This whole argument reminded me of the last boss I ever had.
I was/am a graphic artist/desktop publisher. The guy who headed the company hated the fact that he had to pay the graphics department salaries because, in his opinion, we were a drain on the company's finances; we didn't actually earn any money for the company, per se. In his mind it was the sales people in the company who made the money. He'd come to the back every once in a while and say, "If it wasn't for the sales guys you guys wouldn't have a job."... and he could never get it through his head that without us, the sales guys would have nothing to sell. He just couldn't see it that way.
Or when Marge Schott complained that the only thing scouts did was watch baseball games.
This whole argument reminded me of the last boss I ever had.
I was/am a graphic artist/desktop publisher. The guy who headed the company hated the fact that he had to pay the graphics department salaries because, in his opinion, we were a drain on the company's finances; we didn't actually earn any money for the company, per se. In his mind it was the sales people in the company who made the money. He'd come to the back every once in a while and say, "If it wasn't for the sales guys you guys wouldn't have a job."... and he could never get it through his head that without us, the sales guys would have nothing to sell. He just couldn't see it that way.
He saw his sales guys as uniquely talented and you and your brethren as expendable commodities. Unless this company was in advertising, he probably had a point.
Why was it even necessary that he had to see it your way? You had a job, he paid you, jobs by definition have downsides but you probably gained experience and moved on.
Trust me, there are plenty of jobs that test a person's self worth on a daily basis. I've been self employed for a long time, but I've also had a variety of great and terrible jobs. Comes with capitalism.
He saw his sales guys as uniquely talented and you and your brethren as expendable commodities. Unless this company was in advertising, he probably had a point.
Why was it even necessary that he had to see it your way? You had a job, he paid you, jobs by definition have downsides but you probably gained experience and moved on.
Trust me, there are plenty of jobs that test a person's self worth on a daily basis. I've been self employed for a long time, but I've also had a variety of great and terrible jobs. Comes with capitalism.
Obviously you missed the point... and from what you wrote it seems that there is no use in discussing it further... you just wouldn't get it.
Then you must rarely frequent this site. I just had two crashes within the last 10 minutes.
I had very frequent crashes on AI until I upgraded to 10.9.1. On the Mac, at least, it was an OS problem, not AI, but it manifested only on AI. I am no techie, so I cannot start to explain.
I don't use my iPad for posting so I don't know about that.
Analysts can be found along the entire spectrum of views regarding companies. Basically they want your business and will tell the investors with the same disposition what they want to hear. Analysts jobs are simply to make money for themselves.
Apple is already making beautiful devices, that look expensive without being ostentatious; that have an inherent value, a luxury item without the luxury cost. What more would you have them do, specifically?
Keep doing it and don't be tempted to go low end no matter how often Wall Street says they need to.
Yes Apple takes 30% of what another party created and sold on Apple's platform hence they made Apple money. Apple wouldn't have made that 30% if someone didn't create the content/app/service.
& to Google there customers & their customers content are the product. Where is their cut of the profits?
That's not my point. My point is that developers would make money with or without the walled garden, Apple doesn’t make the money for them.
If you sell your product at a brick & mortar store do they take a cut? When Amazon sells products how do they profit? It is the developers choice to agree to those terms to be part of the App Store. They don't have to be a part of it. What you seem to leave out are the expenses that developers would have to pay that they don't pay for being a part of the App Store.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. That has nothing to do with my statement. Google product is any person that uses their services. The consumer & the consumers data is the product.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. That has nothing to do with my statement. Google product is any person that uses their services. The consumer & the consumers data is the product.
I understood that you asked me what's Apple's cut for Google's revenue, and the answer is that Google pays Apple a flat yearly rate instead of a percentage.
If you sell your product at a brick & mortar store do they take a cut? When Amazon sells products how do they profit? It is the developers choice to agree to those terms to be part of the App Store. They don't have to be a part of it. What you seem to leave out are the expenses that developers would have to pay that they don't pay for being a part of the App Store.
Yes they do. The cut is added to the final selling price.
