Apple releases OS X 10.9 Mavericks Golden Master to developers

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  • Reply 41 of 84
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by akqies View Post





    There is an argument as to why it would be a sound business decision for it to be free (or even cheaper) but neither you or I have access to that info to really know if that has come to pass.

     

    I have access to more than nothing though. I have the information at hand and my instincts. Though not always right it is important to listen to them.

  • Reply 42 of 84
    Do I have to do a clean install? It is not showing up in the App Store updates, but I have an new iPhoto seed, and had 2 identical MBA updates yesterday.
  • Reply 43 of 84
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tmcavoy2 View Post



    Do I have to do a clean install? It is not showing up in the App Store updates, but I have an new iPhoto seed, and had 2 identical MBA updates yesterday.

     

    Are you a Mac developer? If so I believe it shows up in purchases or smtn - not updates on this occasion.

  • Reply 44 of 84

    I am. Never had a problem before, maybe they are just testing my patience.

  • Reply 45 of 84
    akqiesakqies Posts: 768member
    ireland wrote: »
    I have access to more than nothing though. I have the information at hand and my instincts. Though not always right it is important to listen to them.

    Sure, but there is a difference between saying what a company should do and what you think might be a good move and something they may finally do. I've made the mention of how it would benefit Apple and users if they made OS X free but I won't repost them since imt1 posted them above, but will include that getting more users not the same OS lowers Apple's support costs and 3rd-party developer costs. imt1 points out how it makes sense, but does not say Apple should do this or that Apple will do this. It's a plausible scenario for many reasons but it doesn't help your position to post it as fact.
  • Reply 46 of 84
    MV (or who else can answer): What is TPB?
    Thanks.
  • Reply 47 of 84
    PleaZe ignore my previous post. Googled it! ThankZ for bringing it to my attention though MV! ;)
  • Reply 48 of 84
    shogunshogun Posts: 362member
    macvertigo wrote: »
    It doesn't come up on updates.. and if you're a non-developer looking for a copy it's already up on TPB.

    Great idea. Use a pirated copy of an Operating System. Lol.
  • Reply 49 of 84
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

     

    Looking forward to 10.9.3. It's usually the most stable release.


     

    Aside from one kernel panic around DP2, this has been a rock-solid beta on both the machines I've been testing it on, and I've been using it exclusively for months. I think folks are going to be pleased with Mavericks.

  • Reply 50 of 84
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tmcavoy2 View Post



    Do I have to do a clean install? It is not showing up in the App Store updates, but I have an new iPhoto seed, and had 2 identical MBA updates yesterday.

     

    Log in to the portal and check for a redemption code.

  • Reply 51 of 84
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    Originally Posted by djames4242 View Post

     

     

    Log in to the portal and check for a redemption code.


     

    Also, FWIW, I didn't see the GM downloading in the App Store after redeeming the new code. I had to quit App Store, and then after relaunching it I saw it show up under Purchases as downloading (and yes, it's a 5.29gb file).

     

    Now then, when is the Server.app GM going to be released? ;-)

     


    EDIT: According to the forums, you don't need to quit and relaunch App Store. Apparently you can CMD-R on the purchases tab. Who knew???

  • Reply 52 of 84

    I just hope there are no WiFi connection issues this time around.

  • Reply 53 of 84
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member

    Originally Posted by aelegg View Post

     

    I don't think I can expect Mavericks to run on our late-2008 MacBook, bought very-early 09.

    You know, the MacBook with the Aluminum Unibody that wasn't a "Pro", and didn't have sD card reader? 

    [...]

    It is Unibody but has easy HD/battery access through a panel.  500 GB HD for $150 when we did it, and when we doubled RAM to 4GB it was.....$27 from Crucial.

     


     

    That's the one I have.  Late 2008, 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo, first-gen aluminum unibody.

    It's a MacBook Pro, the last one to have a removable battery.

    It had a long-standing power management issue ever since Snow Leopard, fixed in Mavericks.

     

    I expected Mavericks to run poorly on it, since it's near the trailing edge of supported hardware.

    But Mavericks makes it feel much faster, both in rendering speed and in virtual memory disk swapping.

    ML felt like Apple had abandoned older hardware, but Mavericks gives my old MBP one more year of life.

    (My mid-2007 iMac runs Mavericks just fine too.)

  • Reply 54 of 84
    As great as Mavericks will be, I'm already looking forward to 10.10 or X.X or X2 or Sea Goat or whatever it'll be called!

