It's also qualified to run on the side, no doubt rack mounting kits will appear for it soon.
1) I still question how the cable setup will be done. I'd think slid into grooved chambers on an angle, like angled parking would be better than laid fully on their side.
2) Is that one screen of your new Mac Pro?
1) Thats a good idea. You could also fully populate it with short cables and bring them all out to a wiring harness/router on the back/bottom.
2) No, not my Mac Pro...
I got up too late and the shipments were already out to February... But that gives me more time to save $ to get:
New Mac Pro -- likely, mid-range
4K Monitor
TB2 Pegasus Raid -- likely, the 32 Terabyte
My granddaughter just got $1,800 worth of starter DSLR gear and she takes lots and lots of photos and videos... It is amazing how fast you can fill up 2 10 Terabyte RAIDS
Are you finished with school -- or just sabbatical?
As for the form factor, the new Mac Pro is an obvious departure from the normal silver machines we have been bumping our chairs into at the side of our feet for over ten years. This sits quietly on the desktop.
Very quiet. It is so quiet that you probably won't even hear the fan if you have a disk drive running nearby or have an air conditioner overhead. The footprint is small so it will fit on most desks, production environments or outside broadcast vans. It's also qualified to run on the side, no doubt rack mounting kits will appear for it soon.
He says this matter-of-factly, without sourcing. It would be nice to hear Apple say it. I couldn't find anything about this in the manual.
Nevertheless, if it's rackable on the side, that's a good thing.
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<div class="quote-block" style="border:1px solid rgb(217,218,216);color:rgb(24,24,24);padding:10px;">As for the form factor, the new Mac Pro is an obvious departure from the normal silver machines we have been bumping our chairs into at the side of our feet for over ten years. This sits quietly on the desktop.
Very quiet. It is so quiet that you probably won't even hear the fan if you have a disk drive running nearby or have an air conditioner overhead. The footprint is small so it will fit on most desks, production environments or outside broadcast vans. It's also qualified to run on the side, no doubt rack mounting kits will appear for it soon.</div>
He says this matter-of-factly, without sourcing. It would be nice to hear Apple say it. I couldn't find anything about this in the manual.
Nevertheless, if it's rackable on the side, that's a good thing. :D
As a leading FCPX site, and the fact they got a BTO configuration on day 1 -- makes me believe that they have direct contact with Apple.
$1700 + $895 + $27 x 20 cartridges (30TB) = $3135. Slightly cheaper than the 32TB Pegasus at $4600 but you wouldn't need to buy 20 cartridges at first, just enough to free up the 10TB Pegasus drives.
I'm not sure why HP doesn't just release a Thunderbolt or USB 3 LTO drive. It could be the main storage medium used by desktop users to ship and backup large files.
Swapping out/upgrading GPU's, and expansion slots yes. You couldn't swap out CPU cores before but thats why more space is vital, to put in as many as possible. As far as RAM, the more space you have, the more you can fit in (and yes OS X has a limit of how much it can "see", but thats moot when running multiple OS's in VMs - the more the merrier).
Except that that's just not what is done with pro workstations. The only thing that is done is to upgrade RAM, and maybe the startup drive. Workstations are used until they no longer meet the need, then they are sold off, and new ones put in. That's almost always the way it's done. Now, if you're buying a $15,000 workstation ,or a more expensive one, you may upgrade to more processors, etc. but Apple's not playing in that space. They're not competing with boxx's high end models
The answer is correct, you are multiplying ASCII characters that need conversion to decimal first before multiplication.
It's not a server but Apple sure does like to use server parts. They shouldn't pretend, they should just build a dual purpose workstation versus limiting it.
That's a server, not a workstation. The Mac Pro is not a server, it's a workstation. It would also do you well to check the pricing on that Dell, both the base machine and the upgrades.
$1700 + $895 + $27 x 20 cartridges (30TB) = $3135. Slightly cheaper than the 32TB Pegasus at $4600 but you wouldn't need to buy 20 cartridges at first, just enough to free up the 10TB Pegasus drives.
I'm not sure why HP doesn't just release a Thunderbolt or USB 3 LTO drive. It could be the main storage medium used by desktop users to ship and backup large files.
Wish the demo machines had a better variety. They all seem to be 8-core video beasts.
6-core and 12-core would have been interesting.
Also, it would be nice if some test site would set up a set of files that people could download and test on their own machines for comparison and to organize the results. Real-world stuff like a movie that would have several effects performed on it, a 10-second animation in variety of 3D apps for rendering.
But, it is nice to see that my current iMac (late 2012) is actually pretty good. Of course, several tested apps have not been optimized for the MP yet.
I really like how they did incorporate the central radiator core in that image.
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Only Apple can notice a detail and design a power cord like this one:
Oh, and on the new, crazy-thin iMac, the cable exits the back of the plug at a slight upward angle (meaning if you hold the plug end vertically, the cable points up a bit)… because when it’s plugged into the iMac, the cable then comes out perfectly horizontally at the standard angle.