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Or when Marge Schott complained that the only thing scouts did was watch baseball games.
Then you must rarely frequent this site. I just had two crashes within the last 10 minutes.
um ... this is post 1,350 ...
clearly there is something amiss with your set up (need more RAM?), a corrupted/bug/incompatible software, or your hardware.
This whole argument reminded me of the last boss I ever had.
I was/am a graphic artist/desktop publisher. The guy who headed the company hated the fact that he had to pay the graphics department salaries because, in his opinion, we were a drain on the company's finances; we didn't actually earn any money for the company, per se. In his mind it was the sales people in the company who made the money. He'd come to the back every once in a while and say, "If it wasn't for the sales guys you guys wouldn't have a job."... and he could never get it through his head that without us, the sales guys would have nothing to sell. He just couldn't see it that way.
He saw his sales guys as uniquely talented and you and your brethren as expendable commodities. Unless this company was in advertising, he probably had a point.
Why was it even necessary that he had to see it your way? You had a job, he paid you, jobs by definition have downsides but you probably gained experience and moved on.
Trust me, there are plenty of jobs that test a person's self worth on a daily basis. I've been self employed for a long time, but I've also had a variety of great and terrible jobs. Comes with capitalism.
um ... this is post 1,350 ...
clearly there is something amiss with your set up (need more RAM?), a corrupted/bug/incompatible software, or your hardware.
Except that Rogifan isn't the only member who has been complaining about this.
My system is 5 years old... works fine for me.
He saw his sales guys as uniquely talented and you and your brethren as expendable commodities. Unless this company was in advertising, he probably had a point.
Why was it even necessary that he had to see it your way? You had a job, he paid you, jobs by definition have downsides but you probably gained experience and moved on.
Trust me, there are plenty of jobs that test a person's self worth on a daily basis. I've been self employed for a long time, but I've also had a variety of great and terrible jobs. Comes with capitalism.
Obviously you missed the point... and from what you wrote it seems that there is no use in discussing it further... you just wouldn't get it.
Then you must rarely frequent this site. I just had two crashes within the last 10 minutes.
I had very frequent crashes on AI until I upgraded to 10.9.1. On the Mac, at least, it was an OS problem, not AI, but it manifested only on AI. I am no techie, so I cannot start to explain.
I don't use my iPad for posting so I don't know about that.
Yes Apple takes 30% of what another party created and sold on Apple's platform hence they made Apple money. Apple wouldn't have made that 30% if someone didn't create the content/app/service.
& to Google there customers & their customers content are the product. Where is their cut of the profits?
Except that Rogifan isn't the only member who has been complaining about this.
My system is 5 years old... works fine for me.
Mavericks broke a lot of older software. and some old extensions in Safari don't work anymore either.
How do I add more ram to my iPad Air? I turned off JavaScript but too many sites don't work right with it off.
for iPads i just don't know. mine work fine.
does it crash even after a restart the kills all apps and clears memory?
Google pays Apple a set fee on a yearly basis. Last I heard it was one billion dollars.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/apple-charges-google-1-billion-per-year-for-being-the-default-search-engine-on-its-devices-analyst-330228
That's not my point. My point is that developers would make money with or without the walled garden, Apple doesn’t make the money for them.
If you sell your product at a brick & mortar store do they take a cut? When Amazon sells products how do they profit? It is the developers choice to agree to those terms to be part of the App Store. They don't have to be a part of it. What you seem to leave out are the expenses that developers would have to pay that they don't pay for being a part of the App Store.
Google pays Apple a set fee on a yearly basis. Last I heard it was one billion dollars.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/apple-charges-google-1-billion-per-year-for-being-the-default-search-engine-on-its-devices-analyst-330228
I'm not sure what you are referring to. That has nothing to do with my statement. Google product is any person that uses their services. The consumer & the consumers data is the product.
I understood that you asked me what's Apple's cut for Google's revenue, and the answer is that Google pays Apple a flat yearly rate instead of a percentage.
Yes they do. The cut is added to the final selling price.