IBM: iOS crushed Android in Christmas shopping with 5 times the sales

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  • Reply 21 of 148
    rivie62 wrote: »
    Whatever you do, avoid talking about how many more androids were sold world-wide during that same period as opposed to iOS devices.  Any guesses, 5 to 1, 10 to 1?  It's only a matter of time.  When there are 100 androids to every 1 iOS device, then everyone will wonder why we used iPad's at all?  Just like we do with iPod's now.  Reading the tea leaves is as easy as going to some chinese web site and looking up what kind of phablets are out there.  Apple is so far behind it is almost funny.

    Ahh...

    But would you (or anybody for that matter) feel secure entering a credit card into an Android device and Android browser?
  • Reply 22 of 148
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 7,464member
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    To me Apple is the exact opposite of Amazon when it comes to Wall Street thinking. With Amazon Wall Street keeps pushing the stock up thinking, just wait, the huge profits going to come. With Apple it's the exact opposite. They can have record sales and profits but Wall Street thinks it's all coming to an end soon. They always find some antidote or some metric to prove that Apple is doomed. Even if Apple ports a blowout quarter next month Wallstreet will find some reason to pooh-pooh the numbers and drive the stock down.

     

    Well you have to admit that Apple has a whole lot of its eggs in one basket, namely the iPhone and iPad. If sales were to collapse on either one of those products Apple would be in trouble quickly. Just like stock portfolios companies sometimes need to be diversified. Samsung, for example, could fall flat on its face in mobile, lose market share, see sales of phones plummet, and still keep going building TVs and refrigerators. If iPhones suddenly fell out of favor what would Apple have to fall back on, Macintosh sales? 

  • Reply 23 of 148
    starxdstarxd Posts: 128member
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    Originally Posted by Ravi View Post



    No surprise here! iPhone has cornered itself as an elite product with snobbish value. So, any gift giving season the sales of Apple products will spike up because of this factor. But in the long run and on a day to day basis this niche product is no match to the ever expanding (and equalizing) juggernaut of Android.

    Did you even read the article you're commenting on?  This isn't about a spike in sales of Apple products, it's about a spike in mobile purchases on iOS devices.  

     

    To call iOS a niche product is idiotic.  iPhone is the biggest selling smartphone in the world by far, plus Apple has the biggest selling tablet and PMP.  

  • Reply 24 of 148
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,330member
    starxd wrote: »
    Wow, this is pretty bad reporting.  iOS did not represent the vast majority of U.S. "online shopping."  The stats are related to MOBILE shopping.  

    Are you sure about this?  iPhone is about 42% of the smart phone market in the US, but iOS also includes iPod Touch and iPad.  When those are included, I would guess that iOS has a higher market share than Android.  

    Yes your last point is correct. Everybody forgets the iPod touches.
  • Reply 25 of 148
    Originally Posted by Ravi

    But in the long run and on a day to day basis

     

    Despite being explicitly proven wrong by this very article, despite being explicitly proven wrong by every single other article ever written, you write this as though anyone is supposed to believe you, ever.

     

    Don’t just shut up and go away. This isn’t trolling anymore: this is a cry for mental help.

  • Reply 26 of 148
    starxdstarxd Posts: 128member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rivie62 View Post

     

    Whatever you do, avoid talking about how many more androids were sold world-wide during that same period as opposed to iOS devices.  Any guesses, 5 to 1, 10 to 1?  It's only a matter of time.  When there are 100 androids to every 1 iOS device, then everyone will wonder why we used iPad's at all?  Just like we do with iPod's now.  Reading the tea leaves is as easy as going to some chinese web site and looking up what kind of phablets are out there.  Apple is so far behind it is almost funny.


    Wow, can you Android fans not read??  This has nothing to do with sales of devices.  It is about online purchases MADE FROM mobile devices.  Unbelievable.

     

    As to the rest of your comment, it's too dumb to even comment on.  

  • Reply 27 of 148
    Speaking of IBM, they have a market cap of $201 billion and they have more patents than anyone... Apple should initiate a hostile takeover. :D

    Ha! AFAIK, IBM still has semiconductor foundries too... Plus established enterprise marketing and support channels...
  • Reply 28 of 148
    st88st88 Posts: 124member
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    Originally Posted by jkichline View Post



    This is simply because iOS devices are the only ones worth using for anything meaningful. Most Android devices on the market are pathetically cheap, antiquated and can hardly make a phone call. Mind you, not all... But most of the "market share".



    Go to an airport or a Panera Bread and look around. What tablet or phone are people actually using for work and play? How many people are using their phablets to take any decent pictures or video? They are toys at best and landfill rubbish at worst.



    But there ARE good Android devices. The trouble is they cost as much as Apple devices so what's the value proposition?

    This sounds like a description of Android 2 years ago. 

     

    A modern budget Android device such as the Motorola Moto G ($179 off contract) can do a lot more than "hardly make phone calls".

