size. In addition.
  • Reply 86 of 130
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    Originally Posted by AnalogJack View Post

     

     

    I have a feeling that Apple will never release a larger iPhone because the current size is perfect for a phone. The whole phablet business merely  wastes resources on unnecessary line up complications. Which is you recall is the first thing that SJ did when upon resuming the reins of Apple, namely he cut out all the unnecessary crap in between and bits and pieces products. Which is why Samsung cannot compete and Apple will accelerate into the distance. 


     

    Here's an easy way to "make a larger iPhone display" right now. Takes only a second, try it:

    1. Take any iPhone

    2. Hold it closer to your face

     

    That's what it looks like to have a bigger iPhone. If Apple doesn't add more pixels, but simply makes the pixels bigger so the display surface is stretched out, that's what it will look like. Same thing, bigger pixels.

     

    To me, that's not compelling. It's not innovation. It's not even a meaningful UX improvement unless I had poor uncorrected eyesight. And it comes with tradeoffs: portability is reduced. Single handed use will be harder for some. Weight and/or battery life is impacted. For what? Stretching the screen?

  • Reply 87 of 130
    Originally Posted by Sol77 View Post

    Right, because THAT is the conclusion to be drawn about iphone games over the last five years...the controller interface is superior.

     

    Thanks for pretending that's what I said or even implied. Try again, please.

     

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

    And you're certainly wrong about the iPhone make a decent game controller.

     

    Guess so, given the sales, reviews, and scope of gaming on iOS over the past few years, huh. It's obviously "terrible". Or maybe… you're wrong.

     

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

    What kind of a point are you trying to make? Who wants a 6" iPhone? No one.

     

    But a 6" Android phone, hoo boy!

     

    History will be the judge of these things, so we'll see. 


     

    History shows that Apple doesn't give people what they think they want.

  • Reply 88 of 130
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    Here's an easy way to "make a larger iPhone display" right now. Takes only a second, try it:
    1. Take any iPhone
    2. Hold it closer to your face

    That's what it looks like to have a bigger iPhone. If Apple doesn't add more pixels, but simply makes the pixels bigger so the display surface is stretched out, that's what it will look like. Same thing, bigger pixels.

    To me, that's not compelling. It's not innovation. It's not even a meaningful UX improvement unless I had poor uncorrected eyesight.

    Everything doesn't have to be about innovation. Innovation, innovation, innovation; the most overused word of this decade so far. I've a new word for you: choice! Colours aren't innovative, but they are additional choices, additional options for the iPhone user, and potential iPhone users. A larger screened iPhone would be about exactly that. And yes, everyone with bad eyesight could get one. Close your eyes and open your mind. Read: iPad.
  • Reply 89 of 130
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

    Personally I don't understand all the bull excitement going on about security and the Touch ID feature. Don't people get it? There is NO security when you get right down to it. If someone wants into your phone they can do it. The question is why would they want to get into YOUR phone. The passcode and fingerprint scanner keeps the casual thief at bay. For the most part the casual thief wants to fence your phone for some quick cash. They don't care about your photos. And just like when you get your wallet or purse stolen, the first thing you do is cancel your credit cards, change all your passwords, etc.

     

    The fudsters are hard at it lambasting Apple for the Touch ID and the "useless" 64 bit processor.




     


    Has anyone actually posted an article or white paper on how to defeat Touch ID? Or is it just FUD predictions coming from the tech media?

  • Reply 90 of 130
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post





    Everything doesn't have to be about innovation. Innovation, innovation, innovation; the most overused word of this decade so far. I've a new word for you: choice! Colours aren't innovative, but they are additional choices, additional options for the iPhone user, and potential iPhone users. A larger screened iPhone would be about exactly that. And yes, everyone with bad eyesight could get one. Close your eyes and open your mind. Read: iPad.

     

    Yes, I believe the correct definition of innovation is:

     

    in•no•va•tion

    noun. Whatever Apple, Inc. is not doing at the moment, especially if their competitors are doing it. Used in polemics against Apple, Inc.

  • Reply 91 of 130
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Thanks for pretending that's what I said or even implied. Try again, please.


     

    If that wasn't your implication, then I'm finding it pretty hard to distinguish any relevant point in what you said.

     

    Original point: An iPhone would make an awful Apple TV game controller, just as is makes an awful remote compared to a dedicated one. There's no substitute for a dedicated game controller with physical buttons. None at all.

     

    What you said: But neither of those statements are right, as evidenced by the last five years.