    It's time for OS X to get the iOS 7-style complete user interface overhaul. This doesn't mean it should look like iOS 7, though I am envisaging a flatter, more fluid and futuristic look that will complement retina-class displays across the entire lineup. Edit: I really love the translucent, white frosted glass backgrounds in iOS 7. I really hope they use these as the basis for backgrounds in OS XI.

    Ever since 10.0 OS X's UI has been in a constant state of flux and consistency has oftentimes been lacking. Changes to the UI have tended to be iterative and though 10.9 looks fairly different to 10.0 it's starting to feel dated in the way iOS 6 did.

    I'm sure they're working on it as we speak!
  • Reply 55 of 84
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by s.metcalf View Post

    As great as Mavericks will be, I'm already looking forward to 10.10 or X.X or X2 or Sea Goat or whatever it'll be called!

     

    OS XI.

     

    It's time for OS X to get the iOS 7-style complete user interface overhaul.


     

    I’d prefer a complete UX overhaul. UI’s easy. 

     

    Multitouch for the desktop.

  • Reply 56 of 84

    Does the Maverick Golden Master include support for TB2?

  • Reply 57 of 84
    akqiesakqies Posts: 768member
    Does the Maverick Golden Master include support for TB2?

    It has to since we know the Mac Pro will include TB2.
  • Reply 58 of 84
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by akqies View Post

    It has to since we know the Mac Pro will include TB2.

     

    Not really. The Mac Pro can easily get a custom build of the OS.

  • Reply 59 of 84
    ascii wrote: »
    I don't think they're rushing it, the previous builds have been quite stable. But I agree those Macs will probably be out soon.

    My hope is that the new MBP will have Thunderbolt 2 ports, and so will work with the 4K Cinema Display that will come out with the new Mac Pro.
    Almost garanteed, the Mac book pros right now are trying to be a hardware above a IMac, but obviosly well below a Mac Pro, the MacBook Airs are trying to be above a Mac mini but smaller than others
    ireland wrote: »
    <div class="quote-container">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>RogueDogRandy</strong> <a href="/t/159925/apple-releases-os-x-10-9-mavericks-golden-master-to-developers#post_2411216"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <p>it will be $20 as usual.</p><p>That's all I have to say about that...</p></div></div><p> </p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">?Considering practically each new release is priced less-and-less as time goes on I don't quite see where you are pulling that "as usual" $20 figure from with a foolish confidence.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">Leopard was $129</span></p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">Snow Leopard was $29</span></p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">Lion was $29</span></p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">Mountain Lion was $20</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="line-height:1.4em">It's safe to say given that they have now moved to a yearly </span>release<span style="line-height:1.4em"> cycle for OS X versions and for the first time in </span>living<span style="line-height:1.4em"> </span>memory<span style="line-height:1.4em"> have yet to </span>announce<span style="line-height:1.4em"> a price, they may have a new way of doing things in the </span>works. And then considering most of the new additions in Mavericks are under the hood it's probable to gestimate that Mavericks could be free.</p><p> </p><p>That, my friend, is called reason.</p>
    $10 my estimate, remember IOS started at $5(for iPods) $20 is something that Microsoft already hates however (unfortunately for them no one wants windows 8).
    If ever there was a time to do this.  Now, with a 75 million+ installed base, is the time to do it.

    Especially as they jacked the entry price of the entry iMac to £1145 inc vat?  (and it has integrated crappics at that.  No DVD player as well.  Cheeky beggars...)

    Lemon Bon Bon.
    Dvd player should still be in Mac Pro, Mac mini (if they drop $50 for it that would be ok), IMac (rather than thinning the edges add the DVD back in so it is that thin.
    focher wrote: »
    It also said 5.29 GB to me. However, at about 1.1 GB it "finished" downloading and kicked off the installer. I suspect that the App Store saw that I was already on DP 8 and did just download the differential needed.
    or like IOS it says more than is, do to needed memory.
  • Reply 60 of 84
    akqiesakqies Posts: 768member
    Not really. The Mac Pro can easily get a custom build of the OS.

    You say "not really" then back up my point by saying it would be in the OS. There is no way around it. If the Mac Pro will have TB2 then OS X on the Mac Pro will support TB2, unless you're saying Apple would add the HW but then offer no drivers or higher-level SW support. Does that sounds like something Apple will do? I don't think so. I expect the next MacBook Pros to also support TB2 which would explain their delay.
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