     

    One of the best Android devices, the Nexus 5 only costs $349 off contract.  That's $300 less than an unlocked iPhone 5S and $200 less than an unlocked iPhone 5C.

  • Reply 29 of 148

    I don't what to make of Android. Seems that Google has lost control of Android. It's Samsung's baby at this point. Oracle, who owns Java, has won a seemingly important decision against Google for not licensing Java. Google seems to be moving to Chrome OS. 

     

    Android is less a product and more a marketing label. The variations among devices running Android seems quite functionally vast as are the versions and configurations of Android running on them. If one were to itemize the functionality one receives with devices running Android, it would be represented by quite sparse-in-places 3D matrix of Device x Android Version x Function

     

    iOS, however, has far fewer variations and it is relatively simple to detail what functionality one gets. 

  • Reply 30 of 148
    Originally Posted by st88 View Post

    Thats $300 less than an unlocked iPhone 5S


     

    For a reason.

  • Reply 31 of 148
    st88st88 Posts: 124member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    For a reason.


     

    Clearly there is a reason why they can charge $300 less for a device that could easily sit between the 5C and 5S. 

  • Reply 32 of 148
    Speaking of IBM, they have a market cap of $201 billion and they have more patents than anyone... Apple should initiate a hostile takeover. :D

    That is an EXCELLENT idea. :D
  • Reply 33 of 148
    Originally Posted by st88 View Post

    Clearly there is a reason why they can charge $300 less for a device that could easily sit between the 5C and 5S. 


     

    And the reason can’t possibly be anything to do with the fact that it can’t, of course¡

  • Reply 34 of 148
    kpomkpom Posts: 618member
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    Originally Posted by st88 View Post

     

     

    Clearly there is a reason why they can charge $300 less for a device that could easily sit between the 5C and 5S. 


     

    The main reason is that Google sells it for not much more than cost, because their business model is driven by ad revenue.

  • Reply 35 of 148
    st88st88 Posts: 124member
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    Originally Posted by KPOM View Post

     

     

    The main reason is that Google sells it for not much more than cost, because their business model is driven by ad revenue.


    Exactly!

  • Reply 36 of 148
    st88st88 Posts: 124member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    And the reason can’t possibly be anything to do with the fact that it can’t, of course¡


    KPOM had the correct answer. 

  • Reply 37 of 148
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    lkrupp wrote: »
    Well you have to admit that Apple has a whole lot of its eggs in one basket, namely the iPhone and iPad. If sales were to collapse on either one of those products Apple would be in trouble quickly. Just like stock portfolios companies sometimes need to be diversified. Samsung, for example, could fall flat on its face in mobile, lose market share, see sales of phones plummet, and still keep going building TVs and refrigerators. If iPhones suddenly fell out of favor what would Apple have to fall back on, Macintosh sales? 
    And Google makes most of its money from search. How many billion-dollar businesses does Google have besides search?
  • Reply 38 of 148
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    st88 wrote: »
    Clearly there is a reason why they can charge $300 less for a device that could easily sit between the 5C and 5S. 
    Because Google is not in the business of making money off hardware. Get a clue.
  • Reply 39 of 148
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,336member

    You sound like Baghdad Bob. Seriously, while you cling to your precious "marketshare", did it ever occur to you that people just throw out old electronic devices they don't like? Maybe take them over to the salvation army to be re-activated over and over again? Desperately trying to find someone who will love the device before it's battery stops working? Almost all of my friends that have Android phones have dumped them for another one that was just as cheap. Where are all those marketshare figures? Sitting in a shoebox in someone's closet.

     

    While there are some great Android devices for sale, you need to face reality. Most suck. Most are switched off or abiding in the land of used toys. Most are not used for what Google or Apple intended. My grandfather has an Android phone. Does he use it as one? No. Does he buy anything? No. Does he take pictures, share videos, browse Facebook, purchase apps, use the GPS? No. No. No. Same with my mother.  They can hardly figure out how to make a phone call and everything else works too poorly to use.  We bought my grandmother an iPad last year and she takes it everywhere. Takes pictures, videos, chats with the grandkids on Facebook... appropriate technology is a wonderful thing.

     

    The point is that "marketshare" is worthless without engagement. Take a look at mobile web usage or app store sales figures or customer service rankings or anything else that ACTUALLY indicates a healthy ecosystem and you will see the same thing over and over and over again.

     

    While Apple devices may never win marketshare... they win over people that don't want to be bothered with installing five malware programs. You know, people who matter like researchers, movie directors, educators and creative professionals. People that realize that spending a little bit more for something that lasts is better than buying cheap, throwaway toys. People that are not minions chained to the tepid treadmill of cheaply made, soulless products that destroy the environment and better no one.

  • Reply 40 of 148
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post





    Ahh...



    But would you (or anybody for that matter) feel secure entering a credit card into an Android device and Android browser?

    LMAO

     

    Well said. Well said.

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