I totally disagree. These latest bumps were obviously just to tide us over, and to keep people from spazzing over laptops in July at MWNY. After the new kickass desktops are announced (probably including a bump in the iMac), I think a couple of months later we'll see completely redesigned portables (ibook and powerbook), with significant speedbumps.
Yes, this is wild speculation, but I think we'll see the ibook with an 800mhz G4, and the powerbook at 1ghz or so.
The Titanium was recently updated, a boost in clock speed, a new graphics chipset, and a new display...and a few changes in I/O ports if I recall correctly. It's not going to get another revision at MWNY!
Maybe before the end of this year, but I'd say we're more likely to see a major revision at MWSF, with a new G4 and maybe a DDR RAM muthaboard. The DDR RAM depends on whether or not the G4 supports a DDR frontside bus, if not, then it's unlikely that Apple will employ a DDR hack on the Titanium.
The current Powerbooks are b!tchin' computers...I sure wouldn't mind having one. Even compared to the Powermacs of about a year ago, these new Titaniums scream, the display rocks, and they have a video chipset worthy of a high end laptop and fully capable of driving a large external display at high resolution. Almost makes you want to rob a bank!
Edi: WTF? Why can't I use naughty language any more? Is this website catering to the family values freaks?
<strong>The Titanium was recently updated, a boost in clock speed, a new graphics chipset, and a new display...and a few changes in I/O ports if I recall correctly. It's not going to get another revision at MWNY!
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I reckon there's a chance it will. Despite being a BIG revision it was made with no fanfare at all.
I think we might see:
1Ghz+ CPU
DDR
Integrated Bluetooth
Superdrive
Either at MWNY or very soon after. Especially as Bluetooth/Superdrive were rumoured for this update. It's on promotion too.
If they could do a 4Ghz Powerbook tomorrow,... the liquid titanium created would melt a hole through the center of the Earth!
The production cycle is shrinking for the entire computer industry. It used to be that when Apple introduced a new product-it was in fact new. It used to be that Wintel took quite sometime to catch up to the Apple and by that time Apple was already on to the next newer and faster thing. As a die hard Apple supporter it bring me great pain to see the new line of Wintel laptops with DDR ram, 2Ghz Pentiums 4, 64 megs of DDR video ram, 15 inch screens- I could go on but i won't you get the message.
At this stage of the game Apple has got to put out a laptop that is not only better then the current ti book but is better then anything on the market regardless of price.
Organizations like Phillip Morris used to supply powerbooks to all thier employies because they were the best laptops in the industry, are they still?
For these reasons Apple must unleash a monster line up of computers this July, including a new powerbook !
well, I'll buy a powerbook/powermac when they hit their next major hardware revision (nothing short of a g5!). till then i'll stick with my p4 2.4jiggamahertz 512mb rdram system. it sucks not having OSX, but in my line of work/play mac hardware presently doesnt cut it.
Maybe in 12 months when I can afford to purchase a new system and my present one is showing its age, the g5 will be here.
- the same with build in SmartMedia-Card and Memory-stick
and the price is lower 1/3 in average than the current PowerBookline.
Therefore a significant update has to come very very soon.
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Well, hold on there chief!!
1-DDR chipsets have only been available in the PC laptop world for about 3 months. They only came about to support the Pentium 4 architecture. So far, all benchmarks have shown it to have a minimal effect on performance.
2- Find me a laptop available in the US with standard Bluetooth! I do not doubt that it exists, but is certainly far from mainstream at this point. As for what exactly you are going to do with this Bluetooth, we shall leave that to another discussion!
3- Find me a laptop with built in USB 2.0. Same as previous comments! Standard?? Me thinks not.
4- Memory Stick is a Sony only technology, no other manufactorer has these ports on their laptops. As for S-media, who cares! USB is faster!!
My point is this: There are many ways to fault Apple's current hardware offerings, they cost a lot of money, and should offer more cutting edge technology. However, lets not make the situation look worse with utter crap! Nothing personal!
