This whole "device space" stuff has me baffled. Any tech I buy addresses a specific need I have for it. I got a iPad on launch day a few years ago, and it still meets a need I didn't know existed when I bought it. I found that rather remarkable. I use my iPhone all the time; again addressing a need I've found indespensible. I guessed at a need, and discovered...hey...this is kinda cool and useful.
All these things come at a dollar price, so one merely adresses value for each. I have an iMac and a macbook air, all for productivity purposes. I added an iPad mini because the price was reasonable, and it is an upgrade from the original iPad. I don't really see value for my needs in the next cycle of the iPads, so like the iPhone cycle, I'll upgrade to a 5s from my ip4 when there is no line. My air provides something of a "bridge" to the next cycle.
I rather think this is part of AAPL's strategy with a product line, and incremental refresh. When customers see value, they purchase. I really don't see that with the competition. I saw a surface last night. It seems like a device that can't decide what it is supposed to be for. If it's a tablet, it seems kinda...crappy. If it's a laptop...it seems kind crappy. Value to me is two device taylored for the need they address. And they all...work together nicely. That's value to me.
Strange decision on the part of Microsoft. That Apple would release the new iPads on this date is hardly a suprise, Apple is if anything consitent with regards to product announcements.
One can only assume that the person who chose this date is a dilussional idiot.... I'm guessing Steve Balmer made the decision.
Exactly. Apple events are on Tuesdays and IIRC almost always have been. You'd think at least one of the bazillion worker bees at MS would have raised their hand. [shakes head walking away]
Anyone wants what Apple will come up with this fall ? Surprising device is coming but nobody seems to know and talk about .
I think you're on to something!
This year's iPad and iPad Mini will, likely, all have A7X APUs -- as will a new AppleTV. Apple also could introduce a new, larger iPad.
In addition, all could have Retina and 802.11ac WiFi.
The iPads have room for a larger battery to handle Retina and processor-intensive apps. The AppleTV is plugged in.
With 64-bit architecture any/all of these could support more than 4 Gig RAM.
So, what surprises are in store???
How about?
1) The new, larger iPad las a 4K display for specialties needing higher resolution (medical, business, creative, video...).
2) The new iPad -- same, old, same, old -- only better and faster.
3) The new iMad Mini -- wait for it...
4) Any of these iPads combined with the new AppleTV can be used as a personal TV each, concurrently, receiving its own streamed content from the AppleTV.
5) The new iPad Mini with Retina will be a more-widely accepted solution for mobile needs (medical, business, creative, video...).
6) The new iPad Mini (with some creative cell plans) could be Apple's solution to the Phablet.
7) The new iPad Mini with Retina and fast WiFi storage (and possible 3rd-party accessories) combined with the new AppleTV will be the ultimate gaming console.
I think the entire iPad line (especially the Mini) and the new AppleTV could be the major Apple products of the year!
Microsoft Bought Nokia, did it not? What are the chances their tablet will run anything other than Windows?
Why would a Nokia tablet with Windows RT or Windows 8 do any better than a Microsoft Surface tablet which has been proven nobody wants to buy. Surface fanbois think a spec bump is what the people have been waiting for.
By the way, it looks like that there's not going to be any black iPad this year, which is what I was wanting, so I guess that I see a gold iPad 64 GB or 128 GB in my future! It'll be mine! My precious!
The gold -- really, champagne -- is simply exquisite. I really hope they have that on the iPad too.
Agreed! The photos on the web of the Gold iPhone do not do it justice. When I saw it in person I was impressed with just how understated and elegant it was. It is indeed closer to champagne than gold. I see the same color for the iPad Mini and.....maybe the MBA 11" - Apple would sell tons of gold MBA's! (You heard it hear first!)
Strange decision on the part of Microsoft. That Apple would release the new iPads on this date is hardly a suprise, Apple is if anything consitent with regards to product announcements.
One can only assume that the person who chose this date is a dilussional idiot.... I'm guessing Steve Balmer made the decision.
Look it's obvious why. It's so in the future they can remember when their launch was.
here is something for the rumor mill.... iWatch, the new apple tv with intelligent search agents (digital assistant)...
c'mon knowledge navigator!!!
just a thought.
Siri is the beginnings of the Knowledge Navigator. Seriously, the only thing that could make Siri better is including it with Mavericks (or a future update). It would take a bit, but I just don't see how our Macs couldn't handle the processing power to make that a reality.
Having your launch on the same day as an Apple launch is probably a bad idea.
It could be that Baller really believes that Microsoft has the clout to drown out Apple like it once could... Remember this is the guy that still thinks "last century."
Trying to get that post count up? Seriously, sometimes you just need to wait a second or two for it to show up.
