Blockchain CEO calls Apple 'gatekeeper to innovation,' says Bitcoin app removal signals payments pus

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  • Reply 121 of 196
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    Originally Posted by basjhj View Post

     

     

    I suspect that John C. Biggins, of Flatbush National Bank, is already dead (http://bit.ly/1o7ECov). But I'm sure he wouldn't have mind to give an interview to you around 1947. Sheesh...


     

    So what did he say in an interview that would drastically change our view of credit cards today? Nothing.


     


    What could Satoshi Nakamoto say in an interview that would drastically change our view of bitcoin today? Nothing.


     


    And as for Sog35:


    What possible economic reason does Apple have for allowing fart apps, zit popping apps, poo tracking apps, lightsaber apps? Hint: there doesn't need to be one.


     


    As for risks associated with bitcoin - what's the one you're actually concerned about?


     


    Pyramid/Ponzi scheme - false by design, or you just don't understand what a Ponzi or pyramid scheme actually entails


    Illegality - Only illegal in Russia. Iceland has capital export laws meaning you can't buy bitcoins from overseas, but their use within Iceland is legal. So just block from the Russian app store like they do with other regional apps.

      Volatility - why is this Apple's concern?

      No backing if someone steals your coins - what do you do if someone steals your wallet? Run to the bank and try to get your $100 bills back?

      What if someone raids your account - this is one area that you may have some point, but why is this any of Apple's concern? Apple doesn't compensate you if your Lloyds bank account gets hacked. Lloyds does.

     

    Go on - what actual risk is there to Apple of accepting bitcoin wallets? It's trivial to demonstrate that an app doesn't need a positive economic case before being accepted, so why be hypocritical and require bitcoin to have one?

  • Reply 122 of 196
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post





    You do realize Windows had 90% of the market. iOS doesn't have even half of that (or so the media says)

    They do on iPad, once you count the fact that the "white box" tablets are probably just an IDC marketing ploy.  iPads are replacing the entire PC market, really I see Apple as being in a stronger position than Microsoft was back when.



    Microsoft is in a terrible spot since the PC market is dying.   Google is in a terrible spot since the PC market is dying, and Samsung and Apple have the opportunity to grab all of the mobile advertising revenue and cut Google off at the knees.   Apple and Amazon are going to kill all their competition, I just don't see how they can fail to dominate.

  • Reply 123 of 196
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    Don't spread FUD. Homosexuality was decriminalized in Russia in 1993.




    Then Apple blocked Grindr in Russia because they hate gays personally?



    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/05/gay_hook_up_app_russia_block/



    Being gay itself may not be illegal in Russia, but a search for "Russian anti-gay laws" returns a lot of results.



    http://www.thewrap.com/stephen-colbert-russia-anti-gay-laws-youd-expect-putin-cover-manholes-video/

     

  • Reply 124 of 196
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    Originally Posted by e1618978 View Post

     

    Then Apple blocked Grindr in Russia because they hate gays personally?



    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/05/gay_hook_up_app_russia_block/



    Being gay itself may not be illegal in Russia, but a search for "Russian anti-gay laws" returns a lot of results.



    http://www.thewrap.com/stephen-colbert-russia-anti-gay-laws-youd-expect-putin-cover-manholes-video/

     


    Just pointing out factually that you stated a falsehood -- or made an ignorant statement -- earlier, that's all. You post (quoted above) is just irrelevant CYA.

     

    So why should we assume anything better when it comes to bitcoins, from you?

  • Reply 125 of 196
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    e1618978 wrote: »
    They do on iPad, once you count the fact that the "white box" tablets are probably just an IDC marketing ploy.  iPads are replacing the entire PC market, really I see Apple as being in a stronger position than Microsoft was back when.


    Microsoft is in a terrible spot since the PC market is dying.   Google is in a terrible spot since the PC market is dying, and Samsung and Apple have the opportunity to grab all of the mobile advertising revenue and cut Google off at the knees.   Apple and Amazon are going to kill all their competition, I just don't see how they can fail to dominate.

    And if you remove all non- iOS devices, Apple has 100% market share. That's what the basis of your argument is: Changing the market to suit your statistics. You wanna use bit coin on mobile devices, get an Android. "Problem" solved.
  • Reply 126 of 196
    pfisherpfisher Posts: 758member
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    Originally Posted by jlandd View Post

     

     

    Wow.   I mean, I like my Apple stuff but they don't have nearly enough control over my life that I have ceded it to them by a long shot.  Who would rely on living via Apple so completely that every time Apple makes a left turn they feel like they've been left out in the desert?   If you've been ordering cat food via some company's IOS app and they don't continue updating it through the next OS are you going to jump off a bridge because instead of going dit dit dit on your iPhone you'll have to call in the order?

     

    It's a big world out there.  Go for a walk.  Talk to some friends.  Take a drive.  Leave your iPad home.  That might be all the exercising of control you need.


     

    Apple sucks balls. Okay?

     

    I've been following Apple and using their products since 1979.

