"Thousands of dollars"???? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Low volume at best. Next, NFC, really? A pretty much failed tech, at least in the US? IMHO, not.
That's the limited edition model design to show how premium a brand Apple is. That's the jewellery. There will be cheaper models. Chill.
Now it's about 'need' and not something a customer would desire? Well I guess that means smartphones, tablets, TVs and pretty much everything else humans create are out of the question.
Dude, man, if you’re not tweeting your heart rate and blood glucose level at every moment of the day, are you really living your life, man? How will your friends whom you’ve never met, have never seen, and with whom you will never share so much as a passing secret be able to keep up with your life?
I think there should be a few more “like” and “man” in there, but I don’t feel right writing how the kids talk these days.
Dude, man, if you’re not tweeting your heart rate and blood glucose level at every moment of the day, are you really living your life, man? How will your friends whom you’ve never met, have never seen, and with whom you will never share so much as a passing secret be able to keep up with your life?
I think there should be a few more “like” and “man” in there, but I don’t feel right writing how the kids talk these days.
LOL
Pazuzu has no heart and my blood glucose level is next to non-existent. Personally man like I'd prefer my biorhythm read out and an iMood ring to tell me like when I need to take a chill pill?
The NFC part of the rumor makes no sense whatsoever! Apple would presumably want their iWatch to work with as many iPhones as possible. As far as I know not a single one currently on the market supports NFC. If this Kuo character is so off on his NFC prediction, it calls the rest of his predictions into question too.
You are assuming in part that the NFC would be for connecting to the iPhone. "If" they did this it would be for payments and other external systems. BT is what the device would use for the phone connection. I don't really think it will have NFC, but that really depends on whatever apple is planning for payments. Having a biometric wrist worn device for payments that wouldn't even need the iPhone would be ok in my book.
I'm not paying 1000s for an iWatch no matter how good it looks. If it is absurd in price, I will just get one of these fitness trackers.
Good point - thanks for pointing that out. I do actually remember one of they payment related patents mentioning BT *and* NFC. What's the max distance on NFC? I vaguely remember it being just a few inches - if so, swiping one's wrist above a sensor doesn't seem so convenient - BT LE seems a lot more convenient. But who knows.
I got used to electronic watch batteries lasting a year or more. Granted, mechanical watches usually needed to be wound everyday, but at least you did not have to plug them into a winding mechanism to "charge" them.
I got used to electronic watch batteries lasting a year or more. Granted, mechanical watches usually needed to be wound everyday, but at least you did not have to plug them into a winding mechanism to "charge" them.
That's simply not possible with today's technology. The amount of power needed to keep a simple analog or digital watch functioning is very slight.
That said, I would like to get more than a day. My Fitbit Force got at least a week and since I charged it when I took a shower it was fully charged every day. The small battery means that even a smartwatch might benefit from this type of maneuver but I'd really like more of a window for usage between charges (and have the charging mechanism be wireless).
PS: I wonder if anyone has measured how much "energy" is needed to keep a standard wind-up analog, kinetic analog, and digital watches working for a year?
A lot of self-righteous know-it-alls here! NFC might be translated to LE BT but would otherwise be basically correct.
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That's simply not possible with today's technology.
BUT, I think that the new breakthroughs in battery tech will make this a non-issue until such time as we can make powerful processing hardware truly sip electricity. Namely that new battery that plans to charge in seconds/minutes.
I don’t think people would much mind taking off their watch (still not sold on the idea)/phone to charge fully while they use the restroom or get a bowl of cereal*, you know?
*Yes, only those two activities. They’ll mind in every other situation, but it’s easier to change technology than human behavior.
That's simply not possible with today's technology. The amount of power needed to keep a simple analog or digital watch functioning is very slight.
That said, I would like to get more than a day. My Fitbit Force got at least a week and since I charged it when I took a shower it was fully charged every day. The small battery means that even a smartwatch might benefit from this type of maneuver but I'd really like more of a window for usage between charges (and have the charging mechanism be wireless).
PS: I wonder if anyone has measured how much "energy" is needed to keep a standard wind-up analog, kinetic analog, and digital watches working for a year?
I get what the realities of today's technology are, but still, capabilities aside, going from a year or more to "at least a day" is kind of a come down. However, I agree a week would be good, if possible. I wonder to what extent energy harvesting techniques might be incorporated in any iDevice to extend battery life.
I get what the realities of today's technology are, but still, capabilities aside, going from a year or more to "at least a day" is kind of a come down. However, I agree a week would be good, if possible. I wonder to what extent energy harvesting techniques might be incorporated in any iDevice to extend battery life.
Kinetic charging and/or a solar-panel in the face could happen but I would doubt that. Perhaps they can use that flexible battery tech to make an ergonomic wrist band that looks decent and can extend the life of the device without having to be a huge battery in the main part of the device. (Note: the battery tech is flexible but I doubt they'd make the whole band highly flexible as this could pose certain safety and longevity hazards, but it could still be formed easier with this tech.)
But how much "energy" could possibly be gained for a really small solar panel behind other components or a small kinetic motor? I wouldn't think much but I have no way of knowing this. What if one or both of those items added an average of 10% more life to the device? Would that be worth the cost, complexity and space needed for such options over a larger battery? I'd bet against any of that but I do believe that if any company can solve the riddle and make a usability-balanced, wrist-worn computer I think it's Apple.
They could also leverage their M and A-series chip expertise to be more power efficient. I would expect them to use the M-series but an A-series as it stands now isn't practical. In fact, when we first heard about the M7 I thought about the wearables market and iFixit discovering it was a discreet chip, not built onto the A7 SoC helped back that up for me.
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"Thousands of dollars"???? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Low volume at best. Next, NFC, really? A pretty much failed tech, at least in the US? IMHO, not.
