Samsung sues newspaper for $284k over negative reports on Galaxy S5

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  • Reply 61 of 81
    512ke512ke Posts: 782member
    Hey! Knock it off! That's the mother of my new watch's chip you are talking about.

    Let's be compassionate. This is Samsung's season of pain. Apple is taking the high end and Chinese manufacturers are taking the low end. Yes no maybe I don't know can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now and you're not so big.

    Life is unfair.
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  • Reply 62 of 81
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,084member
    cafefog wrote: »
    Wow. Samsung is a nasty company. The last of their monitors I'll ever buy...

    I have two big flat screen TVs, a ten-year-old Panasonic and a three-year-old Samsung. The Panasonic is still going strong; the Samsung developed an un fixable lavender horizontal 8-inch stripe a year ago. It shows up whenever the picture is white. Like Apple ads ironically.
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  • Reply 63 of 81
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,084member
    Dysamoria: Pro Apple bias on an Apple centric website. Imagine that. Your life must be filled with disappointments.

    Check out the DNC website; it's filled with liberal bias. Another shocker.
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  • Reply 64 of 81
    ws11ws11 Posts: 159member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    The doping for the benchmark tests adds very little improvement to the overall performance but says a lot about the vendor's moral fiber which, to me, makes it illogical that they would have 1) ever thought the pros outweigh the cons, and 2) that they are still doing it (although I don't recall any mention of it for the Galaxy S5 in AnandTech's review).

    In some cases software changes can also boost benchmarks, although I wouldn't call it doping.  Sometime around the 10th of March there was a software update that boosted the A7's GFXBench 3.0 Manhattan (Offscreen) score from an average of 675 (10.9) frames to an average of 803 (13.0) frames.  Whether that's real performance gain or just optimizations for the benchmark have yet to be seen.

     

    EDIT:  The March 10th boost did not change the score of GFXBench 3.0 T-Rex (offscreen), it remained at an average of 1472 (26.3)

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  • Reply 65 of 81
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    ws11 wrote: »
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">In some cases software changes can also boost benchmarks, although I wouldn't call it doping.  Sometime around the 10th of March there was a software update that boosted the A7's GFXBench 3.0 Manhatta</span>
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">n (Offscreen) score from an average of 675 (10.9) f</span>
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">rames to an average of 803 (13.0) frames.  Whether that's real performance gain or just optimizations for the benchmark have yet to be seen.</span>


    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">EDIT:  The March 10th boost did not change the score of GFXBench 3.0 T-Rex (offscreen), it remained at an average of 1472 (26.3)</span>

    Optimizing firmware and OS are legitimate improvements to the system. Doping is when the system specifically looks for benchmarks to be run and then foregoes all power and heat considerations to increase the performance to its highest level specifically for the test. This is artificial. This is doping.
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  • Reply 66 of 81
    Not sure if this page is Appleinsider or Samsunginsider

    It's Appleinsider.
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  • Reply 67 of 81
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator

    "When Apple relaunched the phone as iPhone 5c in a colorful case, the media again attacked it as being a flop, failure and mistake despite the middle tier phone's ability to outsell all BlackBerry phones together, all Windows Phone sales from every vendor globally, and even Samsung's top selling Galaxy S 4 flagship during the critical holiday quarter."

     

    Let;s just add some additional color to this statement.  Some would argue that the 5C represented a new iPhone model whereas the Galaxy s$ was, during the holiday quarter, a 9 month old model.  But those folks should comprehend the fact that the 5C was really the 5 repacked into a plastic case.  And that brightly colored plastic case was ridiculed, implying that consumers would prefer to have purchased the 5 at the same $100 discounted price.  This implies the 5, a full six months older the the Galaxy S4, would have even more significantly outsold the S4 during that quarter.

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  • Reply 68 of 81
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator

    Samsung's profits in the smartphone market are dropping.  Apple will out-wait them and eventually Samsung will not be able to afford the marketing budget its throwing at its smartphone business and it won;t be able to support the level of legal action its involved with.  Apple's iPhone and iPad have crushed several companies that sat on there hands while Apple passed them by; Dell, HP in PCs and tablets, Blackberry, Nokia, HTC, LG, Sony in phones, Microsoft in operating systems. etc.  Samsung, being a huge conglomerate, has more staying power than most and Apple understands it will take several more product cycles in this market to really hurt Samsung, but I believe we're at the tipping point of that process now.  Samsung is failing to keep pace with the real technical advances (Touch ID, 64-bit CPU), it's beginning to see the futility of Android and so is scrambling to create its own OS, for which it will then need to build out an ecosystem of apps, and it's getting desperate in its marketing spin.  The next three years will be very interesting to watch this Apple/Samsung battle unfold.


