iBook specs..straight from me. :)

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Alrite, after looking over Blizzard's reqs. for WarCraft III, I have decided what I THINK will come in the next iBooks.



G3 1GHz (MAYBE...but...considering the tibook, who knows.)

or G3 800

I believe the 1 GHz G3, is compliant with 200 MHz DDR.

30 Gig HD

12.1 and 14" displays

DVD/CDRW.

16 MB ATi Graphic Card on an AGPx2 port.

Integrated BlueTooth, but that depends on if they want to integrate a new technology that isn't also on their top-of-the-line.



Atleast this way, it will be pretty fast, a good competitor. Also, hopefully they will drop each model by 100 bucks.
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  • Reply 1 of 42
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    Do you even think things through before posting? A G3 chip 200MHz faster than the G4 in the Powerbook? Nope. A DDR iBook when it is not in the Powerbook? No. Bluetooth in the iBook when it isn't in the Powerbook? No.
  • Reply 2 of 42
    resres Posts: 711member
    I think that they need to put a G4 and a 32mb video card in the next iBook. I'm just afraid that it will be a very slow G4 to differentiate it from the PowerBooks



    Of course, they could speed bump the PB up to 1Ghz, in which case they could give the new iBook up to an 800MHz G4. Probably not -- but one can hope.
  • Reply 3 of 42
    soopadrivesoopadrive Posts: 182member
    Don't assume that Apple will have those specs in an iBook just because of Warcraft III's system requirements. Plus, I don't see the logic in having 1 GHz in an iBook in the short term. In the long term, perhaps. But in the meantime, if any dramatic CPU adjustments were to occur (1 GHz+), expect to see them happen for the TiBook.
  • Reply 4 of 42
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:

    <strong>Do you even think things through before posting? A G3 chip 200MHz faster than the G4 in the Powerbook? Nope. A DDR iBook when it is not in the Powerbook? No. Bluetooth in the iBook when it isn't in the Powerbook? No.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    ...ibooks were first with combo and agp...



    :shrug:
  • Reply 5 of 42
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    [quote]Originally posted by janitor:

    <strong>



    ...ibooks were first with combo and agp...



    :shrug:</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Very true, but not by choice but because of design problems with the combo drives. For a brief period the iBook was faster than the Powerbook also by 66MHz before the Ti's were announced. But 200MHz? No way. DDR Ram? No way.
  • Reply 6 of 42
    escherescher Posts: 1,811member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:

    <strong>Bluetooth in the iBook when it isn't in the Powerbook? No.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Bodhi: I agree that eddively did not think through his post completely, but I have to disagree on your last point. Remember that AirPort shipped on the iBook several months before we got AirPort in a PowerBook (Pismo). In fact, both AirPort and USB were introduced on "cheap" consumer machines before they made it into the PowerMac and PowerBook lines. Adding Bluetooth to the iBook first would be a good way to compensate for the fact that it is the last Mac shipping with a G3 (and will probably be for at least one more iteration).



    Escher



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  • Reply 7 of 42
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    [quote]Originally posted by Escher:

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    Bodhi: I agree that eddively did not thing through his post completely, but I have to disagree on your last point. Remember that AirPort shipped on the iBook several months before we got AirPort in a PowerBook (Pismo). In fact, both AirPort and USB were introduced on "cheap" consumer machines before they made it into the PowerMac and PowerBook lines. Adding Bluetooth to the iBook first would be a good way to compensate for the fact that it is the last Mac shipping with a G3 (and will probably be for at least one more iteration).



    Escher</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Escher, I agree. Bluetooth is apossibility and with Apple these days you never know.



    But I have a feeling that they will ship integrated Bluetooth on the new Power Macs first.
  • Reply 8 of 42
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    I could believe something like Bluetooth could come in an iBook first (especially if it was a new enclosure), but the problem with a 1Ghz G3 is that they don't exist, and even when they do by year's end, they won't support DDR.
  • Reply 9 of 42
    digixdigix Posts: 109member
    Higher speed (CPU, main bus, RAM, etc) wouldn't be a possibility in a iBook IF it drastically reduced battery life and raises heat. The same goes for bigger screen, faster graphic card, faster optical drive, and so on.



    Bluetooh feature is possible though, if they want to made the iBook to have a built-in capability to communicate with small digital devices.



    But then there's still the problem of the conflict between Airport/WiFi and Bluetooth that some people talked about.



    Note: Stuff like the iBook actually would the best way to introduce built-in Bluetooth on Macintosh, since that it's a portable consumer device that probably will regulary hang around with other portable digital devices. While the PowerMac G4 isn't exactly needed a Bluetooth feature, since that it's desktop profesional device that probably don't hang around much with other portable digital device (at least not as much like the iBook). But it's really up to Apple to choose which model that they want to introduce built-in Bluetooth.



