Back to the topic. My company will deny network access to devices that aren't upgraded by March. I'm sure other companies are doing the same. I want to see what kind of spike would happen this weekend.
Well that's a company that reacts fast to tech news, good.
Well, they're not the only responsible for sure. I hear the Galaxy S4 won't receive the KitKat update in Europe! I find this scandalous, really.
Side note : why does Safari crash on my iPad every time I have two pages of AI at the same time?
You can't have two pages open at the same time in Safari on iOS. You probably mean you have two tabs open. The reason Safari is crashing is because you have two tabs open. Reduce it to one tab to stop the crashing.
You can't have two pages open at the same time in Safari on iOS. You probably mean you have two tabs open. The reason Safari is crashing is because you have two tabs open. Reduce it to one tab to stop the crashing.
A single tab? Do you have the same crashing issue with multiple tabs open in other browsers?
A single tab? Do you have the same crashing issue with multiple tabs open in other browsers?
I only use Safari and rarely have any crashes in Safari, even on my ageing iPad 2. If I do, it's because of some particularly badly coded site and so I leave the site.
If you're having problems with AppleInsider, I suggest you use their iOS app. I haven't had a single crash with it on iPhone or iPad.
Why does it bother you? You updated, right? It's available so users need to download and update.
I think he's talking about the lack of awareness of how potentially bad this hole is. Even on Apple-focused tech forums people don't seem to be aware of how and when your data could have been compromised between your device and the server.
BTW, a particularly straight-forward answer was offered by Google's Pinchar at MWC when he fielded a question about Android malware: " We cannot guarantee that Android is designed to be safe, the format was designed to give more freedom. When people talk about 90% of malware for Android, they must of course take into account the fact that it is the most popular operating system in the world. If I had a company dedicated to malware, I would also be addressing my attacks on Android."
He also noted that Nokia's new Android -derived OS for their Xphones serves as more proof of just how free Android is.
Well, they're not the only responsible for sure. I hear the Galaxy S4 won't receive the KitKat update in Europe! I find this scandalous, really.
I agree that manufacturer support is piss-poor, but trying to turn around and blame this on Google seems pretty rich. That'd be like blaming Apple because an app developer didn't update their software for the new iPhone. You can't assign responsibility for something a company has no control over.
I agree that manufacturer support is piss-poor, but trying to turn around and blame this on Google seems pretty rich. That'd be like blaming Apple because an app developer didn't update their software for the new iPhone. You can't assign responsibility for something a company has no control over.
Not a good analogy. If an app has an update, it'll be in iTunes and the user can update it at will. When Googs has an update, the user may not be able to update because Googs somehow doesn't have power to force it out. Google has that Open Alliance group and it appears they have no teeth.
Not a good analogy. If an app has an update, it'll be in iTunes and the user can update it at will. When Googs has an update, the user may not be able to update because Googs somehow doesn't have power to force it out. Google has that Open Alliance group and it appears they have no teeth.
You're mistaking the analogy. I'm not saying Google is analogous to Apple. I'm saying in this context, Samsung is analogous to an App Developer.
Apple puts out an update, App Developer must update their app and make it available for consumers
Google puts out an update, Manufacturers must update their firmware and make it available for consumers.
The blame always lies on the right hand side of those statements.
They can force them to use Google services so why can't they force them to upgrade Android when available?
So how was Nokia able to put a forked version of Android that doesn't use Google services on it's Nokia X line of phones? Furthermore Google services are baked into the OS.
So how was Nokia able to put a forked version of Android that doesn't use Google services on it's Nokia X line of phones? Furthermore Google services are baked into the OS.
Boeing also announced a new and highly secure phone today, the Boeing Black. Developed for governments, military corporations and others where security is a primary need, it's also based on Android. Google doesn't control it tho.
So how was Nokia able to put a forked version of Android that doesn't use Google services on it's Nokia X line of phones? Furthermore Google services are baked into the OS.