     

     

    So you are saying that the past five years are evidence that:

    1. Remote.app on an iPhone or iPad isn't an awful remote compared to a dedicated one.

    2. That there is a substitute for a dedicated game controller with physical buttons, and it's a touchscreen like on the iPad or iPhone

     

    i can't see any other way your post could be construed, it directly runs on.

     

     

    Aside from the fact that a number of people here seem to think that those points are hogwash, please explain how there isn't a direct implication in those statements that you think the touchscreen interface is superior, or (if you're being bloody-minded) at least adequate?

     

     

    So that is what you were saying, and is what you were implying, and no trying again is required?

  • Reply 92 of 130
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    If that wasn't your implication, then I'm finding it pretty hard to distinguish any relevant point in what you said.


     

    Not if the world isn't black and white. Which is the case, by the way.

     

    "'iPhone is terrible' is wrong" ???????????? "iPhone is the best possible solution".

     

    A bit of critical thinking, please.

     

    Remote is pretty darn great, by the way. Faster than the Apple Remote, at least.

  • Reply 93 of 130
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    I disagree. And if you replied with less of the attitude then maybe your meaning would be clearer.

    In any case remote.app being "great" bears little relation to whether a mobile iOS devices would make a good game controller, where hand eye coordination at speed is important. No evidence from the past five years offers anything there, unless you count AirPlaying a game to an AppleTV, which is not a pleasant experience.
  • Reply 94 of 130
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

    ALL security measures are useless in the face of a DFU; Apple should work on that instead of arbitrarily deleting fingerprint information.


     

    Actually, placing an iPhone in DFU mode and then restoring it in iTunes does in face restore the device, but if Find My iPhone was turned on at the time the phone was placed in DFU mode, the setup process will require the password for that iCloud account before the phone can be completely set up and usable.

     

    I tested this out the other day thinking that DFU mode would make all of this useless and I was pleasantly surprised. 

     

    I should try restoring it once again after the first DFU/restore and see if it still remembers the device needs the iCloud password.

  • Reply 95 of 130
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    I disagree.

     

    That's fine, then.

     
    In any case remote.app being "great" bears little relation to whether a mobile iOS devices would make a good game controller…

     

    That's fine, too, as it has nothing to do with that topic nor did I imply it did. You mentioned it, I responded. That's all.

  • Reply 96 of 130
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    That's fine, too, as it has nothing to do with that topic nor did I imply it did. You mentioned it, I responded. That's all.


     

    Are you nuts?  It has everything to do with the topic, since the original post that you disagreed with said:

     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

     

    An iPhone would make an awful Apple TV game controller, just as is makes an awful remote compared to a dedicated one.


     

    I know you have a convenient selective memory, but damn that's a hell of a selection.

  • Reply 97 of 130
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    It has everything to do with the topic




    You probably shouldn't have said it that it didn't, then, huh.

     
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    In any case remote.app being "great" bears little relation to whether a mobile iOS devices would make a good game controller…


     

    I'm not playing this game. You can read, assumedly, and the posts are right there.

  • Reply 98 of 130
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member

    "Little relation", because the use case of hand eye coordination for playing a game is different from navigating a list of media on a companion screen.  That doesn't mean they're unrelated, it doesn't mean that it wasn't a crucial element of the entire conversation, and it certainly doesn't mean that I brought it up and that you merely responded to me.  That last one is a flat out lie. 

     

    I love how this is my game, when you're the one who routinely makes stuff up, and never ever address the falsehoods that you spit out.

  • Reply 99 of 130
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    "Little relation", because the use case of hand eye coordination for playing a game is different from navigating a list of media on a companion screen.

     

    Which is true, of course, but reads completely differently. Here's where I mention attitude and clarity.

     

    That doesn't mean they're unrelated, it doesn't mean that it wasn't a crucial element of the entire conversation…


     

    Right, which is why I didn't try to tie it in with that. It was an afterthought to which I wanted to respond.

  • Reply 100 of 130
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Which is true, of course, but reads completely differently. Here's where I mention attitude and clarity.


     

    "Reads completely differently."  Really?  Do you really, you want to go down that path?

     

    My post which originally mentioned "little relation", just a half dozen posts up from this one:

     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post



    In any case remote.app being "great" bears little relation to whether a mobile iOS devices would make a good game controller, where hand eye coordination at speed is important. 


     

    Are you seriously suggesting there's a clarity issue between the "little relation" and the use case of hand-eye coordination?

     

     If you'd just every once in a while admit that you typed too hastily and made a mistake that'd be fine.  But no.  You're an impossible moron. 

     

    I'm done with you for tonight.

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