    Personally, the thing that I think will be included in a future iBook revision is a stylus and a swiveling screen that is capable of accepting from the stylus. The iBook is meant to be as a successor to the eMate, a device that had BOTH a keyboard and a stylus (no trackball or trackpad though). And with the introduction of Ink on Mac OS X, it's very possible that a stylus iBook with a swiveling screen will appear.
  • Reply 10 of 42
    gumby5647gumby5647 Posts: 241member
    600Mhz G3 (12.1")

    256k L2

    100Mhz Bus

    128MB

    20GB

    16MB ATi Rage Ultra

    CD-Rom

    1,199



    600Mhz G3 (12.1")

    256k L2

    100Mhz bus

    128MB

    20GB

    16MB ATi Rage Ultra

    DVD-Rom

    1,299



    700Mhz G3 (12.1")

    256k L2

    100Mhz bus

    128MB

    20GB

    16MB ATi Rage Ultra

    Combo Drive

    1,499



    700Mhz G3 (14.1")

    256k L2

    100Mhz bus

    256MB

    30GB

    16MB ATi Rage Ultra

    Combo

    1,799
  • Reply 11 of 42
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,184member
    Nope, all new hardware will have at least 32mb video ram.
  • Reply 12 of 42
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Funny. I think Bluetooth as more a pro than a consumer feature. Bluetooth is most associated with mobil phones and since IR is gone from the Ti they need another way to communicate wireless between the phone and the Ti.



    Airport was targeted towards schools and small WLANs at home so it made sense to let the iBook be the first computer to have it despite its more "pro" fetures over Bluetooth. And Apple needed something extraordinare to sell the iBook on. To include BT in the iBook wouldn´t have the marketing effect Airport had and would propably move sales from the Ti to the ice for "real" buisnessmen on the go.
  • Reply 13 of 42
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    considering I absolutely nailed the Powerbook G4 revision I think I should throw out my opinion on the iBook



    1.) 700Mhz G3 or 600 Mhz G4 (I'm leaning towards G4)

    2.) 128MB RAM standard

    3.) increased hard drive sizes. 30GB max on prebuilt.

    4.) Radeon mobility 16MB (possibly 32)
  • Reply 13 of 42
    gumby5647gumby5647 Posts: 241member
    [quote]Originally posted by Addison:

    <strong>Nope, all new hardware will have at least 32mb video ram.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    yeah a consumer laptop is going to go from an 8MB ATi Rage 128 chip clear up to a 32MB chip....in one jump.....



    just like how the PowerMac's are going to go from 1Ghz all the way up to 1.4-1.6GHz in one jump.





    come on, this is Apple we are talking about....
  • Reply 15 of 42
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
    Get with the program Gumby, 'Jagwire' needs 32MB video to do its thing. All new products will have 32MB video.
  • Reply 16 of 42
    gumby5647gumby5647 Posts: 241member
    you people are setting yourself up for a HUGE disappointment if you think the iBook is going to get a 32MB graphic chip.



    Applenut is probably right. a 16MB Radeon Mobility.



    Think common sense here people...



    a 32MB video card in a 1,199 laptop.? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 17 of 42
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    IMO by the time MWSF rolls around (at the latest) the iBook will have a G4 & 32MB video card. It would be stupid for Apple to sell hardware that doesn't take full advantage of their OS. If the iBook isn't significantly updated around the time 10.2 ships this fall it's going to look really anemic.
  • Reply 18 of 42
    eddivelyeddively Posts: 74member
    Yes..about the constant criticism. It's all good, this was ...1/2 me wishing..and 1/2 what I think. I put probably a 800 MHz G3..cause that is probably more likely. I also listed the fact that there is doubt that it will include BlueTooth. But on the DDR deal...the Sahara has it, so why not use it?



    It was kind of a joke, but 1/2 serious. We'll see...right?
  • Reply 19 of 42
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by vinney57:

    <strong>Get with the program Gumby, 'Jagwire' needs 32MB video to do its thing. All new products will have 32MB video.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    jaguar doesn't need anything.

    1.) it offers a huge improvement without quartz extreme

    2.) quartz extreme will run with 16MB of RAM. the 32 MB reccomendation is due to the possibility of using high resolutions. the iBook is capped at 1024 x 768. 16 MB is enough for that. 16MB is not enough for 1600 x 1200 on a G4 tower. get it?
  • Reply 20 of 42
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    What does Warcraft III have to do with the new iBook? Apple has never based computer specs on game requirements.



    The next iBook, I think, will come by MWNY at the very latest. Some features:



    G4 on a 100 MHz system bus. Low end will be 550-600 MHz, high end will be 650-700 MHz.

    Video chipset: 16 MB RAM, probably a Geforce2Go, or maybe a Radeon mobility (it will be Quartz Extreme ready).

    Display: 12" display will remain as is, but the 14" display MAY get a boost in resolution. But probably not.
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