I'm not talking about forked versions of Android. Google services are "baked in" with a license agreement. Googs can easily add "you must also push any and all Android updates within 60 days of availability to end users for at least 18 months after device's initial release. "
I'm not talking about forked versions of Android. Google services are "baked in" with a license agreement. Googs can easily add "you must also push any and all Android updates within 60 days of availability to end users for at least 18 months after device's initial release. "
Yes that's always a option but seeing as to how Google can't even update their 2 yr old phone (Galaxy Nexus) to 4.4, how can one expect the other manufacturers to?
Boeing also announced a new and highly secure phone today, the Boeing Black. Developed for governments, military corporations and others where security is a primary need, it's also based on Android. Google doesn't control it tho.
But to be fair neither Nokia nor Boeing are part of the OHA.
Yes that's always a option but seeing as to how Google can't even update their 2 yr old phone (Galaxy Nexus) to 4.4, how can one expect the other manufacturers to?
But to be fair neither Nokia nor Boeing are part of the OHA.
The point of the post is that rather than being a tightly controlled OS, restricted to very specific hardware builds, Android was designed to be freely used for a multitude of devices and hardware combinations.
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Well that's a company that reacts fast to tech news, good.
You can't have two pages open at the same time in Safari on iOS. You probably mean you have two tabs open. The reason Safari is crashing is because you have two tabs open. Reduce it to one tab to stop the crashing.
A single tab? Do you have the same crashing issue with multiple tabs open in other browsers?
I only use Safari and rarely have any crashes in Safari, even on my ageing iPad 2. If I do, it's because of some particularly badly coded site and so I leave the site.
If you're having problems with AppleInsider, I suggest you use their iOS app. I haven't had a single crash with it on iPhone or iPad.
Why does it bother you? You updated, right? It's available so users need to download and update.
I think he's talking about the lack of awareness of how potentially bad this hole is. Even on Apple-focused tech forums people don't seem to be aware of how and when your data could have been compromised between your device and the server.
" We cannot guarantee that Android is designed to be safe, the format was designed to give more freedom. When people talk about 90% of malware for Android, they must of course take into account the fact that it is the most popular operating system in the world. If I had a company dedicated to malware, I would also be addressing my attacks on Android."
He also noted that Nokia's new Android -derived OS for their Xphones serves as more proof of just how free Android is.
Well, they're not the only responsible for sure. I hear the Galaxy S4 won't receive the KitKat update in Europe! I find this scandalous, really.
I agree that manufacturer support is piss-poor, but trying to turn around and blame this on Google seems pretty rich. That'd be like blaming Apple because an app developer didn't update their software for the new iPhone. You can't assign responsibility for something a company has no control over.
Not a good analogy. If an app has an update, it'll be in iTunes and the user can update it at will. When Googs has an update, the user may not be able to update because Googs somehow doesn't have power to force it out. Google has that Open Alliance group and it appears they have no teeth.
You're mistaking the analogy. I'm not saying Google is analogous to Apple. I'm saying in this context, Samsung is analogous to an App Developer.
Apple puts out an update, App Developer must update their app and make it available for consumers
Google puts out an update, Manufacturers must update their firmware and make it available for consumers.
The blame always lies on the right hand side of those statements.
How do you suggest they do that? They didn't force the manufacturers to use Android so they can't force them to update.
They can force them to use Google services so why can't they force them to upgrade Android when available?
So how was Nokia able to put a forked version of Android that doesn't use Google services on it's Nokia X line of phones? Furthermore Google services are baked into the OS.
Boeing also announced a new and highly secure phone today, the Boeing Black. Developed for governments, military corporations and others where security is a primary need, it's also based on Android. Google doesn't control it tho.
I'm not talking about forked versions of Android. Google services are "baked in" with a license agreement. Googs can easily add "you must also push any and all Android updates within 60 days of availability to end users for at least 18 months after device's initial release. "
Yes that's always a option but seeing as to how Google can't even update their 2 yr old phone (Galaxy Nexus) to 4.4, how can one expect the other manufacturers to?
But to be fair neither Nokia nor Boeing are part of the OHA.
And that is why google is to blame.
The point of the post is that rather than being a tightly controlled OS, restricted to very specific hardware builds, Android was designed to be freely used for a multitude of devices and hardware combinations.