Amazon takes on Apple TV with new $99 fireTV streaming & gaming set-top box

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  • Reply 21 of 193
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    1) Lots of pros and cons with this device but I think Roku's days might be numbered.

    2) Respectable that they put HBO GO on the list even though they don't support it.

    3) Neither the Roku, Apple TV, nor Chromecast feel sluggish so making it quad-core with 2GB RAM with that GPU is strictly for gaming, which I feel is a waste as I believe most won't game with the device (even if the oddly high-priced, $40 controller was included). I think it would have been better to create two models: one for the non-gamer which could come well under the Roku 2 and Apple TV, and this one for gaming.


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    The Roku is here to stay- it streams porn
  • Reply 22 of 193
    jakebjakeb Posts: 557member

    I hope Apple is really getting something mindblowing ready to go. This covers most of the rumored features of the AppleTv update. Voice control, apps, gaming...

     

    Between this and the Moto watch, there's a whole industry getting built around watching for Apple rumors and getting a decent product out based on the rumors before Apple does. 

  • Reply 23 of 193
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,705member
    Your move, Apple.

    How many times in the past two years has Cook said, "We've got amazing new products in the pipeline..."?

    Definitely a bunch of market-appeasing, gasbag bromides at this point. They sound no different than any other vaporware-producing has-been.

    He also they'll be released in late 2013 and throughout 2014. It's only April.
  • Reply 24 of 193
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,133member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

     

    When do u expect this in other countries? I mean Amazon videos & MP3s aren't even available in Canada yet.


    It's in the UK. Although the Amazon content may not be in your country there will be the ability on this box for local content providers to get in on the action, plus the channel list is far more extensive than what is on the ATV.

     

    I wanted Apple to give a shit about the ATV and the users outside of America for years, I have owned each and every ATV with the hope that one day that might actually do something.

     

    Once this baby is in the UK I am putting my ATV on eBay, as a pretty die hard Apple user it's sad. But I doubt Apple will miss me, it's not as if I'll be dumping my other Apple products.

  • Reply 25 of 193
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post



    Quad Core is marketecture.



    802.11n is old stuff.





    Apple will deliver a much better product IMO

    When? Apple dropped the ball here. Big time.

  • Reply 26 of 193
    scartartscartart Posts: 174member
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

     
     


    I expect Apple to announce something at WWDC, including an AppStore. I don't see how Amazon announcing something 2 months earlier is a big deal. Kindle Fire didn't stop Apple from selling a shitload of iPad minis.


    That will depend if it ships straight away. Amazon could have a 6+ month lead.

     

    If Amazon get a third party app that gives AirPlay functionality and then a lot of business sales of ATV disappear. Companies want a single device to be able to support both Apple and Android devices to stream presentations.

  • Reply 27 of 193
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,133member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

     
     


    I expect Apple to announce something at WWDC, including an AppStore. I don't see how Amazon announcing something 2 months earlier is a big deal. Kindle Fire didn't stop Apple from selling a shitload of iPad minis.


    True, but Apple could have and should have released the App Store for the ATV years ago when they launched the ATV 2. They seriously dropped the ball for no reason on this one. 

  • Reply 28 of 193
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post



    Apple will deliver a much better product IMO

     

    Perhaps.  The critical question is WHEN???

  • Reply 29 of 193
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post



    Quad Core is marketecture.



    802.11n is old stuff.





    Apple will deliver a much better product IMO

    Will they?  I've been waiting a year now for something better.  I was really hopeful for March.  I don't even know if we'll see anything in April seeing as how we haven't had a single rumor or pic yet about it.  The Apple TV is my favorite product- and the lack of updates to it's hardware is disheartening to say the least.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ScartArt View Post

     

    I don't like the use of an external power supply. One of the best design features of the ATV is the built-in PSU.

     

    Remote seems to be bluetooth not IR. Not so great for people with certain Harmony remotes that only support IR.

     




    Not a big deal if the device supports line of sight as well- not sure if it does (does the roku?).  Also- the draw to the remote is the voice search.  Something Apple could clearly have an advantage with by using Siri on iDevices in lieu of a remote.

     

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    Originally Posted by jakeb View Post

     

    I hope Apple is really getting something mindblowing ready to go. This covers most of the rumored features of the AppleTv update. Voice control, apps, gaming...


    Those 3 things I want very badly.  The side-by-side comparison of Asphalt 8 was a clear indicator of how much better a dedicated controller is.

