In last company meeting, Ballmer calls Apple 'fashionable,' says Microsoft about 'doing more'



  • Reply 81 of 147

    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

    "Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," while Amazon is about being "cheap," and Google is about "knowing more." Microsoft, Ballmer said, is about "doing more." "

    So he's saying Microsoft stands for "being unfashionable, expensive* and knowing less"

    Good heavens, I never thought I'd agree with Monkey Boy!

    *The 'expensive' isn't about the cheap crappy PCs but the enormous waste of time and money keeping the crap running.


    to add to this MS is about working harder not smarter too, ie doing more

  • Reply 82 of 147
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,462member
    Thanks for asking.

    Assuming the *quote* is correct, he didn't say Microsoft was doing more. He said Microsoft was "about doing more". Likewise, he didn't say Google knew more (do you really think he would concede that?); he said they were "about knowing more".

    Think about his metaphors:

    Apple = fashionable
    Amazon = cheap
    Google = about knowing more
    Microsoft = about doing more

    A different way of wording it:

    Apple = design-driven 
    Amazon = price-driven 
    Google = aggregating information (search, book-scanning, ...)
    Microsoft = providing productivity (Office, CRM, SQL Server, ...)

    Is that really a wrong way of differentiating the business models of the Four Horsemen? Of course people here are incapable and in fact unwilling to see it that way. They prefer to mock his appearance instead. After the guffaws, how intelligent and insightful does one really feel?

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
  • Reply 83 of 147
    Microsoft is about doing more...
    more maintenance...
    more troubleshooting...
    more rebooting...
    more pulling your hair out...
    more throwing chairs...
  • Reply 84 of 147
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    jakesun wrote: »
    Too bad he is leaving; with the new CEO, Apple may face real competition..

    Maybe, but unlikely to be serious enough to have a large impact.

    The entire company culture is wrong. It takes an enormous shock or a very strong leader to make the level of cultural change that is needed. I just don't see the board as being open to that much change.

    I would expect that the new CEO will appear to be different on the surface, but I don't think there will be fundamental changes. It seems that the Board's perception is that the problem is with implementation, not with the fundamental strategy. Until they understand the difference, they'll continue to flounder.
  • Reply 85 of 147

    Originally Posted by starbird73 View Post



    Focus on Microsoft, their strengths, and what they can do. No need to call out the 2-3 companies kicking your ass. It (1) proves that they are beating you, otherwise you wouldn't call them out, and (2) shows you fear them and have no other defensive move, such as --> stating what makes you different and the best choice.


    Same thing for the most recent Windows Phone commercial. The LONE couple, all the way in the back, in folding chairs, while dozens of iOS and Android users duke it out, standing in front of you. You barely show your product, but do show a ton of iPhone 5s and Galaxy phones.


    Their Windows Phone commercial was very funny and very well made. Of course, MS didn't make the commercial -- they hired out an ad company to design, shoot and write the commercial -- a company with talented and creative people who had a good sense of humor -- in contrast to MS. 

  • Reply 86 of 147

    Originally Posted by WelshDog View Post


    Ballmer is so juvenile - he always been.  It's like he's in high school at a pep rally for the big game with the cross town rival.  Or even better, he's a lame rapper who can't put two words together, yet he constantly boasts how his rhymes are better than all the other MCs.


    Dear Steve B:  The rest of us out here are adults.  Why can't you be one too?


    Ballmer is the Kanye West of the computer industry.

  • Reply 87 of 147
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,526member
    quadra 610 wrote: »
    What is MS doing, exactly?

    whistling past the graveyard
  • Reply 88 of 147
    dsddsd Posts: 184member

    Nothing says 'doing more' like kickstand.

  • Reply 89 of 147

    Ballmer is an ass hat. nothing he has ever said has been based in any form of reality.

  • Reply 90 of 147
    Originally Posted by kent909 View Post

    It's still his job. What else should he say?


    He should've said "**** you all and have a nice day!" Then after that put on a cowboy hat and gallop off the stage with a stick horse. THAT would've still been smarter than everything he just said.

  • Reply 91 of 147

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

    That future will be as a devices and services company, a path solidified recently by Microsoft's $7.2 billion acquisition of Nokia's cell phone business, as well as the revelation of new Surface tablet units this week.


    What a joke.  Ballmer would never have followed that path if he were still alive.

  • Reply 92 of 147
    Unbelievable, all right.
  • Reply 93 of 147
    SMDH! This just goes to show you how shallow this a** clown is.
    MS investors are perplexed. Why? Ballmer calls Apple fashionable while the new crop of iPhones just sold 9 million in 3 days.
    That ain't fashion. That's kicking yo a**!
  • Reply 94 of 147
    Man, if you think Apple products are popular because they are fashionable, you shouldn't be in charge of a big business.
  • Reply 95 of 147

    doing more... how about "quality over quantity?" If you look at the amount spent on R&D between Apple and MSFT, somebody may honor us with the number but I believe apple was about 2billion/year and msft much much more... now looking at the major results, MSFT beyond managing to copy Mac OS and the original Word Express and whatever spreadsheet software was ruling in the 80's (maybe Lotus) to build it into their Windoze  + Office empire, not much innovative ground-breaking rev-generating things came out of "doing more"..


    and although Ballmer may belittle Apple's fashionableness, he shouldn't forget that Windows was , too , fashionable in the 90s and early 2000, and in 95' ppl actually lined up to buy windows 95!! how tides have turned.

  • Reply 96 of 147
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,232moderator
    In what will likely be his final appearance at Microsoft's companywide meeting as chief executive, Ballmer took the stage with his typical bombast

    :lol: Why wasn't this expanded on:

    "The CEO who gave us the Monkey Boy dance is reported to have jumped about the stage to Michael Jackson’s Wanna be startin’ somethin’ – the song he played at that fateful 1983 meeting – while screaming “the sound of Microsoft!”

    Reports talk of tears streaming down Steve's face as he gave his final speech.

    Ballmer closed on (I’ve had) the time of my life from Dirty Dancing, continuing to dance and run around the stage. Employees were shaking hands with Ballmer and screaming “we love you” through the routine, we're so reliably informed."

    Someone get the video!
  • Reply 97 of 147
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 2,516member

    "Doing more," is for sure!

    Virus scans, disk defrags, annual clean re-installs, high upgrade fees, weird products (hello, RT), axed products, endless configuration.

    What more could customers want?

  • Reply 98 of 147

    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

    image Why wasn't this expanded on:



    The byline is my favorite: "Nobody puts Ballmer in a corner."


    OK, they actually said "outgoing Steve", but still.  Gold.

  • Reply 99 of 147
    snovasnova Posts: 1,281member
    Steve Jobs got it right. Microsoft does not have to fail in order for Apple to succeed. Ballmer should realize that the same is true about how to make Microsoft succeed. Bashing competitors is not going to make you succeed on any significant level. Microsoft's problem is Microsoft, it not about doing more. It's about doing something completely different and new.
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