Former iOS chief Scott Forstall may testify in upcoming Apple v. Samsung retrial

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  • Reply 21 of 47
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    I just don't understand why they had to let him go.

    They could have still took iOS in the direction they wanted to with him on board and Tim could've just been the referee between him and Ive.

    I believe he is a force in this industry and he could have still contributed I a big way to apple products.

    I think this is the biggest mistake apple made since jobs passing.

    1) He certainly did outstanding work, not just looking at the '163 patent but many others as well.

    2) Thanks Mikey for signing the article. The scribd link is very useful.
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  • Reply 22 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I just don't understand why they had to let him go.

    They could have still took iOS in the direction they wanted to with him on board and Tim could've just been the referee between him and Ive.

    I believe he is a force in this industry and he could have still contributed I a big way to apple products.

    I think this is the biggest mistake apple made since jobs passing.

    My guess is it was either Scott goes or more than one of the other SVPs were threatening to leave. John Gruber claimed that even Phil Schiller didnt get along with Scott. So Tim might have been faced with either Scott goes or Bob and Jony leave. Or Bob, Jony and Phil leave. I don't have any inside knowledge, I'm just speculating.

    Also, I get the feeling Scott was incredibly loyal to Steve. In many ways I think he was Steve's protégé. Perhaps Tim and the rest of the executive team felt it was time to move forward and Scott had difficulty doing that? Some of the rumors last year claimed he would often knock things down, saying its not what Steve would have wanted. Perhaps he had more difficulty dealing with the loss of Steve than the others did?
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  • Reply 23 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    jd_in_sb wrote: »
    I predict Scott Forstall will be hired as the VP of Software for Windows Phone & Surface.
    And where would Joe Belfiore go?
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  • Reply 24 of 47
    Scott may still be on Apple's payroll. I thought he was sticking around, but not actually given any responsibilities. It would be smart - keep Forstall unavailable to other companies for a year or so to prevent any leaks about upcoming projects from getting out. I'm not sued what that would cost Apple, but even a couple million might be worth it.
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  • Reply 25 of 47
    Exactly, what Apple person would ever do that .... oh wait a minute, who woz that .... ?

    Woz quit. Steve Jobs quit. Forstall was fired. Who hates Apple more: those who chose to leave or those who were asked to leave?

    Think, people.
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  • Reply 26 of 47
    Steve was the one with the pension for Skeumorphism. Scott just took it too far.

    I know. It just sounded funny to say. Don't take it personally, unless you're Scott Forstall. And for the record, skeumorphism doesn't bother me.
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  • Reply 27 of 47
    jd_in_sb wrote: »
    I predict Scott Forstall will be hired as the VP of Software for Windows Phone & Surface.

    I wish everyone would stop assuming he hates Apple, without proof.

    Your statement makes as much sense as saying Steve Ballmer, who is being forced out of his Microsoft CEO job, will soon be hired as CEO of Apple.
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  • Reply 28 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Scott may still be on Apple's payroll. I thought he was sticking around, but not actually given any responsibilities. It would be smart - keep Forstall unavailable to other companies for a year or so to prevent any leaks about upcoming projects from getting out. I'm not sued what that would cost Apple, but even a couple million might be worth it.
    But do you think Forstall would sign off on something like that? I can't imagine he'd want a paycheck for doing nothing. In Cook's internal email to employees he said Forstall would be leaving "next year", he never gave a specific date.
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  • Reply 29 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I wish everyone would stop assuming he hates Apple, without proof.

    Your statement makes as much sense as saying Steve Ballmer, who is being forced out of his Microsoft CEO job, will soon be hired as CEO of Apple.
    We have no way of knowing what Forstall's feelings are about Apple right now. But things must have been pretty bad there towards the end. Apple's official press release didn't thank Forstall for anything and Cook's internal employee memo devoted one sentence to thanking him. Also I'm assuming Apple's decision to give the media access to Federighi and Ive together was deliberate (as is their intense focus on "collaboration"). A message is being sent without mentioning Forstall's name. I'll be curious to hear his side of the story, if he ever decides to tell it.
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  • Reply 30 of 47
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    We have no way of knowing what Forstall's feelings are about Apple right now. But things must have been pretty bad there towards the end. 

     

    We have no way of knowing if the US government is hiding UFOs. But they're hiding something at Area 51. Let's jump to the conclusion that they're hiding crashed UFOs at Area 51.

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  • Reply 31 of 47
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post





    I wish everyone would stop assuming he hates Apple, without proof.



    Your statement makes as much sense as saying Steve Ballmer, who is being forced out of his Microsoft CEO job, will soon be hired as CEO of Apple.

    Who said Scott hates Apple? The guy is unemployed and is a talented developer of world-class operating systems for high-end smartphones. I could see Bill & Co. making him a very lucrative offer.

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  • Reply 32 of 47
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    And where would Joe Belfiore go?

    Great question.

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  • Reply 33 of 47

    Scott probably works for samsung.

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  • Reply 34 of 47

    Here's hoping Forstall will have a chance to reinvent himself and accomplish the next great thing in his technology career.

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  • Reply 35 of 47
    rhyde wrote: »
    In the State of California, you have to have their last check in their hands when you show them the door.

    I was employing understatement in my use of the term paycheck.
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  • Reply 36 of 47
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member

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  • Reply 37 of 47
    Good. Windows needs more wood grain and green felt.

    Haha! And a "Cards" app.
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  • Reply 38 of 47

    plz god no

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  • Reply 39 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    jd_in_sb wrote: »
    Great question.
    I don't think Microsoft's problem is a lack of talented engineers. And I'm not aware of Joe Belfiore (or Terry Myerson's) job being in jeopardy.
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  • Reply 40 of 47
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    We have no way of knowing if the US government is hiding UFOs. But they're hiding something at Area 51. Let's jump to the conclusion that they're hiding crashed UFOs at Area 51.
    If things weren't bad Scott would still be with Apple, no? Unless he voluntarily chose to leave. But no one has ever suggested that was the case.
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