Judge denies Samsung new trial despite 'troubling' Apple appeal to prejudice

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  • Reply 61 of 69
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    Originally Posted by rcfa View Post





    Should be considered a matter of national security given that we all know how important propaganda

     

    Imagine war breaks out in the Far East. Supply for LCDs are destroyed. Want a cell phone? Want a TV? Want a laptop? Want a new computer? Want a new car? Want to build an airplane, civilian or military? Want a printer or digital camera? Think about it.

     

    In 1999, there was a major Taiwan earthquake that caused the disruption of that country's DRAM production for several months... RAM prices tripled.

  • Reply 62 of 69
    droidftw wrote: »
    According to Tim Cook it has nothing to do with cheap slave like labor, but that the skilled labor is over in China and not here in the US.  Apparently Americans don't have the skills to perform jobs which are traditionally considered unskilled labor.

    Source:  http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/06/15708290-apple-ceo-tim-cook-announces-plans-to-manufacture-mac-computers-in-usa?lite

    I would have to agree with your view over Tim Cook's.

    To say that Americans don't want to work in factories is complete bullshit. Go to Detroit or Dayton and you'll find 1000s of workers who'd jump at those jobs, if there were any jobs. The factories closed and moved to Mexico and then Asia a long time ago because of dirt cheap labor. To say that there's no skilled labor in the US is only half bullshit, but still bullshit. It's only true in the fact that it takes factories to train workers. No factories, no skilled workers. It isn't as if Asians are born with the skills.

    Now, if you want to talk willingness to work, then we have a more sensitive issue. In most of asia there aren't unions or laws that protect workers nor is there a minimum wage. So they either take this shitty job or that one. It's the unions, god love em, that drove the jobs out of the US, because factory owners are immoral and unethical and only care about the bottom line. It's a disease called greed what's killing us all. Blame wall st.

    But what's this got to do with Korean IP theft and racism? China and korea have been stealing IP for decades. They've compromised the American market beyond the point of repair. Samsung crossed the line five years ago. Appeals to prejudice are more than acceptable here. Are the American courts not allowed to protect American companies? Korean courts certainly protect Koreans.
  • Reply 63 of 69
    clemynxclemynx Posts: 1,552member
    That statement by Apple attorneys is defending American companies, but I don't see it as being prejudicing. It's not like they are saying that foreign companies are worse than American ones.
  • Reply 64 of 69
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    timmydax wrote: »
    Hooray for Xenophobia and Racism!

    Good job Apple :-/

    Manufacturing went away from "the west" because people don't want to work in factories! In other countries the people have little choice. The west increases that pressure all the time. It's certainly a sad state of affairs, but not for Americans. TVs are no longer made in America? That's the whole point! Americans don't want to make TVs!

    It has nothing at all to do with Americans not wanting to work in factories or workers not wanting to make televisions. It has everything to do with the American companies exporting manufacturing to other countries to lower their manufacturing costs in order to increase their profit margins, and failing to be competitive in features and pricing when imported televisions from non-American companies got into the American market.

    This was active participation by American companies, not some kind of intellectual property theft. Luckily back then the state of "intellectual property" and patents hadn't yet gotten to the utterly insane condition it's in now.
  • Reply 65 of 69
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    Imagine war breaks out in the Far East. Supply for LCDs are destroyed. etc etc.


    Companies are smarter than you think.

     

    This is why they employ Chief Risk Officers.

  • Reply 66 of 69
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member

    Look at the very top of any of the official legal documents from this case.  It's points out that it's Apple Inc versus Samsung, Ltd. "a Korean company," Samsung America incorporated in the US, and some third version.  Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to make comments about Samsung Korea (the first defendant).

  • Reply 67 of 69
    eluardeluard Posts: 319member

    I thought the closing arguments were spot on and not in the least bit "troubling". Defend IP vigorously or the last thing that is made in the West will disappear, and with it any prosperity that we have. That is the very real point of all these cases. Google's idea is to give away theirs and others' intellectual property so as to make a killing on the ads. And they are loved by the young who do not want to pay for anything they don't have to.

     

    Bribe people with other people's stuff that you have stolen and now give away. That is the YouTube model; it's Google's model entirely. And it plays into the waiting hands of Samsung who clone anything they can get their hands on.

  • Reply 68 of 69
    mknoppmknopp Posts: 257member
    If people are going to play the race card then I wish they would at least get it right.

    There was nothing racist about that statement. It was certainly nationalistic and *was* meant to influence the jury into protecting an American company against the outsider, but it wasn't racist.
  • Reply 69 of 69
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    Originally Posted by Eluard View Post

     

    I thought the closing arguments were spot on and not in the least bit "troubling". Defend IP vigorously or the last thing that is made in the West will disappear, and with it any prosperity that we have. That is the very real point of all these cases. Google's idea is to give away theirs and others' intellectual property so as to make a killing on the ads. And they are loved by the young who do not want to pay for anything they don't have to.

     

    Bribe people with other people's stuff that you have stolen and now give away. That is the YouTube model; it's Google's model entirely. And it plays into the waiting hands of Samsung who clone anything they can get their hands on.


     

     

    For Australians, Red China is "the West"?! 

     

    LOL

     

    Prosperity in the "the West" is dependent on the iPhone?

     

    LOL

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