NYT: Apple looking into solar, wireless inductive charging for 'iWatch'

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  • Reply 21 of 40
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    People stopped wearing watches because they already had a thing that told them the time -- their phone. This will do much much more than tell the time. The "watch" name is a red herring. This is an entirely new thing and comparing it to a watch is like saying in 2007 "I don't know why Apple is releasing this new thing, people stopped carry pocket watches years ago"

     

    OK... do this for me... wrap something around your wrist... now pretend you are sending a text... pretend you are searching on a website... pretend to do a lot of the things you do on your phone. After a minute or two you'll fully understand what I am saying. Can you do i?t... sure. Is it awkward?... you bet. About as awkward as that pocket watch on a chain compared to a wristwatch.

     

    Not everyone uses a phone with one hand. I'd go so far as to say that only about half the population uses just one hand. For the two handed users it will be even more awkward... and if you are leaving even 20% of the population out in the cold then you will never even achieve the same amount of sales as the smartphone.

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  • Reply 22 of 40
    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
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    OK... do this for me... wrap something around your wrist... now pretend you are sending a text... pretend you are searching on a website... pretend to do a lot of the things you do on your phone. After a minute or two you'll fully understand what I am saying. Can you do i?t... sure. Is it awkward?... you bet. About as awkward as that pocket watch on a chain compared to a wristwatch.

     

    Not everyone uses a phone with one hand. I'd go so far as to say that only about half the population uses just one hand. For the two handed users it will be even more awkward... and if you are leaving even 20% of the population out in the cold then you will never even achieve the same amount of sales as the smartphone.


     

    If this iWatch has a web browser I will be very, very surprised. Don't expect that kind of interaction.

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  • Reply 23 of 40
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    If this iWatch has a web browser I will be very, very surprised. Don't expect that kind of interaction.


     

    I'd have to agree with you on this. I'm thinking that this new iDevice is the cheap phone that a few people are always clamoring about... except that it's not a phone... well, it is, but it isn't... but it will be a cheap device that will be accessible to almost everyone because of its price.

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  • Reply 24 of 40
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
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    I'd have to agree with you on this. I'm thinking that this new iDevice is the cheap phone that a few people are always clamoring about... except that it's not a phone... well, it is, but it isn't... but it will be a cheap device that will be accessible to almost everyone because of its price.


    They kinda have this with the shuffle. Well except the phone part, and I doubt that talking into a watch is going to appeal to most.

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  • Reply 25 of 40
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    They kinda have this with the shuffle. Well except the phone part, and I doubt that talking into a watch is going to appeal to most.


     

    Everyone in the crowd becomes a Secret Service agent.

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    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
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    Everyone in the crowd becomes a Secret Service agent.


    Yes, and that brings up another point. Prior art. Agent Smart had this years ago. 

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  • Reply 27 of 40
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    Yes, and that brings up another point. Prior art. Agent Smart had this years ago. 


     

    ... and Dick Tracy before him.

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  • Reply 28 of 40
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    roly wrote: »
    I still don't get why people claim nobody wears a watch anymore. There are plenty of people who do.

    Exactly. People who are saying no one wears watches likely have the fashion sense of a four year old. That's like saying necklaces are useless. Duh! Is a timex any less functional than a Rolex, movado, or tag?

    You look at Hollywood and what is trendy- and people wear watches. You watch politicians who have a staff of people that dress them- they wear watches. CEOs? Sports owners? Moguls? Watches. Y'all keep wearing your jorts with your socks and sandals.
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  • Reply 29 of 40
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
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    If they are serious about it being an exercise device, then the only way to charge it should be by moving your arms.




    Or by harvesting body heat - we radiate a fair amount of thermal energy from our metabolism.

     

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    I still don't get why people claim nobody wears a watch anymore. There are plenty of people who do.



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    Exactly. People who are saying no one wears watches likely have the fashion sense of a four year old. That's like saying necklaces are useless. Duh! Is a timex any less functional than a Rolex, movado, or tag?



    You look at Hollywood and what is trendy- and people wear watches. You watch politicians who have a staff of people that dress them- they wear watches. CEOs? Sports owners? Moguls? Watches. Y'all keep wearing your jorts with your socks and sandals.


    The percentage of people wearing watches has declined significantly over the last 10 years. That's just a fact. I know I'm happy to be liberated from mine since I have a device that does that and so much more near me all the time. 



    http://today.yougov.com/news/2011/05/05/brother-do-you-have-time/



    So it would take a bunch of tangible, added benefits to get something back on my wrist.  Maybe the health monitor aspects might be one reason...  ...but Apple's primary demo isn't old farts with HBP and other conditions they're the most prone to, so the marketing and feature set would be tricky, especially given that inexpensive fitness monitors are already plentiful and the phone itself can do some of this already.