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  • Reply 69 of 81
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    Samsung's profits in the smartphone market are dropping.  Apple will out-wait them and eventually Samsung will not be able to afford the marketing budget its throwing at its smartphone business and it won;t be able to support the level of legal action its involved with.  Apple's iPhone and iPad have crushed several companies that sat on there hands while Apple passed them by; Dell, HP in PCs and tablets, Blackberry, Nokia, HTC, LG, Sony in phones, Microsoft in operating systems. etc.  Samsung, being a huge conglomerate, has more staying power than most and Apple understands it will take several more product cycles in this market to really hurt Samsung, but I believe we're at the tipping point of that process now.  Samsung is failing to keep pace with the real technical advances (Touch ID, 64-bit CPU), it's beginning to see the futility of Android and so is scrambling to create its own OS, for which it will then need to build out an ecosystem of apps, and it's getting desperate in its marketing spin.  The next three years will be very interesting to watch this Apple/Samsung battle unfold.
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  • Reply 70 of 81
    youngyoung Posts: 5member
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    Originally Posted by AaronJ View Post

     

     

    Thanks.

     

    Though that hardly seems like something Samsung could sue over


    It implies that Samsung will have issue with galaxy G5 production. I think that is why samsung is so sensitive to this issue but I agree with you. They are definitely overreacting on this issue. 

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  • Reply 71 of 81
    elmoofoelmoofo Posts: 100member
    Is that more or less than they pay for their good reviews?
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  • Reply 72 of 81
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by iMember View Post

    here a false report about the iPhone 5 

     

    So delete it from the page.

     

    Originally Posted by Young View Post

    EE Times was saying that samsung will have hard time to get a hands on enough 16MP camera modules for S5 due to very low yield.

     

    I say deport all foreign Samsung executives in the country, shut their doors, and bar them from importing.

     

    Originally Posted by dysamoria View Post

    The pro-Apple bias here is more annoying than usual for you, Apple Insider.

     

    Most parents stop dropping their kids on their heads LONG before the kid hits whatever age you are.

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  • Reply 73 of 81
    fffakrfffakr Posts: 4member
    Apple couldn't sue Rob Enderle. Could you imagine the potential PR blow-back if Apple were seen to be picking on the intellectually disadvantaged?

    Teehee.. I went and checked Wikipedia to confirm that Enderle was the 'rocket scientist' who predicted that the iMac would destroy Apple after countless people died due to flying shards of LCD glass after the next 'Big One' hits.
    It looks like Enderle wrote his own Wikipedia article. It's even got a warning posted at the top stating the "article's tone and style may not reflect encyclopedic tone". Apparently tongue-bath isn't in the style guide for Wikipedia.
    I may have to update it to more accurately reflect his history of prognostication this evening.
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  • Reply 74 of 81
    They need to quote more of the article, to see what the heck Samsung is so upset about.
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  • Reply 75 of 81

    I heard a tech reviewer say that Apple took all his demos away, and lowered their support, after he made a comment they didn't like.  Seems like the press gets a hard time from them too.  It's not legal action, but it's attempting to manipulate the press, nonetheless.

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  • Reply 76 of 81
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by DownhillDude View Post

    I heard a tech reviewer say that Apple took all his demos away, and lowered their support, after he made a comment they didn't like.  Seems like the press gets a hard time from them too.  It's not legal action, but it's attempting to manipulate the press, nonetheless.

     

    Yeah, doubt it.

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  • Reply 77 of 81
    imemberimember Posts: 247member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    So delete it from the page.

     

     


    Why delete it? Let the people know!.. as wikipedia fan i feel sorry for them 

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  • Reply 78 of 81
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by iMember View Post

    Why delete it? Let the people know!

     

    Know what? Lies? Why?

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  • Reply 79 of 81
    imemberimember Posts: 247member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by copeland View Post

     

    Just an advice for Samsung:

    "Innovate don't litigate!!"

    :smokey:


    I'ts funny beacause that is what Samsung said about Apple -the exact same words :smokey: 

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  • Reply 80 of 81
    imemberimember Posts: 247member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Know what? Lies? Why?


    They need to know not trust wikipedia...three yrs ago i was one of them who got fooled by wikipedia

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