By Millions. There are too many useful features missing and unnecessary complexities in Pages and Numbers. Also when you are sending documents or spreadsheets to someone else, you want to be sure that it will retain formatting and fuctionality. Only MS Office can guarantee that.
Heck, even MS Office can't guarantee that, given its demonstrated problems with file support across platforms and/or versions.
Flag is not Flag for follow up. Apparently, you have never used Outlook, which is fine, but dragging an email from one app to the next is not optimal, nor the same functionality.
When iWork essentially became free, my hope was that would put pressure on Microsoft to lower the price of Office or at least stop them from moving to a subscription model. Having had more time to consider it, I've realized that Microsoft is now much more likely to just abandon individual customers and go all out with software as a service targeted at businesses. So while I'd probably buy a new version of Office 2014, chances are they're not going to let me...
I made the switch to iWork '09 some time ago and was satisfied. The new iWork is seriously deficient--I can't use it at all. If MS had had an earlier start, they might've taken advantage of this.
100% compatible unless those things that got deleted during import mattered to you.
And even then, 100% compatibility doesn't mean functional equivalency. Heck, the new Numbers won't even let me arrange my graph on a page preview.
What is good enough "for most people" is irrelevant to those who make decisions at Microsoft, because they aren't "most people", they're in the 1%. You demonstrate that you are not in the 1% with your coveting of the "free" price.
Word 4.0c was really good, Word 5.1 was darnn-near perfect. It's all been downhill from there.
cheap was what got biz to use Windows in the first place. One doesn't need 10k rows worth of data if they know how to communicate with a DBA.
I consider Keynote superior to Powerpoint when presenting but inferior when sharing with businesspeople. I love magic transitions for insightful animations of diagrams.
Excel is superior to Numbers. Having multiple tables in a page may look nice but does not help when you need serious numbercrunching. I rarely abuse Excel as reporting document. Only multiple pivots for extracting aggregated data.
Word is much better when you need structured formatting and styles with paragraphnumbering. Which applies to most corporate documents such as legal, finance, system specs and other lenghty text documents. Surely Pages can deliver nice looking commercial docs and all iWork apps handle multimedia much better.
So if you need serious work done I consider Office way better than iWorks (don't touch the clipfarts). But to pursuade and deliver best experience to your audience iWorks is my place to go (don't share it though).
I look forward to Office 365 integration in the coming upgrade. And will likely pay a subscription fee if upgrades are inclusive.
What does that even mean? Sounds like marketing to me. If you need serious work done... Oh give me a fucking break. Get over yourself. If you need "serious" work done it won't be done in an office suite that most 3rd graders can figure out in a few hours.
I have an Office 365 subscription and the old Office for Mac without Outlook (Home or something). I wonder if Microsoft will let me download the latest Office for Mac with this.
Probably not.
Anyway, I think the new CEO is trying to make Microsoft a player again and seems to not have the blind pig-headed hate for Apple like his predecessor.
He may just have a different vision. Focus on what MSFT is good at and sell to anyone who will buy it. Apple is a hardware company first. MSFT is a software company first.
one of the differentiators i first noticed betwixt ms and apple was that ms announced products and shipped them 'later this year' or 'next year'. apple announced products and shipped them immediately or very soon after announcement. that's still true. i think the original iphone was the first time i noticed a significant gap between announce and ship for an apple product, and justifiably so, imho. ms should change their corporate slogan to "coming soon ..."
The iPhone was announced in January 2007 and shipped at the end of June that year. Similarly the new Mac Pro had a roughly six month lag between its announcement and public release.
Oh give me a fucking break. Get over yourself. If you need "serious" work done it won't be done in an office suite that most 3rd graders can figure out in a few hours.
I don't think most 3rd graders can figure out an office suite in a few hours. I still come across Word documents with text indented by spaces instead of tabs, or Excel tables with blank columns or rows.
Take a break... You're welcome.
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Who in their right mind syncs business sensitive data to cloud services in the States? -or any cloud service for that matter
Apple will make an offer noone can resist !
So continue using the previous version that worked, until the updates to the newer version also work for you.
It's not like the new installer deleted the previous version of the iWork applications from your system.
By Millions. There are too many useful features missing and unnecessary complexities in Pages and Numbers. Also when you are sending documents or spreadsheets to someone else, you want to be sure that it will retain formatting and fuctionality. Only MS Office can guarantee that.
Heck, even MS Office can't guarantee that, given its demonstrated problems with file support across platforms and/or versions.
No?
Flag is not Flag for follow up. Apparently, you have never used Outlook, which is fine, but dragging an email from one app to the next is not optimal, nor the same functionality.
100% compatible unless those things that got deleted during import mattered to you.
And even then, 100% compatibility doesn't mean functional equivalency. Heck, the new Numbers won't even let me arrange my graph on a page preview.
What is good enough "for most people" is irrelevant to those who make decisions at Microsoft, because they aren't "most people", they're in the 1%. You demonstrate that you are not in the 1% with your coveting of the "free" price.
Word 4.0c was really good, Word 5.1 was darnn-near perfect. It's all been downhill from there.
cheap was what got biz to use Windows in the first place. One doesn't need 10k rows worth of data if they know how to communicate with a DBA.
I consider Keynote superior to Powerpoint when presenting but inferior when sharing with businesspeople. I love magic transitions for insightful animations of diagrams.
Excel is superior to Numbers. Having multiple tables in a page may look nice but does not help when you need serious numbercrunching. I rarely abuse Excel as reporting document. Only multiple pivots for extracting aggregated data.
Word is much better when you need structured formatting and styles with paragraphnumbering. Which applies to most corporate documents such as legal, finance, system specs and other lenghty text documents. Surely Pages can deliver nice looking commercial docs and all iWork apps handle multimedia much better.
So if you need serious work done I consider Office way better than iWorks (don't touch the clipfarts). But to pursuade and deliver best experience to your audience iWorks is my place to go (don't share it though).
I look forward to Office 365 integration in the coming upgrade. And will likely pay a subscription fee if upgrades are inclusive.
What does that even mean? Sounds like marketing to me. If you need serious work done... Oh give me a fucking break. Get over yourself. If you need "serious" work done it won't be done in an office suite that most 3rd graders can figure out in a few hours.
I have an Office 365 subscription and the old Office for Mac without Outlook (Home or something). I wonder if Microsoft will let me download the latest Office for Mac with this.
Probably not.
Anyway, I think the new CEO is trying to make Microsoft a player again and seems to not have the blind pig-headed hate for Apple like his predecessor.
He may just have a different vision. Focus on what MSFT is good at and sell to anyone who will buy it. Apple is a hardware company first. MSFT is a software company first.
one of the differentiators i first noticed betwixt ms and apple was that ms announced products and shipped them 'later this year' or 'next year'. apple announced products and shipped them immediately or very soon after announcement. that's still true. i think the original iphone was the first time i noticed a significant gap between announce and ship for an apple product, and justifiably so, imho. ms should change their corporate slogan to "coming soon ..."
The iPhone was announced in January 2007 and shipped at the end of June that year. Similarly the new Mac Pro had a roughly six month lag between its announcement and public release.
Take a break... You're welcome.