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  • Reply 30 of 40
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    andysol wrote: »
    Exactly. People who are saying no one wears watches likely have the fashion sense of a four year old. That's like saying necklaces are useless. Duh! Is a timex any less functional than a Rolex, movado, or tag?

    You look at Hollywood and what is trendy- and people wear watches. You watch politicians who have a staff of people that dress them- they wear watches. CEOs? Sports owners? Moguls? Watches. Y'all keep wearing your jorts with your socks and sandals.

    Although iPhone owners like to pretend that only the very rich buy iPhones. It's the middle classes and up. There isn't a huge revenue in the CEO and Gangster market, unless you sell them 100k watches made of gold n shit.

    CEO Steve jobs, who didn't wear a watch, opposed the idea that watches are a market. Normal watches anyway. Maybe Apple will reinvent the market.
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  • Reply 31 of 40
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
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    Yes, and that brings up another point. Prior art. Agent Smart had this years ago. 


     

    By George I think that's it - the next place the competition isn't: 

     

    Apple's bringing back the shoe phone... ...and it will be recharged by the compression of the heel as we walk....

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  • Reply 32 of 40
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    Although iPhone owners like to pretend that only the very rich buy iPhones. It's the middle classes and up. There isn't a huge revenue in the CEO and Gangster market, unless you sell them 100k watches made of gold n shit.



    CEO Steve jobs, who didn't wear a watch, opposed the idea that watches are a market. Normal watches anyway. Maybe Apple will reinvent the market.

     

    If indeed there is some form of phone component to this watch then there will be a $10K app that you can buy for CEOs and gangstas. The CEO app will cause the watch to vibrate and various CEO and celebrity names will appear on the watch for everyone to see. The phone will automatically answer these calls, answering the fake caller by name,  saying 1. You are in a meeting and will get back to you soon, 2. Will meet you at the club as planned, 3. Meet you on the greens etc.  The gangsta app will vibrate and show encoded names and numbers on the face and will automatically answer with encoded messages.

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  • Reply 33 of 40
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    By George I think that's it - the next place the competition isn't: 

     

    Apple's bringing back the shoe phone... ...and it will be recharged by the compression of the heel as we walk....


     

    Just bring back Agent 99.

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  • Reply 34 of 40

    Not up to integrating technology under the skin so...

    If it is the wrist then:

    voice activated/ solor or other charging devise/ signal tranmitter & receiver.

    voice will activate "hologram" of your iPhone or iPad, etc.

    from that "hologram" visual you can make a

    phone call/play music or even view & maybe update your notes/calendar/view a movie/play a game.

    With a "hologram" type devise you don't need to wear a tank size watch like the old Casios but the visual will be a size that couldn't be worn on wrist.

     

    just some thoughts

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  • Reply 35 of 40
    I wonder when batteries will be truly revolutionised. I would love to have an iPhone that I knew wouldn't run out in a day, regardless of what I did with it-like playing the most demanding game for sixteen hours with tons of stuff going on in the background.

    For all the technological advances that have been made this century, batteries still seem like a throwback to decades ago-a bit like tv.
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  • Reply 36 of 40
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    I wonder when batteries will be truly revolutionised. I would love to have an iPhone that I knew wouldn't run out in a day, regardless of what I did with it-like playing the most demanding game for sixteen hours with tons of stuff going on in the background.



    For all the technological advances that have been made this century, batteries still seem like a throwback to decades ago-a bit like tv.

     

    We're all waiting for the cold fusion phone.

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  • Reply 37 of 40
    We're all waiting for the cold fusion phone.

    Care to expand?
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  • Reply 38 of 40
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    Care to expand?

     

    Hell no... the last time I did that was when I ate beans and cabbage at the company picnic... and my Wife was ready to divorce me by morning.

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  • Reply 39 of 40
    Hell no... the last time I did that was when I ate beans and cabbage at the company picnic... and my Wife was ready to divorce me by morning.

    :)
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  • Reply 40 of 40
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    bigpics wrote: »

    The percentage of people wearing watches has declined significantly over the last 10 years. That's just a fact. I know I'm happy to be liberated from mine since I have a device that does that and so much more near me all the time. 

    Ya ya ya. But do you wear Jorts? ;)
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