     

    If Apple comes in with an A7- w/o disabled core, 1gb (or more) Ram, 16gb SSD (or 8gb w/ upgradable options- or ideally but unlikely, 8gb SSD with Time Capsule storage capabilities), wireless ac, universal search via voice-remote (or, preferably, accessibility via iDevice)- even at $199, i'd be all over it.  They can even make a crippled version for $99 as secondary units if needed.

  • Reply 30 of 193
    It will lost money for Amazon, and Bozo will announce we will lost more money and start producing movies, the analysts all got excited and tells dumb day traders Bozo is so innovative and the stock will double in no time, and the guidance will triple...by next year, Amazon ran out of money losing ideas and start during Apple for monopoly and spin off the gadget to some hedge funds and the stock will shot up again....
  • Reply 31 of 193
    Here come the spec chasers, so disappointed in Apple. So concerned that Apple doesn't chase every competitor. So concerned that Apple doesn't believe in "more is more."
  • Reply 32 of 193
    mazda 3smazda 3s Posts: 1,572member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by water cooler View Post



    It will lost money for Amazon, and Bozo will announce we will lost more money and start producing movies, the analysts all got excited and tells dumb day traders Bozo is so innovative and the stock will double in no time, and the guidance will triple...by next year, Amazon ran out of money losing ideas and start during Apple for monopoly and spin off the gadget to some hedge funds and the stock will shot up again....



    Does AI need to have an IQ test for posters before they're allowed to contribute content to the forums?

  • Reply 33 of 193
    j1h15233j1h15233 Posts: 274member

    Did Apple drop a ball? I can't tell from the comments so far

  • Reply 34 of 193
    pdq2pdq2 Posts: 270member
    Meh.

    Honestly, seems kind of me-too. Quad core means nothing to me- as others have noted, if it streams HD without stuttering, who cares? The gaming doesn't appeal to me personally - will it win any console players?

    On the other hand, Amazon has access to content, which I think is the real critical ingredient here. I personally can't see content companies preferring Amazon to Apple, considering how the eBook market has been pwned at the expense of the publishers (much worse than anything Apple did with the music industry, I think). But CEO's can be odd ducks...
  • Reply 35 of 193
    leesmithleesmith Posts: 119member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post



    Game changer.

    No, but I'll go with "ante upper"

  • Reply 36 of 193
    jakeb wrote: »
    I hope Apple is really getting something mindblowing ready to go. This covers most of the rumored features of the AppleTv update. Voice control, apps, gaming...

    Between this and the Moto watch, there's a whole industry getting built around watching for Apple rumors and getting a decent product out based on the rumors before Apple does. 

    OMG and NFC too! What TV appliance is complete without it? Don't know why I need it, but just in case it's innovation! Who knows? Just throw it in so it shows up on the specs sheet!

    It's very important that Apple out-specs and out-features everyone. Because otherwise doomed.
  • Reply 37 of 193
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,797member

    I think the two really appealing features to me are voice search (if it works well) and also the game style controller. Even if you don't game at all these controller are far easier to zoom through Netflix if you are sitting in the dark while watching a movie like I tend to do. I absolutely love my PS4 controller remote for controlling video content.  It will also probably appeal to a lot of people who enjoy an occasional game but are not dedicated gamers by any means. These two features are the exact ones I suggested for a revised AppleTV numerous times. The next AppleTV does not need to reinvent the wheel, simply beef up the specs, add games/apps support and a game type controller that includes voice search. 

  • Reply 38 of 193
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    scartart wrote: »
    I don't like the use of an external power supply. One of the best design features of the ATV is the built-in PSU.

    Remote seems to be bluetooth not IR. Not so great for people with certain Harmony remotes that only support IR.

    Actually, the fact that the microphone is on the remote means you can't use any third party remote and retain full functionality.
  • Reply 39 of 193
    j1h15233 wrote: »
    Did Apple drop a ball? I can't tell from the comments so far

    Yes, only Apple dropped the ball. Roku and Chromecast get a free pass. And Microsoft better start dropping the price of the Xbox One because this Amazon thing has quad cores for $99! That's good enough to play Titanfall. Watch as EA and Ubisoft abandon the expensive consoles for the $99 quad core thing.
  • Reply 40 of 193
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    iaeen wrote: »
    Actually, the fact that the microphone is on the remote means you can't use any third party remote and retain full functionality.

    Is there a reason a 3rd-party can't make a BT remote with a mic that is compatible with this device?
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