So you never had a double or even triple post that wasn't your doing? Personally I've screwed up a few times but it is far more likely that a double post comes from a software glitch someplace.
Why would the mini need an x series chip if it didn't have retina? Personally I would be more excited about the A7 than retina.
That is easy, performance and hopefully more memory. As for that memory increase I'm hoping all three iPad devices move beyond 1GB, iOS and its apps could very much use a doubling of RAM but a move to 4GBs would be ideal.
It is all about performance with all of these devices needing significant improvements.
I know there is futility in discussing a chip that doesn't even exist yet but I don't understand this anti A7X position that has cropped up in this forum. Given that the "x" variant would provide for enhanced GPU capabilities I would think that people would be all over that. The A7 GPU is a fantastic chip but it does have a regression or two, an enhanced A7X could remove those regressions completely.
True- no need for the 7X if no retina. Thanks for pointing that out. I'd prefer an A6X and retina over an A7.
Actually that makes no sense in an iPad (any model), you really want to move to 64 bit as soon as possible. In very short order you will see 64 bit only apps as the 32 bit world is quickly left behind. Not to mention the general performance boost the A7 series brings.
But honestly- I'd prefer an A7x and retina and jump the price up. $399 is fine with me. Well worth it.
Well no! Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if Apple priced the Mini the way they did because they new enhanced somewhat more expensive hardware was coming. The current price should cover the enhancements most want to see in the device.
I'm interested to see what Nokia has planned for a tablet as long as it doesn't run Android or Windows.
Real competition would be nice and would motivate Apple to do even better. However isn't Nokia now owned by MicroSoft?
In any event the only thing that might drag me away from an iPad would be a Linux or BSD based tablet that is very open with at least some I/O on it. Oh and ideally it would be able to tap some of Apples infrastructure, for instance the calendar.
You see Apples walled garden is a mixed blessing if you are a hardware hacker or experimenter. So a product that goes the other way, that is that is open and accessible would be welcomed. The problem is there doesn't exist a suitable GUI environment for either BSD or Linux at the moment. Further most attempts so far look like crap from both the user and programmers standpoint. For a developers nothing comes close to the iOS SDK.
Was not an early iPad adopter, this'll be my first. Still on fence as to iPad 5 or Mini. No Retina on Mini would be deal breaker for me but I don't expect Apple will leave this option out. All things being equal, Retina-wise, the weight reduction of the iPad 5 counts to me. Previous gens felt too heavy and clumsy but if svelte enough I'll consider the big brother over the mini.
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All these things come at a dollar price, so one merely adresses value for each. I have an iMac and a macbook air, all for productivity purposes. I added an iPad mini because the price was reasonable, and it is an upgrade from the original iPad. I don't really see value for my needs in the next cycle of the iPads, so like the iPhone cycle, I'll upgrade to a 5s from my ip4 when there is no line. My air provides something of a "bridge" to the next cycle.
I rather think this is part of AAPL's strategy with a product line, and incremental refresh. When customers see value, they purchase. I really don't see that with the competition. I saw a surface last night. It seems like a device that can't decide what it is supposed to be for. If it's a tablet, it seems kinda...crappy. If it's a laptop...it seems kind crappy. Value to me is two device taylored for the need they address. And they all...work together nicely. That's value to me.
Strange decision on the part of Microsoft. That Apple would release the new iPads on this date is hardly a suprise, Apple is if anything consitent with regards to product announcements.
One can only assume that the person who chose this date is a dilussional idiot.... I'm guessing Steve Balmer made the decision.
Exactly. Apple events are on Tuesdays and IIRC almost always have been. You'd think at least one of the bazillion worker bees at MS would have raised their hand. [shakes head walking away]
I think you're on to something!
This year's iPad and iPad Mini will, likely, all have A7X APUs -- as will a new AppleTV. Apple also could introduce a new, larger iPad.
In addition, all could have Retina and 802.11ac WiFi.
The iPads have room for a larger battery to handle Retina and processor-intensive apps. The AppleTV is plugged in.
With 64-bit architecture any/all of these could support more than 4 Gig RAM.
So, what surprises are in store???
How about?
1) The new, larger iPad las a 4K display for specialties needing higher resolution (medical, business, creative, video...).
2) The new iPad -- same, old, same, old -- only better and faster.
3) The new iMad Mini -- wait for it...
4) Any of these iPads combined with the new AppleTV can be used as a personal TV each, concurrently, receiving its own streamed content from the AppleTV.
5) The new iPad Mini with Retina will be a more-widely accepted solution for mobile needs (medical, business, creative, video...).
6) The new iPad Mini (with some creative cell plans) could be Apple's solution to the Phablet.
7) The new iPad Mini with Retina and fast WiFi storage (and possible 3rd-party accessories) combined with the new AppleTV will be the ultimate gaming console.
