What the present offerings say about MWNY
from what i see Apple are beginning to play their cards
iBook: 100Mhz bus, XS: 133Mhz bus, PM: 133Mhz bus
iBook: 512Kb L2, XS: 256Kb, PM: 256Kb
XS: 2MB DDR RAM L3, PM: 2Mb DDR RAM L3
XS: 2GB DDR RAM, PM: 1.5GB PC133 SDRAM
iBook: AGP 2X, XS: AGP 4X, PM: AGP 4X
XS: ATA-100, PM: ATA-66(?)
from this, I can only predict the following for MWNY:
New Powermac G4!!
new case
1.4Ghz G4 (G5-ish additions, maybe 0.13)
1MB L2 + 4MB L3 cache
4GB DDR RAM
266Mhz bus (not THAT fast, but will suffice)
Hypertransport
Gigawire HDD system
AGP 8X
etc etc
and hopefully a new mouse and keyboard for the new case.
but that's just me
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[ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: g::masta ]</p>
iBook: 100Mhz bus, XS: 133Mhz bus, PM: 133Mhz bus
iBook: 512Kb L2, XS: 256Kb, PM: 256Kb
XS: 2MB DDR RAM L3, PM: 2Mb DDR RAM L3
XS: 2GB DDR RAM, PM: 1.5GB PC133 SDRAM
iBook: AGP 2X, XS: AGP 4X, PM: AGP 4X
XS: ATA-100, PM: ATA-66(?)
from this, I can only predict the following for MWNY:
New Powermac G4!!
new case
1.4Ghz G4 (G5-ish additions, maybe 0.13)
1MB L2 + 4MB L3 cache
4GB DDR RAM
266Mhz bus (not THAT fast, but will suffice)
Hypertransport
Gigawire HDD system
AGP 8X
etc etc
and hopefully a new mouse and keyboard for the new case.
but that's just me
G
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
edit: spelling
[ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: g::masta ]</p>
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1.0Ghz, 1.13Ghz, 1.26Ghz (7470 on .13micron
512k L2 on chip cache (per CPU)
4MB L3 DDR Cache (per CPU)
266Mhz DDR-RAM (FSB) (2GB MAX)
ATA-100
4X AGP (8X might come, but don't hold your breath)
Gigawire
Built in bluetooth
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<strong>PowerMac G4:1.0Ghz, 1.13Ghz, 1.26Ghz </strong><hr></blockquote>
Although I have to admit that a 1.4ghz would be nice this seems realistic. Though I would be (as would anyone here) happy over a 1.4ghz I wont get my hopes up too high for now. A slight price drop would be cool as well.
<strong>PowerMac G4:
1.0Ghz, 1.13Ghz, 1.26Ghz (7470 on .13micron
512k L2 on chip cache (per CPU)
4MB L3 DDR Cache (per CPU)
266Mhz DDR-RAM (FSB) (2GB MAX)
ATA-100
4X AGP (8X might come, but don't hold your breath)
Gigawire
Built in bluetooth
</strong><hr></blockquote>
You nailed the iBook specs. Perhaps you're correct about the Powermacs in July, too.
What do you think Apple will do enclosure-wise?
<strong>PowerMac G4:1.0Ghz, 1.13Ghz, 1.26Ghz</strong><hr></blockquote>
No dualies ???? New enclosure ????
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Along with new towers will come a new price tag. A brand new logic board and CPU architecture means lots of R&D money to make up for. Expect prices on towers to go North before they go South.
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You nailed the iBook specs. Perhaps you're correct about the Powermacs in July, too.
What do you think Apple will do enclosure-wise?
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i didn't exactly "nail" it per say....
i thought Apple was going to go 700Mhz across the board. Oh well, close enough.
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No dualies ???? New enclosure ???? <hr></blockquote>
Ah yes dualies....well, ive read over at Ars tech. that dualies can have a problem communicating with DDR, or something to that effect. Im sure Apple has it undercontrol and will offer some sort of Dualie system in July. (might be BTO though, just a pre-warning)
Enclosures....
well, logic would say that we are getting close to a new enclosure. But what it looks like or anything is way beyond me.
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Lets assume that the 7470 tops out at 1.4Ghz. Much like the 7400 topped out at 500Mhz. Lets look at two possible roads that apple could take.
1.)
assuming Motorola could crank them out fast enough, Apple could release a 1.4Ghz G4 in July. And we would all be happy little mac users. But then what would happen 6-7 months down the road when we start demanding faster G4's? Apple would be stuck waiting for Motorola to work out its next design G4 and then wait some more for it to Fab. This could quickly turn into the 500Mhz drought all over again.
2.)
Apple releases a 1.26Ghz G4. Most of us are happy. then 6-8 months down the road when we demand more speed, Apple can upgrade the tower to a 1.4Ghz G4.
by going down road 2, Apple is giving Motorola well over a year to design and fab the next generation PowerPC chip. (and Motorola needs all the time they can get) By going down road 1, Apple is only giving them 6 months.
So all of you wishing for 1.4Ghz G4's are just plain out of luck....sorry
Crap.
Orrr, it's CRAP!
It's crap...
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
The 7500 is rumoured to be around by January.
I'm guessing that will be 1.2 - 1.6 mhz G4.
Check out the Register web site and nose around.
They, like stuff on this board? Rumours...
PowerMac @ 933Mhz, 1Ghz, Dual 1.2Ghz
NVidia GForce 4Ti across the board AGP4
no ram changes
no storage changes
Minor Case revision
OS X 10.2 (whoop de doo . . .)
everything else the same
way beyond . . .
Go Spooky!
Yeah. Given the ibook 'bump' then the 'power' mac bump looks ominously set up for a big disappointment to 'G5' toting dreamers like myself.
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
with all the tech they pumped into the Xserve, i fail to believe that they won't surpass that in the PM. While i hear your argument for not releasing the 1.4, why wait till MWNY to simply release a new mobo, new system bus, new everything and then put in .. wait for it .. 1.26Ghz? apple would be the laughing stock (as if they weren't already) and we would not be satisfied at all.
but then again, this is just my optomism brimming forth like the fountain of joy .. *harps and violas playing in the background, beer flowing like .. .wine and nubile women dancing around in flowing transparent dresses* <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
So, 20%-30% speed bumped g4's, price drops, maybe SuperDrive 2, DDR RAM and Jagwire.
Apple has to have something to bang in January, and that would be a new Powermac. Until then, the company is actually doing quite well on it's own.
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