1-DDR chipsets have only been available in the PC laptop world for about 3 months. They only came about to support the Pentium 4 architecture. So far, all benchmarks have shown it to have a minimal effect on performance.
2- Find me a laptop available in the US with standard Bluetooth! I do not doubt that it exists, but is certainly far from mainstream at this point. As for what exactly you are going to do with this Bluetooth, we shall leave that to another discussion!
3- Find me a laptop with built in USB 2.0. Same as previous comments! Standard?? Me thinks not.
4- Memory Stick is a Sony only technology, no other manufactorer has these ports on their laptops. As for S-media, who cares! USB is faster!!
My point is this: There are many ways to fault Apple's current hardware offerings, they cost a lot of money, and should offer more cutting edge technology. However, lets not make the situation look worse with utter crap! Nothing personal!
1. Benchmarks are relative measures, dependant on the testing procedure. Fact is that DDR technically results in double effective bandwidth and 1/2 the latency. This is important for timecritical apps (Multichannel SACD and Highresolution HD Recording and MIDI-Apps). OSX has the power to utilize this. It is not to much to demand such an underpinning in the powerbook-pricerange. I understand that Apple is not Sony, being able to play around with products.....
2. I don't know about the US, but the actual Toshiba laps and others e.g. in Germany offered by Saturn have the aformentioned features. Besides you like or dislike bluetooth (for what ever reason) it seems likely that it will be standard in a lot of devices within the next 6 to 9 months, at least over here this is a fact.
3. See 2.
4. Smart Media is standard on the most devices for images.
Conclusively it appears that the most aforementioned features (except for maybe MemStick) don't seem to be that much "utter crap". It is legitimate to demand the best tech in the proleague which is the Powerbook targeted at.
That we get the things right: I think that Apple has despite its Marketshare done very well in the last 24 Months, especially with changing the operating system (very dangerous indeed). Now the hardware should be ready to follow.
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who not ?
Yes, this is wild speculation, but I think we'll see the ibook with an 800mhz G4, and the powerbook at 1ghz or so.
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MWNY in July.
July.
Maybe before the end of this year, but I'd say we're more likely to see a major revision at MWSF, with a new G4 and maybe a DDR RAM muthaboard. The DDR RAM depends on whether or not the G4 supports a DDR frontside bus, if not, then it's unlikely that Apple will employ a DDR hack on the Titanium.
The current Powerbooks are b!tchin' computers...I sure wouldn't mind having one. Even compared to the Powermacs of about a year ago, these new Titaniums scream, the display rocks, and they have a video chipset worthy of a high end laptop and fully capable of driving a large external display at high resolution. Almost makes you want to rob a bank!
Edi: WTF? Why can't I use naughty language any more? Is this website catering to the family values freaks?
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<strong>The Titanium was recently updated, a boost in clock speed, a new graphics chipset, and a new display...and a few changes in I/O ports if I recall correctly. It's not going to get another revision at MWNY!
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I reckon there's a chance it will. Despite being a BIG revision it was made with no fanfare at all.
I think we might see:
- 1Ghz+ CPU
- DDR
- Integrated Bluetooth
- Superdrive
Either at MWNY or very soon after. Especially as Bluetooth/Superdrive were rumoured for this update. It's on promotion too.Either way, I'm saving!
maybe in the fall?
<strong>Sure about that? DDR and 1 gig seem big for an update that would occur only 3 months after the last update.
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I'm as sure as anybody!
But I don't buy the idea that Apple won't do stuff simply because it's a huge jump from what exists now.
If they could do a 4Ghz Powerbook tomorrow, we'd see it at MWNY! Same goes for the G5, iPad and iCam.
The production cycle is shrinking for the entire computer industry. It used to be that when Apple introduced a new product-it was in fact new. It used to be that Wintel took quite sometime to catch up to the Apple and by that time Apple was already on to the next newer and faster thing. As a die hard Apple supporter it bring me great pain to see the new line of Wintel laptops with DDR ram, 2Ghz Pentiums 4, 64 megs of DDR video ram, 15 inch screens- I could go on but i won't you get the message.
