Me too. M$ are between a rock and the hard place. iPad is killing them and surface in hardware. Now iWorks is going to put the boot in.
Adding to the crown jewels of Apple's business. The ecosystem.
Add in that OS X now costs nothing? That's another layer of money that business now don't have to pay for. (If only Apple would make their Mac hardware just that bit cheaper...they used to!!!)
Lemon Bon Bon.
Business will just invest in one eco-system. That works.
Across iPhone. iPad. (There's 200 million in sales nearly next year, just there!) That's some pressure from users to bring in their own kit!
And there's the Mac.
All of it. iCloud.
The App store.
All of it.
Just works. All connected. No extra training. Simple.
Whether you are on iPhone, iPad or Mac. It just is the 'Mac' experience.
All Apple have to do is keep going, keep piling the pressure on.
Lemon Bon Bon.
Add in a bigger iPhone...
and a 13 incher iPad....
AND A MORE AFFORDABLE iMAC for the LOVE OF GOD.
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In the light of the iWork disaster this looks good. I am using iWork since years as only Office suite. I don't think I want to go back to MS Office. I don't want to pay $100 per year. But Apple has to rectify what they have done with iWork, or I might jump ship in a year or so.
Knee jerk over reaction by some people. A disaster would be the US dollar collapsing in the next 2-5 years...
What Patsu said.
Semi-related: I can tell you one thing I wish Apple would copy from Microsoft's IE is the ability to right click on a table in the browser and export to Excel, or in Apple's case, Numbers. I absolutely love that feature as we use a lot of tabular data on the web and it is a super fast way to get it into a spreadsheet.
While not as convenient as right-clicking, you can simply copy the table and then paste it into Numbers.
Your serious right, I'm sure Numbers is okay for the average consumer to do their home budget on but the second you require a scripting language to calculate the PnL from thousands of trades from different exchanges in which the source information comes from 15 different sources ranging from XML, comma separated files to password protected Oracle DB that are located on remote servers across the Atlantic, Number starts to look like a toy real fast, So please clarify what you mean.
The thing is - if Apple creates a productivity suite that makes ALL users happy, power users as well as the more casual user, the suite will end up like MS Office (and only power users will be truly happy). It will be better for the vast majority if iWorks never catches up with MS Office. The real power users should continue to use Office and the rest of us will gravitate towards our suite of preference.
Think of this as a preemptive move by Apple, sort of like what happened with Google Maps. Since Google wasn't updating the platform with features that they were doing for Android, Apple said we will go our own way, remove Maps and provide our own. That cuts into Google's revenue. Thus, Google had two choices, stay off the iOS platform, which provided huge chunk of search revenue, or put out their own version of Maps that competes and provides features on parity.
What everyone overlooks in the Apple "Map Debacle" is that its not about having their own or better mapping system, its leverage for Apple to ensure that users of their hardware, which is were the majority of their revenue comes from, has the best user experience. What did it cost Apple to release and provide their own mapping solution vs. the costs of consumers possibly jumping ship and going to Android to get features they wanted?
This is the same scenario. What does it cost Apple to develop software and give it away for free? Microsoft can't compete here since they are predominately a software company and that is their revenue stream. But, providing iwork apps for free cuts into MS revenue stream of Office. I believe what Apple wants is MS to release office apps for iOS. They don't have to be free but Apple know that users want that as well and MS is holding out.
By applying the pressure of both increased iPad sales, which further erode PC sales and places to run Office, and giving away their own productivity apps, which will reduce reliance on Office, they are pushing MS into releasing MS Office apps on the iPad. This would be a huge win for Apple and will escalate hardware sales. I see this happening if Surface 2 doesn't come back with good number by holiday time.
Um Microsoft Office is free to use online as well, all you need to do is sign up to SkyDrive. What you are referring to is Office 365. Please do a simple Google or Bing search before posting false info. People might take what you posted as fact and miss out on a pretty decent FREE service from Microsoft, it's a no-brainer.
You need a Surface to run Office 365?
This isn't Office 365, do you guys just read the headlines and then just assume.
Go here -> https://login.live.com get a free account and start using it.
Sure, it's Office 365. It's a post from the "Office 365 Technology" blog. Maybe you should have read the blog post rather than making assumptions about what I did and did not read? Even if it wasn't Office 365 (which is honestly irrelevant to my question), I see no answer to what exactly about these Web Apps requires a Surface tablet which was the entire point of my question.
Sure, it's Office 365. It's a post from the "Office 365 Technology" blog. Maybe you should have read the blog post rather than making assumptions about what I did and did not read?
The Office part of 365 part is free, has always been but they don't call it Office 365 when in Skydrive just Office. This is a free service available to anyone, all you need is a SkyDrive account.
Great, so why does it require a Surface tablet? You know, my actual question rather than this irrelevant nitpicking over whether it's Office 365 or not.
Great, so why does it require a Surface tablet?
Huh? It doesn't! Just go check it out for yourself real quick, it takes 2 minutes to get in and start using instead of posting questions here if it's available or not. It's actually a very useful app, I have been using it for a year and this update is really nice.
So you've been using iWork for years? Why can't you simply continue to use iWork '09 as you were? Then when the latest version regains all the features you hold so near and dear, you can make the switch.
I don't believe Apple has screwed anyone over or did anything wrong. It's their software, if they feel the need to rewrite it from the ground up so they can gain cross platform compatibility then they should do just that. In the long run this makes much more sense.
Zactly. Well said!