Apple designer Ive's custom charity desk revealed in new pics

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  • Reply 20 of 77
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    Where's the pics of the grand piano and the Range Rover? I'd rather see what those look like, instead of just a desk.

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  • Reply 22 of 77
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
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    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

     

    Maybe if he'd spent as much time on iOS 7 as he did on cameras and tables it wouldn't be such an unmitigated user interface disaster.


    Design is about making something that's complex be simple while still retaining functionality. A table is a simple problem to start with, so the whole thing can be solved almost through choice of materials alone. This would almost have been an exercise to him. I don't think it would take much time away from iOS 7. The camera might have.

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  • Reply 23 of 77
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Shouldn't Jony be too busy to be doing stuff like this?
    takeo wrote: »
    Maybe if he'd spent as much time on iOS 7 as he did on cameras and tables it wouldn't be such an unmitigated user interface disaster.

    First, the last time I checked, slavery was illegal. I really doubt that Ive works on Apple products 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Second, this kind of thing is a valuable learning experience for designers. It helps them to think of creative solutions for problems and smart management lets their designers spend some time just experimenting. If he can get Apple some great PR at the same time, it's a bonus.
    pazuzu wrote: »

    You all stole from my my post 2 days ago where I got hissed , booed and thumbs downed! :lol:

    And rightly so. It was just as ridiculous then as it is now.
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  • Reply 24 of 77
    Yes, machined from one piece of aluminum, not a giant block. A cast is create to the rough table dimensions (including the legs) and then that one piece is machined to exacting specifications. In other worlds, the original cast roughly reflects the finished table with legs, not a gigantic block of aluminum.
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  • Reply 25 of 77
    poochpooch Posts: 768member
    pazuzu wrote: »

    You all stole from my my post 2 days ago where I got hissed , booed and thumbs downed! :lol:

    i've been looking for that thumbs-down button ... where is it?
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  • Reply 26 of 77

    For crying out loud. The man is doing this for a charity! Better than most of the whiners on this blog.

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  • Reply 27 of 77

    as much I love Apple, this time Ive and Newson they just copied a desk and make in aluminum.

     

    The desk is called Shift designed from Norman Foster for Tecno in 2011.

     

    http://www.tecnospa.com/products/Shift

     

    who wants one? :-)

     

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  • Reply 28 of 77
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    "Machined from a solid block of aluminum". Are they saying it's machined from one piece of aluminum? Seems like the legs would have had to be welded on. Any materials guys monitoring this thread?

    The top and legs could be machined out of one block aluminum but in separate pieces.
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  • Reply 29 of 77
    ipenipen Posts: 410member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giacomo View Post

     

    as much I love Apple, this time Ive and Newson they just copied a desk and make in aluminum.

     

    The desk is called Shift designed from Norman Foster for Tecno in 2011.

     

    http://www.tecnospa.com/products/Shift

     


     

    I smell law suit.

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  • Reply 30 of 77
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post



    "Machined from a solid block of aluminum". Are they saying it's machined from one piece of aluminum? Seems like the legs would have had to be welded on. Any materials guys monitoring this thread?

     

    It wasn't a solid rectangle to start with.  Could have been a mold in the same basic shape as the final product, then mill off the excess.

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  • Reply 31 of 77
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giacomo View Post

     

    as much I love Apple, this time Ive and Newson they just copied a desk and make in aluminum.

     

    The desk is called Shift designed from Norman Foster for Tecno in 2011.

     

    http://www.tecnospa.com/products/Shift

     

    who wants one? :-)

     


     

    Nice catch.

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  • Reply 32 of 77
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    If you're upset with Ive spending time on a desk (when you think he should be working on Apple products) you'll really be upset that he's involved with the design of the new Apple campus.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24290808/apple-offers-sneak-peek-at-its-new-headquarters
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  • Reply 33 of 77
    icoco3 wrote: »
    It wasn't a solid rectangle to start with.  Could have been a mold in the same basic shape as the final product, then mill off the excess.

    Landcruiser beat you to it ;) but yes I'm sure you guys are correct. I'm pretty certain I've seen that technique before just on a smaller scale so I feel dumb for not realizing it.
    Jragosta hinted at it too in his post talking about engine blocks. Similar technique.

    Thanks for responding. This was one of those curiosities that would have driven me crazy. Probably because the answer should have been staring me in the face.
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  • Reply 34 of 77
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    giacomo wrote: »

    Hmm...considering they're both friends of Norman Foster I find this odd. Unless he's aware they copied the basic shape. If not, then that's not cool at all.
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  • Reply 35 of 77
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    rogifan wrote: »
    If you're upset with Ive spending time on a desk (when you think he should be working on Apple products) you'll really be upset that he's involved with the design of the new Apple campus.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24290808/apple-offers-sneak-peek-at-its-new-headquarters

    Not at all - it's Apple related, isnt it? :D
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  • Reply 36 of 77
    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

    Maybe if he'd spent as much time on iOS 7 as he did on cameras and tables it wouldn't be such an unmitigated user interface disaster.

     

    He’s a hardware designer and you’re up in arms over the fact that he enjoys designing hardware products?

     

    Originally Posted by archibaldtuttle View Post

    Shouldn't Jony be too busy to be doing stuff like this?

     

    Shouldn’t you be too busy to make an assessment as to the busyness of someone else? Come on.

     

    Originally Posted by Giacomo View Post

    as much I love Apple, this time Ive and Newson they just copied a desk and make in aluminum.

     

    who wants one? :-)


     

     

    Not me. I’ll take the aluminum one, though.

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  • Reply 37 of 77
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    ipen wrote: »
    I smell law suit.

    rogifan wrote: »
    Hmm...considering they're both friends of Norman Foster I find this odd. Unless he's aware they copied the basic shape. If not, then that's not cool at all.

    That's not the first time Ive has ever copied anything.

    700

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  • Reply 38 of 77
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    dupe
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  • Reply 39 of 77
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Yes, machined from one piece of aluminum, not a giant block. A cast is create to the rough table dimensions (including the legs) and then that one piece is machined to exacting specifications. In other worlds, the original cast roughly reflects the finished table with legs, not a gigantic block of aluminum.

    Yes, that's absolutely a possibility as well.

    For a one time deal, it's not clear which approach would be more economical. Machining aluminum is not very time consuming or expensive so you'd weigh the cost of making a mold and casting the rough table then finish machining against the cost of starting with a large block and machining it to shape. I honestly don't know which one would be cheaper - it probably depends on whether they can easily find a raw block of the desired size.
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  • Reply 40 of 77
    applguyapplguy Posts: 235member
    I've always wanted a one piece aluminum desk. Glad to see one of these large CNC machines used for a practical purpose. http://www.cmsna.com/210_cronus_moving_bridge.php. (I have no idea if it was this machine or another.)
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