That's the limited edition model design to show how premium a brand Apple is. That's the jewellery. There will be cheaper models. Chill.
Pfffft. iDon't want one
Where is the thing you don't iWant?
What biometrics does your phone measure in your pocket?
And I need that why?
If he's happy when he sees someone.
Could be that Apple found his sources and severed them for good. Which would, of course, be good.
Kuo predicts 36" iPad for $299 !!!
Now it's about 'need' and not something a customer would desire? Well I guess that means smartphones, tablets, TVs and pretty much everything else humans create are out of the question.
Dude, man, if you’re not tweeting your heart rate and blood glucose level at every moment of the day, are you really living your life, man? How will your friends whom you’ve never met, have never seen, and with whom you will never share so much as a passing secret be able to keep up with your life?
I think there should be a few more “like” and “man” in there, but I don’t feel right writing how the kids talk these days.
Dude, man, if you’re not tweeting your heart rate and blood glucose level at every moment of the day, are you really living your life, man? How will your friends whom you’ve never met, have never seen, and with whom you will never share so much as a passing secret be able to keep up with your life?
I think there should be a few more “like” and “man” in there, but I don’t feel right writing how the kids talk these days.
LOL
Pazuzu has no heart and my blood glucose level is next to non-existent. Personally man like I'd prefer my biorhythm read out and an iMood ring to tell me like when I need to take a chill pill?
The NFC part of the rumor makes no sense whatsoever! Apple would presumably want their iWatch to work with as many iPhones as possible. As far as I know not a single one currently on the market supports NFC. If this Kuo character is so off on his NFC prediction, it calls the rest of his predictions into question too.
You are assuming in part that the NFC would be for connecting to the iPhone. "If" they did this it would be for payments and other external systems. BT is what the device would use for the phone connection. I don't really think it will have NFC, but that really depends on whatever apple is planning for payments. Having a biometric wrist worn device for payments that wouldn't even need the iPhone would be ok in my book.
I'm not paying 1000s for an iWatch no matter how good it looks. If it is absurd in price, I will just get one of these fitness trackers.
Good point - thanks for pointing that out. I do actually remember one of they payment related patents mentioning BT *and* NFC. What's the max distance on NFC? I vaguely remember it being just a few inches - if so, swiping one's wrist above a sensor doesn't seem so convenient - BT LE seems a lot more convenient. But who knows.
Wait, what?
I got used to electronic watch batteries lasting a year or more. Granted, mechanical watches usually needed to be wound everyday, but at least you did not have to plug them into a winding mechanism to "charge" them.
That's simply not possible with today's technology. The amount of power needed to keep a simple analog or digital watch functioning is very slight.
That said, I would like to get more than a day. My Fitbit Force got at least a week and since I charged it when I took a shower it was fully charged every day. The small battery means that even a smartwatch might benefit from this type of maneuver but I'd really like more of a window for usage between charges (and have the charging mechanism be wireless).
PS: I wonder if anyone has measured how much "energy" is needed to keep a standard wind-up analog, kinetic analog, and digital watches working for a year?
A lot of self-righteous know-it-alls here! NFC might be translated to LE BT but would otherwise be basically correct.
Samsung will be all over this stuff when it's announced, but good luck copying! Yes, Samsung is really feeling it.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
BUT, I think that the new breakthroughs in battery tech will make this a non-issue until such time as we can make powerful processing hardware truly sip electricity. Namely that new battery that plans to charge in seconds/minutes.
I don’t think people would much mind taking off their watch (still not sold on the idea)/phone to charge fully while they use the restroom or get a bowl of cereal*, you know?
*Yes, only those two activities. They’ll mind in every other situation, but it’s easier to change technology than human behavior.
That's simply not possible with today's technology. The amount of power needed to keep a simple analog or digital watch functioning is very slight.
That said, I would like to get more than a day. My Fitbit Force got at least a week and since I charged it when I took a shower it was fully charged every day. The small battery means that even a smartwatch might benefit from this type of maneuver but I'd really like more of a window for usage between charges (and have the charging mechanism be wireless).
PS: I wonder if anyone has measured how much "energy" is needed to keep a standard wind-up analog, kinetic analog, and digital watches working for a year?
I get what the realities of today's technology are, but still, capabilities aside, going from a year or more to "at least a day" is kind of a come down. However, I agree a week would be good, if possible. I wonder to what extent energy harvesting techniques might be incorporated in any iDevice to extend battery life.
Kinetic charging and/or a solar-panel in the face could happen but I would doubt that. Perhaps they can use that flexible battery tech to make an ergonomic wrist band that looks decent and can extend the life of the device without having to be a huge battery in the main part of the device. (Note: the battery tech is flexible but I doubt they'd make the whole band highly flexible as this could pose certain safety and longevity hazards, but it could still be formed easier with this tech.)
But how much "energy" could possibly be gained for a really small solar panel behind other components or a small kinetic motor? I wouldn't think much but I have no way of knowing this. What if one or both of those items added an average of 10% more life to the device? Would that be worth the cost, complexity and space needed for such options over a larger battery? I'd bet against any of that but I do believe that if any company can solve the riddle and make a usability-balanced, wrist-worn computer I think it's Apple.
They could also leverage their M and A-series chip expertise to be more power efficient. I would expect them to use the M-series but an A-series as it stands now isn't practical. In fact, when we first heard about the M7 I thought about the wearables market and iFixit discovering it was a discreet chip, not built onto the A7 SoC helped back that up for me.
If you're heart doesn't stop when you see the price, then you're good to go.
What biometrics does your phone measure in your pocket?
Now that's a loaded question!
Did you read the description of Pazzuzu in The Exorcist novel?