Oh, and on the new, crazy-thin iMac, the cable exits the back of the plug at a slight upward angle (meaning if you hold the plug end vertically, the cable points up a bit)… because when it’s plugged into the iMac, the cable then comes out perfectly horizontally at the standard angle.
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1) Thats a good idea. You could also fully populate it with short cables and bring them all out to a wiring harness/router on the back/bottom.
2) No, not my Mac Pro...
I got up too late and the shipments were already out to February... But that gives me more time to save $ to get:
My granddaughter just got $1,800 worth of starter DSLR gear and she takes lots and lots of photos and videos... It is amazing how fast you can fill up 2 10 Terabyte RAIDS
Are you finished with school -- or just sabbatical?
Sabbatical until mid-January, but I'll never stop studying as here is always something to be learned.
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
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Very quiet. It is so quiet that you probably won't even hear the fan if you have a disk drive running nearby or have an air conditioner overhead. The footprint is small so it will fit on most desks, production environments or outside broadcast vans. It's also qualified to run on the side, no doubt rack mounting kits will appear for it soon.
He says this matter-of-factly, without sourcing. It would be nice to hear Apple say it. I couldn't find anything about this in the manual.
Nevertheless, if it's rackable on the side, that's a good thing.
As a leading FCPX site, and the fact they got a BTO configuration on day 1 -- makes me believe that they have direct contact with Apple.
It might be worth looking into an archive solution such as:
http://www.amazon.com/HP-Ultrium-Drive-Storageworks-LTO-5/dp/B003G700G8
That would need a Thunderbolt to SAS adaptor:
http://www.attotech.com/products/product.php?scat=31&sku=TLSH-1068-D00
Each 1.5TB cartridge would be $27:
http://www.amazon.com/LTO5-Ultrium-1-5TB-3TB-Case/dp/B003KR4CXQ
$1700 + $895 + $27 x 20 cartridges (30TB) = $3135. Slightly cheaper than the 32TB Pegasus at $4600 but you wouldn't need to buy 20 cartridges at first, just enough to free up the 10TB Pegasus drives.
I'm not sure why HP doesn't just release a Thunderbolt or USB 3 LTO drive. It could be the main storage medium used by desktop users to ship and backup large files.
Except that that's just not what is done with pro workstations. The only thing that is done is to upgrade RAM, and maybe the startup drive. Workstations are used until they no longer meet the need, then they are sold off, and new ones put in. That's almost always the way it's done. Now, if you're buying a $15,000 workstation ,or a more expensive one, you may upgrade to more processors, etc. but Apple's not playing in that space. They're not competing with boxx's high end models
No, they don't. They use Xeon workstation class chips. Intel does make Xeon server chips, but Apple has never used those.
Again, no server chips inside.
That's a server, not a workstation. The Mac Pro is not a server, it's a workstation. It would also do you well to check the pricing on that Dell, both the base machine and the upgrades.
Strange that writing is faster than reading. Could that be a bug in Blackmagicdesign?
I'll say. I find the articles of lesser importance than the informative posts people write up.
Will you leave, or mostly be absent from AI, come mid January?
Thanks for the links… I'll investigate tomorrow!
Only Apple can notice a detail and design a power cord like this one:
Explanation for Windows/Android users: they curved the back of the plug so it fits seamless in the cylindrical shaped Mac.
LOL
Many out there:
Not looking forward to seeing how bad the Cinebench scores are...though I do want to see them.
Lots o' benchmarks
Wish the demo machines had a better variety. They all seem to be 8-core video beasts.
6-core and 12-core would have been interesting.
Also, it would be nice if some test site would set up a set of files that people could download and test on their own machines for comparison and to organize the results. Real-world stuff like a movie that would have several effects performed on it, a 10-second animation in variety of 3D apps for rendering.
But, it is nice to see that my current iMac (late 2012) is actually pretty good. Of course, several tested apps have not been optimized for the MP yet.
I really like how they did incorporate the central radiator core in that image.
Oh, and on the new, crazy-thin iMac, the cable exits the back of the plug at a slight upward angle (meaning if you hold the plug end vertically, the cable points up a bit)… because when it’s plugged into the iMac, the cable then comes out perfectly horizontally at the standard angle.
That is soooo Apple!
Ok so I should look past the Mac Pro benchmarks indicating a 12 core Xeon E5-2697 V2 (server CPU)?
http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2013/11/estimating-mac-pro-performance/
Or maybe ignore intel's page listing several servers using the same chip (including the Dell T620)?
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/benchmarks/server/xeon-e5-2600-v2/xeon-e5-2600-v2-summary.html
The Mac Pro does use a server class Xeon on the high end.
Just for kicks, you can even find the same Xeon server class chips in laptops:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/eurocom_launches_laptop_with_12_core_intel_xeon_e5_2697_v2_cpu.html