     

    I have major problems with one MacBook working with AppleTV and the other. Also, have problems playing DVDs though AppleTV. And AppleTV being slow with Youtube.

     

    I could go on.

     

    Tim, wake the F up and get your software division waked the F' up.

     

    Also, I OS 7 looks like crap.

     

    Owner of Apple TV, 3 MacBooks, 5 iPhones, and an Apple Ipad Mini.

  • Reply 127 of 196
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    pfisher wrote: »
    Also, have problems playing DVDs though AppleTV. And AppleTV being slow with Youtube.

    Are these YouTube videos you burned to a DVD then tried to play through the AppleTV?
  • Reply 128 of 196
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    As an Englishman, I'm embarrassed by people like pete borota. The strength of anti-Apple sentiment in England is one of the worst traits of my nationality.

     

    As a Britisher I am not at all embarrassed by Pete Borata's comment. Whereas I do not agree with his comment I believe he is entitled to his opinion and I resent making his comments a personal insult. By all means criticize the content of his post but please layoff the person.

    BTW can't I sell a product by bypassing the apple app store? Don't profess to be an Apple nerd just own the stock because I believe it is incredible value. Time will let if I am right. BTW I am NOT a bitcoin fan and won't even take the time to research them. When it becomes legal tender, I will be glad to look into it

  • Reply 129 of 196
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    pfisher wrote: »
    Apple sucks balls. Okay?

    I've been following Apple and using their products since 1979.

    Which is unverifiable by others and not that important to the complaint, IMO.
    I have major problems with one MacBook working with AppleTV and the other. Also, have problems playing DVDs though AppleTV. And AppleTV being slow with Youtube.

    I have to question this "playing DVDs" bit. AppleTV wasn't marketed as being able to playing DVDs at all. To complain about a product's inability to do something that's not an officially supported feature is unseemly.
    Also, I OS 7 looks like crap.

    Not a big fan myself.
    Owner of Apple TV, 3 MacBooks, 5 iPhones, and an Apple Ipad Mini.

    Or, could be concern troll. A difference of opinion on style is valid, and I think the YouTube complaint is possibly valid, I haven't tried that feature lately. The rest of the complaints? eh.
  • Reply 130 of 196
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Rightly or wrongly, governments are banning Bitcoin and prosecuting Bitcoin exchange operators, among other things. It's more likely that Apple is trying to stay on the right side of the law(s).
  • Reply 131 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    Read it. Same result.

     

    Obviously you didn’t.

     

    Apple have removed all BitCoin apps from their App Store, blocking users from using BitCoin in a native app on their platform. Apple have placed roadblocks in the way of users using BitCoin.


     

    I never said anything against any of that. But you’d know that if you read the post.

     

    The web isn't Apples platform, so web apps don't count. 


     

    Ladies and gentlemen, our first round draft pick for XLS.

  • Reply 132 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Ok, sure, you never said
    And Apple’s blocking Bitcoin from their… Oh, wait, they’re not, are they?

    I don't know what you mean by XLS, but I'll take the comment as a compliment and admittance that you wrote hastily and don't read think through your comment.
  • Reply 133 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    Ok, sure, you never said

     

    That they’re blocking it from their platform. Because they’re not.

     
    I don’t know what you mean by XLS…

     

    You’re moving the goalposts. I’ll say again.

  • Reply 134 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    That they’re blocking it from their platform. Because they’re not.
    Removing it from the App Store is basically equivalent to that.

    Would you not say that Apple block pornography from their platform, or politically controversial content?

    Yes, yes, you can get to it via Safari or other web-centric apps, but the web isn't Apple's platform, and using web apps offers less power, speed and integration, so it's a less convenient solution, as was the main thrust of my point.
  • Reply 135 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    Arguing with you about semantic niggles is very irritating.

     

    Arguing with you about what you constantly pretend is semantics is what’s irritating.

  • Reply 136 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Good comeback.

    Perhaps when your arguments have more sophistication than:

    i) you said the magic word so you're a troll
    ii) you said something that doesn't conform to the dictionary definition that I'm choosing to use, so your whole argument is invalid
    iii) shut up and go away

    then we can have a proper debate about something.
  • Reply 137 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    then we can have a proper debate about something.

     

    There’s my laugh for today.

     

    Interesting to know you support England leaving the United Kingdom, though.

  • Reply 138 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    I'd ask you what the hell you're talking about, as I don't think that at all, but I really don't care about your delusions and nonsense.
  • Reply 139 of 196
    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

    Id ask you what the hell youre talking about, as I dont think that at all...

     

    Well, since you get to pretend that others have said things they haven’t, it’s only fair.

     

    …but I really don’t care about your delusions and nonsense. 


     

    Stop replying with lies, then.

  • Reply 140 of 196
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Yeah, fight your imagined lies with real ones, that's a great strategy; I'm confident it'll be as successful as your anti-troll crusade. I don't think you really know what lying is, you throw the accusation around so often.

    Since we could trade insults for the rest of the evening, that's the end of me on the subject, so make your last word a good one.
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