At this stage of the game Apple has got to put out a laptop that is not only better then the current ti book but is better then anything on the market regardless of price.
Organizations like Phillip Morris used to supply powerbooks to all thier employies because they were the best laptops in the industry, are they still?
For these reasons Apple must unleash a monster line up of computers this July, including a new powerbook !
Maybe in 12 months when I can afford to purchase a new system and my present one is showing its age, the g5 will be here.
cheers,
Justin
- DDR-RAM IS standard in the most 15" notebooks
- the same with build in bluetooth
- the same with build in USB 2.0
- the same with build in TWO firewireports
- the same with build in SmartMedia-Card and Memory-stick
and the price is lower 1/3 in average than the current PowerBookline.
Therefore a significant update has to come very very soon.
- DDR-RAM IS standard in the most 15" notebooks
- the same with build in bluetooth
- the same with build in USB 2.0
- the same with build in TWO firewireports
- the same with build in SmartMedia-Card and Memory-stick
and the price is lower 1/3 in average than the current PowerBookline.
Therefore a significant update has to come very very soon.
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Well, hold on there chief!!
1-DDR chipsets have only been available in the PC laptop world for about 3 months. They only came about to support the Pentium 4 architecture. So far, all benchmarks have shown it to have a minimal effect on performance.
2- Find me a laptop available in the US with standard Bluetooth! I do not doubt that it exists, but is certainly far from mainstream at this point. As for what exactly you are going to do with this Bluetooth, we shall leave that to another discussion!
3- Find me a laptop with built in USB 2.0. Same as previous comments! Standard?? Me thinks not.
4- Memory Stick is a Sony only technology, no other manufactorer has these ports on their laptops. As for S-media, who cares! USB is faster!!
My point is this: There are many ways to fault Apple's current hardware offerings, they cost a lot of money, and should offer more cutting edge technology. However, lets not make the situation look worse with utter crap! Nothing personal!
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1-DDR chipsets have only been available in the PC laptop world for about 3 months. They only came about to support the Pentium 4 architecture. So far, all benchmarks have shown it to have a minimal effect on performance.
2- Find me a laptop available in the US with standard Bluetooth! I do not doubt that it exists, but is certainly far from mainstream at this point. As for what exactly you are going to do with this Bluetooth, we shall leave that to another discussion!
3- Find me a laptop with built in USB 2.0. Same as previous comments! Standard?? Me thinks not.
4- Memory Stick is a Sony only technology, no other manufactorer has these ports on their laptops. As for S-media, who cares! USB is faster!!
My point is this: There are many ways to fault Apple's current hardware offerings, they cost a lot of money, and should offer more cutting edge technology. However, lets not make the situation look worse with utter crap! Nothing personal!
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1. Benchmarks are relative measures, dependant on the testing procedure. Fact is that DDR technically results in double effective bandwidth and 1/2 the latency. This is important for timecritical apps (Multichannel SACD and Highresolution HD Recording and MIDI-Apps). OSX has the power to utilize this. It is not to much to demand such an underpinning in the powerbook-pricerange. I understand that Apple is not Sony, being able to play around with products.....
2. I don't know about the US, but the actual Toshiba laps and others e.g. in Germany offered by Saturn have the aformentioned features. Besides you like or dislike bluetooth (for what ever reason) it seems likely that it will be standard in a lot of devices within the next 6 to 9 months, at least over here this is a fact.
3. See 2.
4. Smart Media is standard on the most devices for images.
Conclusively it appears that the most aforementioned features (except for maybe MemStick) don't seem to be that much "utter crap". It is legitimate to demand the best tech in the proleague which is the Powerbook targeted at.
That we get the things right: I think that Apple has despite its Marketshare done very well in the last 24 Months, especially with changing the operating system (very dangerous indeed). Now the hardware should be ready to follow.