Samsung: no disputing we sold Apple's property and owe a 'huge sum of money'

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  • Reply 21 of 106
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,386member
    How about a Kagillion dollars? Admission of guilt from Scamscum. FINALLY!!
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  • Reply 22 of 106
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    [quote]...by the time the trial begins, will not have been off the market for nearly two years.[/quote]

    Try that again. Looks like you combined two opposing direction sentence ideas ("has not been on" vs "will have been off". Proof reading is your friend.
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  • Reply 23 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member

    Yeah, sure, $28K in patent royalties for non-essential patents--patents Samsung didn't need to license in order to produce a smartphone and therefore didn't have to infringe, except Samsung wanted people to believe they were getting everything the iPhone had to offer.

     

    Samsung == pathetic

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  • Reply 24 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Well so much for the appeal.

    Sammy, you willfully infringed and should get hammered for a lot more money.

    And waste millions more? It's better to just try to minimize the inevitable.
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  • Reply 25 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Damages are hardly ever awarded higher than what was made by the offending party.

    In cases of willful infringement (as this seems to be), punitive damages awarded to the plaintiff may be as much as triple the compensatory damages.

     

    IANAL

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  • Reply 26 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    cpsro wrote: »
    In cases of willful infringement (as this seems to be), punitive damages awarded to the plaintiff may be as much as triple the compensatory damages.

    IANAL

    If I'm not mistaken treble damages is off the table hence why they're admitting guilt.
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  • Reply 27 of 106
    fechhelm wrote: »
    Good artists copy, great artists steal.
    Famous, glib, and essentially meaningless quote.
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  • Reply 28 of 106

    No one is jumping on the fact that Samsung is claiming they made 52 million dollars on the sale of 10 million phones...They make $5 on every phone they sell?? That to me is really scary.....

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  • Reply 29 of 106
    "Infringing" sounds so much less sleazy than stealing doesn't it. Like inflictor of unwanted intercourse sounds better than rapist.
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  • Reply 30 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    If I'm not mistaken treble damages is off the table hence why they're admitting guilt.

    Does that somehow follow from an admission of guilt? Because I don't see how. Samsung likely didn't want the "crisis of design" memo entered into evidence because this would support a conclusion of willful infringement.

     

    I see the admission of guilt as an attempt to calm emotions of the jurors, because this trial isn't about innocence or guilt. Guilt has already been established and I believe willful infringement was found in the previous trial.

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  • Reply 31 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    "Infringing" sounds so much less sleazy than stealing doesn't it. Like inflictor of unwanted intercourse sounds better than rapist.

    Yes, and just like it would sound worse if Android handset manufacturers were said to have gang raped Apple for its intellectual property.

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  • Reply 32 of 106
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
    Quote:
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    Good artists copy, great artists steal.


    That quote of Jobs' is largely irrelevant to the present situation.

    Anyway, Apple licensed the GUI technology from Xerox PARC and took it much, much farther than Xerox had. You'd hardly recognize a relationship--hence it wasn't copied. or stolen. But Xerox was no longer in a position of innovative leadership in this area.

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  • Reply 33 of 106
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    No one is jumping on the fact that Samsung is claiming they made 52 million dollars on the sale of 10 million phones...They make $5 on every phone they sell?? That to me is really scary.....


     

    And they are the only Android phone maker that is allegedly making a profit! Wow, what a loser of a game to be in for these manufacturers. Google is the only one reaping a benefit.

     

    These companies would've been better off forming a joint consortium to develop a phone OS to compete with iPhone than get tangled up in Android.

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  • Reply 34 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    cpsro wrote: »
    Does that somehow follow from an admission of guilt? Because I don't see how. Samsung likely didn't want the "crisis of design" memo entered into evidence because this would support a conclusion of willful infringement.

    I see the admission of guilt as an attempt to calm emotions of the jurors, because this trial isn't about innocence or guilt. Guilt has already been established and I believe willful infringement was found in the previous trial.

    Treble damages is still off the table. Which is why they're so willfully admitting guilt. In a civil case being found guilty doesn’t necessarily mean that you are, just that you most likely are.
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  • Reply 35 of 106
    Samsung ADMITS guilt. Hang Samsung, Jurors.
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  • Reply 36 of 106
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    cpsro wrote: »
    Does that somehow follow from an admission of guilt? Because I don't see how. Samsung likely didn't want the "crisis of design" memo entered into evidence because this would support a conclusion of willful infringement.

    I see the admission of guilt as an attempt to calm emotions of the jurors, because this trial isn't about innocence or guilt. Guilt has already been established and I believe willful infringement was found in the previous trial.
    Yes treble damages are off the table. Judge Koh ruled a few months back there was no willfullness.
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  • Reply 37 of 106
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    Yes treble damages are off the table. Judge Koh ruled a few months back there was no willfullness.

     

    And this is why more jurors need to join the Fully Informed Jury Association. Ignore the judge's instructions and award treble damages because they have admitted willful infringement with the intent to ride Apple's coattails without doing the hard work to create their own products.

     

    http://fija.org

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  • Reply 38 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jameskatt2 wrote: »
    Samsung ADMITS guilt. Hang Samsung, Jurors.

    They were already found guilty. Admission doesn’t matter at this point.
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  • Reply 39 of 106
    sflocal wrote: »
    Wow, just wow.  Samsung's own attorneys flat-out admit they were stealing all along?  I'd give $1 in damages to Apple, and another $3.5billion in punitive damages to Apple for having Samsung waste everyone's time.


    Samsung is just slimy vermin.  Let's see how the Fandroid/Samsung lapdogs that infest this forum try spinning this little tidbit.

    They will, once they get over the cognitive dissonance digesting Samsung's new position on this case.
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  • Reply 40 of 106
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Well they were found guilty of infringing so to go up there and act like they still weren't would've been standard Samsung behaviour

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/03/samsung_denies_cheating_on_benchmark_testing_despite_evidence/

    Fixed that for you.
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