I think the entire iPad line (especially the Mini) and the new AppleTV could be the major Apple products of the year!
Overrun
Drown Out
Wipeout
Eliminate
Blow Away
etc
more like obilitrate,anihilate,crush,do a steve ballmer....
more like obilitrate,anihilate,crush,do a steve ballmer....
Which all fall under the etc part.....hehe
I'm interested to see what Nokia has planned for a tablet as long as it doesn't run Android or Windows.
Microsoft Bought Nokia, did it not? What are the chances their tablet will run anything other than Windows?
A press release from a lemonade stand would generate about as much interest as the Surface 2 announcement -- at least locally.
Aw come on now, I LIKE lemonade. :-)
Microsoft Bought Nokia, did it not? What are the chances their tablet will run anything other than Windows?
Why would a Nokia tablet with Windows RT or Windows 8 do any better than a Microsoft Surface tablet which has been proven nobody wants to buy. Surface fanbois think a spec bump is what the people have been waiting for.
By the way, it looks like that there's not going to be any black iPad this year, which is what I was wanting, so I guess that I see a gold iPad 64 GB or 128 GB in my future! It'll be mine! My precious!
The gold -- really, champagne -- is simply exquisite. I really hope they have that on the iPad too.
Agreed! The photos on the web of the Gold iPhone do not do it justice. When I saw it in person I was impressed with just how understated and elegant it was. It is indeed closer to champagne than gold. I see the same color for the iPad Mini and.....maybe the MBA 11" - Apple would sell tons of gold MBA's! (You heard it hear first!)
here is something for the rumor mill.... iWatch, the new apple tv with intelligent search agents (digital assistant)...
c'mon knowledge navigator!!!
just a thought.
Look it's obvious why. It's so in the future they can remember when their launch was.
The headlines always remove attribution, so they read:
"...seen as..."
"...likely to..."
"...predicted to..."
Guys, it's noise. Delicious noise.
And of course 'purported'.
here is something for the rumor mill.... iWatch, the new apple tv with intelligent search agents (digital assistant)...
c'mon knowledge navigator!!!
just a thought.
Siri is the beginnings of the Knowledge Navigator. Seriously, the only thing that could make Siri better is including it with Mavericks (or a future update). It would take a bit, but I just don't see how our Macs couldn't handle the processing power to make that a reality.
It could be that Baller really believes that Microsoft has the clout to drown out Apple like it once could... Remember this is the guy that still thinks "last century."
So you never had a double or even triple post that wasn't your doing? Personally I've screwed up a few times but it is far more likely that a double post comes from a software glitch someplace.
That is easy, performance and hopefully more memory. As for that memory increase I'm hoping all three iPad devices move beyond 1GB, iOS and its apps could very much use a doubling of RAM but a move to 4GBs would be ideal.
It is all about performance with all of these devices needing significant improvements.
The scheduling overlap sets Apple up to steal a considerable amount of thunder from its competitors ...
It's not really Apple doing the stealing, although that's how things will end up.
Last year's iPhone announcement: 11 September 2012.
This year's iPhone announcement: 10 September 2013.
Last year's iPad announcement: 23 October 2012.
This year's iPad announcement: 22 October 2013.
See a pattern there? Yeah. Good for you.
I wonder what Microsoft's marketing people saw there.
Actually that makes no sense in an iPad (any model), you really want to move to 64 bit as soon as possible. In very short order you will see 64 bit only apps as the 32 bit world is quickly left behind. Not to mention the general performance boost the A7 series brings.
Well no! Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if Apple priced the Mini the way they did because they new enhanced somewhat more expensive hardware was coming. The current price should cover the enhancements most want to see in the device.
Real competition would be nice and would motivate Apple to do even better. However isn't Nokia now owned by MicroSoft?
In any event the only thing that might drag me away from an iPad would be a Linux or BSD based tablet that is very open with at least some I/O on it. Oh and ideally it would be able to tap some of Apples infrastructure, for instance the calendar.
You see Apples walled garden is a mixed blessing if you are a hardware hacker or experimenter. So a product that goes the other way, that is that is open and accessible would be welcomed. The problem is there doesn't exist a suitable GUI environment for either BSD or Linux at the moment. Further most attempts so far look like crap from both the user and programmers standpoint. For a developers nothing comes close to the iOS SDK.
Was not an early iPad adopter, this'll be my first. Still on fence as to iPad 5 or Mini. No Retina on Mini would be deal breaker for me but I don't expect Apple will leave this option out. All things being equal, Retina-wise, the weight reduction of the iPad 5 counts to me. Previous gens felt too heavy and clumsy but if svelte enough I'll consider the big brother over the mini.