Netscape 6.2 on Windows. I'd use Opera, which rules on Windows despite the trauma-inducing documents-in-window interface, but I'm not paying for a browser on my work machine.
OmniWeb 4.1sp<whatever-the-latest-is> on OS X.
IE infuriates me on both platforms for some reasons.
Netscape 6.0 really blew. But 6.2 is so different. Like night and day.
Page caching is still slower than IE. Hitting the back button it will take one or two seconds to back to the previous page. In IE, it's done instanly. But only one second...I don't care
<strong>Netscape 6.0 really blew. But 6.2 is so different. Like night and day.
Page caching is still slower than IE. Hitting the back button it will take one or two seconds to back to the previous page. In IE, it's done instanly. But only one second...I don't care
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Leonis ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
NS blew it with 3.0, totally botching up hypertext markup. Then they blew it with 4.0, with more of the same mistakes (but worse), along with a very, very bad browser and interface. Then they blew it with Mozilla, "too many cooks on the pot" syndrome, and trying to be everything to everyone--on every platform. The actual NS 6 was a huge disappointment. Even in 6.2, the interface is just disgusting. And they're 0wned by AOL. Facts are, people aren't using Netscape anymore--and websites get designed for browsers--so by using any form of Netscape you're putting yourself at a disadvantage.
Also, agreed, Opera's MDI is really terrible.
OmniWeb is great as an OS X application, but is not so hot as a browser. Slow and flawed HTML and CSS rendering, with incomplete standards support, and just generally suboptimal performance with complex tables and large amounts of images, as well as HUGE lack of plug-in support, really cripples the browser side. Not only that, but it's shareware. I'm not going to pay for a stinkin' browser. They've been free for years. If Omni released OmniWeb as a free browser, I would think about buying a piece of their real software (like OmniGraffle, a nice app)--but I don't think I will because they are so money-grubbing. Silly OmniGroup.
Omniweb is free. It does not expire at all. But if you want to pay for it (which I did) then you don't have the rather unobtrusive "unregistered" flash up on your window infrequently.
<strong>Omniweb is free. It does not expire at all. But if you want to pay for it (which I did) then you don't have the rather unobtrusive "unregistered" flash up on your window infrequently.
This is coming from 4.1sp10.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Omniweb is not free. It is shareware. Not only does it flash "unlicensed" on top of your windows on a daily basis, sometimes even hourly if you let your OW windows sit for a while, but it has messages that pop up every few weeks or so, as well as with every new installation or sneaky peek, asking you to register it, or use "unlicensed." I can deal with it, sure, but the principle that they want me to pay for it when I can get so many other browsers as cheaply as air, other browsers with fuller featuresets, or better performance, or more standards support, is the issue.
Anything else just isn't good. Microsoft = quality and speed, the other browsers are just overrated pieces of crap. We'd be better off with a monopoly on browsers so sites work the same for everyone. Why bother having 3 browsers on the same computer ? Half won't work properly with Netscape anyways and Omniweb does this funky anti aliasing that hurts my eyes. Lay off the crack guys and make something good and on par with Microsoft already.
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At least use Mozilla 0.9.5!
Me:
IE 6 on PC
OmniWeb 4.1sp10 on MacOSX.1
I really can not bring my self to use Netscape. As much as I love them, they blew it with Netscape 6.0
OmniWeb 4.1sp<whatever-the-latest-is> on OS X.
IE infuriates me on both platforms for some reasons.
Page caching is still slower than IE. Hitting the back button it will take one or two seconds to back to the previous page. In IE, it's done instanly. But only one second...I don't care
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
I do like OmniWeb and when it becomes a little more full-featured and complete, I could see myself using it more.
<strong>Netscape 6.0 really blew. But 6.2 is so different. Like night and day.
Page caching is still slower than IE. Hitting the back button it will take one or two seconds to back to the previous page. In IE, it's done instanly. But only one second...I don't care
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Leonis ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
What is so differnt about the 2? Speed?
I don't even want to talk about NS 6.0, it really blew
When comes to IE 5.1 vs NS 6.2
Loading pages:
Under OS X. IE is faster
Under OS 9. NS is faster
"Backing" pages:
IE is faster under both X and 9
App Launching
IE is faster under both X and 9
But NS 6.2 in general is A LOT more stable under either X or 9.2....at least on my machine.
[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
Also, agreed, Opera's MDI is really terrible.
OmniWeb is great as an OS X application, but is not so hot as a browser. Slow and flawed HTML and CSS rendering, with incomplete standards support, and just generally suboptimal performance with complex tables and large amounts of images, as well as HUGE lack of plug-in support, really cripples the browser side. Not only that, but it's shareware. I'm not going to pay for a stinkin' browser. They've been free for years. If Omni released OmniWeb as a free browser, I would think about buying a piece of their real software (like OmniGraffle, a nice app)--but I don't think I will because they are so money-grubbing. Silly OmniGroup.
This is coming from 4.1sp10.
I use IE5 for forms and graphics when necessary but otherwise I use Wannabe for SPEED! Yeah Baby!
now, if only Wannabe had built in forms support...
(first AI post...weeee)
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<strong>Omniweb is free. It does not expire at all. But if you want to pay for it (which I did) then you don't have the rather unobtrusive "unregistered" flash up on your window infrequently.
This is coming from 4.1sp10.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Omniweb is not free. It is shareware. Not only does it flash "unlicensed" on top of your windows on a daily basis, sometimes even hourly if you let your OW windows sit for a while, but it has messages that pop up every few weeks or so, as well as with every new installation or sneaky peek, asking you to register it, or use "unlicensed." I can deal with it, sure, but the principle that they want me to pay for it when I can get so many other browsers as cheaply as air, other browsers with fuller featuresets, or better performance, or more standards support, is the issue.
<strong>Wow, I'm shocked, no hardcore web users!
I use IE5 for forms and graphics when necessary but otherwise I use Wannabe for SPEED! Yeah Baby!
now, if only Wannabe had built in forms support...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know if this is 'hardcore' but when I'm somewhere behind a lame proxy I shell into my box at home and use lynx
(lack of) css is wretched, but filtering is fantastic
omniweb or ns4.7 for the things iCab can't do
Anything else just isn't good. Microsoft = quality and speed, the other browsers are just overrated pieces of crap. We'd be better off with a monopoly on browsers so sites work the same for everyone. Why bother having 3 browsers on the same computer ? Half won't work properly with Netscape anyways and Omniweb does this funky anti aliasing that hurts my eyes. Lay off the crack guys and make something good and on par with Microsoft already.
Booo alternatives!
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I don't know if this is 'hardcore' but when I'm somewhere behind a lame proxy I shell into my box at home and use lynx
Rock on Bower!