"If these patents are as worthless as Samsung claims, then why don't they just drop them out of their products? They'd lose nothing of any value, by their logic."
You are confusing "patents" with "functionality".
Functionality are the things that are evolve and improve over time. Software-patents are the things that kill that. Try putting patents inside your phones instead of functionality, if you want a nice paper-weight.
The lack of brand loyalty is what is pathetic. People who love Apple products love their attention to detail and the investment that make in delivering features the public doesn't know they want but will actually enhance their experience. When companies are allowed to steal that innovation, and compete with Apple using their own designs and investments, it hurts Apple's real customers. The more Apple is distracted by trying to insure customers are not confused thinking they are getting the same features elsewhere, the less they can focus on pushing our platform forward. The Windows theft nearly killed Apple, because they were having to compete with their own tech while the thief sold poor replicas on the cheap.
We are loyal to Apple because they consistently put the end user experience first. The more successful they are the more they can focus on making more great stuff
I am on neither. Most people don't want to believe there beloved company(Google, Apple, Microsoft) can do wrong. What I see is Apple patents something that already existed, then sues whoever else uses it, and that to me is blatant wrong doing.
Oh I get it.
The iPhone existed but nobody made one.
Apple patented the iPhone
Apple made the iPhone
People bought the iPhone
Now everybody gets to make an iPhone
Because it has always existed.
What's funny about that second slide about 'lock screen efficiency' is that Apple ended up stopping using the more rigid slider to allow swiping across the whole screen to unlock. From Apple's pov, sliding across the whole screen is now better. Samsung, who was only intent on copying Apple, didn't even think that their original implementation, or a variation of it, might have been superior to the slider. That's because they weren't actually looking at making stuff better.
The lack of brand loyalty is what is pathetic. People who love Apple products love their attention to detail and the investment that make in delivering features the public doesn't know they want but will actually enhance their experience. When companies are allowed to steal that innovation, and compete with Apple using their own designs and investments, it hurts Apple's real customers. The more Apple is distracted by trying to insure customers are not confused thinking they are getting the same features elsewhere, the less they can focus on pushing our platform forward. The Windows theft nearly killed Apple, because they were having to compete with their own tech while the thief sold poor replicas on the cheap.
We are loyal to Apple because they consistently put the end user experience first. The more successful they are the more they can focus on making more great stuff
Ok, saying brand loyalty is pathetic is harsh, I get annoyed when that brand loyalty causes you to bash and hate on the competition. Being a fan is great, being a fanboy isn't. In my opinion Apple is stalling innovation with these idiotic patent trials. They're trying to kill the competition in the courtroom instead of the marketplace.
Ok, saying brand loyalty is pathetic is harsh, I get annoyed when that brand loyalty causes you to bash and hate on the competition. Being a fan is great, being a fanboy isn't. In my opinion Apple is stalling innovation with these idiotic patent trials. They're trying to kill the competition in the courtroom instead of the marketplace.
There is no innovation in using someone else's tech. Theft of innovative efforts is what kills it. Apple stopped innovating after being blindsided by the theft of their mac user interface by windows because of a poorly written license to Microsoft to continue Word and Excel development. It's hard was hard to justify the man hours and investment when there is little or no protection keeping a competitor from taking your efforts and appropriating them with little cost or effort. If Samsung was actually innovating, there would be not trial at all, because they would not be using Apple's tech in their products. They would be doing doing something different, not copying. The hate for Samsung and Google comes from their desire to Hurt Apple. It's evident in their plans to disrupt Apple's launch for instance. This is different from Apple's Approach which view them as partners in iPhone production. Notice that Apple's market plans look to expand the markets they enter. They are not based on trying to keep their competitors from making sales. They focus on selling more of their goods each quarter, competing with themselves.
Ok, saying brand loyalty is pathetic is harsh, I get annoyed when that brand loyalty causes you to bash and hate on the competition. Being a fan is great, being a fanboy isn't. In my opinion Apple is stalling innovation with these idiotic patent trials. They're trying to kill the competition in the courtroom instead of the marketplace.
Stalling?
Innovation?
Oh, I get
The iPhone costs too much
Innovation means $1.99 or maybe even free.
Can you afford that price?
But what about the pygmies in Africa?
Or the woogies in bajoobies?
The iPhone is too good an idea to belong to just one company!
I have it on good authority (wiki I think)
the UN was about to take over Apple!
Thank god g and S stepped in
and freed the iPhone for the good of all mankind.
Who can begrudge what paltry sums they may have gained for their efforts.
"If these patents are as worthless as Samsung claims, then why don't they just drop them out of their products? They'd lose nothing of any value, by their logic."
You are confusing "patents" with "functionality".
Functionality are the things that are evolve and improve over time.
Software-patents are the things that kill that.
Try putting patents inside your phones instead of functionality, if you want a nice paper-weight.
Like the software that handles encoding and decoding streams of data sent and received over a network?
Great no more standards essential patents and no more FRAND royalties.
Try not using software patents if you want a nice paperweight.
I had an exchange student from South Africa who attended a private, religious school in the US. Out of all the international students, the Korean students were in the majority. Unfortunately the school would constantly have issues with the Korean students disrespecting teachers and students and cheating on tests.
As I dug into this I discovered that the pressure for these students to achieve is incredibly high. In fact, they had to come to the US to pass high school so that they could have a chance to go to college. However I also learned that in Korean culture, it is perfectly fine to lie and cheat to create the illusion of success.
I'd like to say that this is a false stereotype, but after three years of high school and different students, the same scenario played out time and again. They feel no remorse since the ends outweigh the means when showing honor to their family.
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You are confusing "patents" with "functionality".
Functionality are the things that are evolve and improve over time.
Software-patents are the things that kill that.
Try putting patents inside your phones instead of functionality, if you want a nice paper-weight.
Can I get a Amen!
Oh I get it.
The iPhone existed but nobody made one.
Apple patented the iPhone
Apple made the iPhone
People bought the iPhone
Now everybody gets to make an iPhone
Because it has always existed.
Right ; )
That's right S stand for something.. Samsung or is it Stealing..
I particularly love that they COMPLETELY STOLE LINEN from Apple here.
Apple made a great product in the iphone and it's still great and took many years to develop.
what did Samsung develop before the iphone came out in smartphone's ?
what did Google develop before the iphone came out in smartphone's ?
Both were ripping the blackberry and Windows phone's off....then went great idea let's rip the iphone off.
Samsung PAID experts.
Just like banking in general so that's great!
The lack of brand loyalty is what is pathetic. People who love Apple products love their attention to detail and the investment that make in delivering features the public doesn't know they want but will actually enhance their experience. When companies are allowed to steal that innovation, and compete with Apple using their own designs and investments, it hurts Apple's real customers. The more Apple is distracted by trying to insure customers are not confused thinking they are getting the same features elsewhere, the less they can focus on pushing our platform forward. The Windows theft nearly killed Apple, because they were having to compete with their own tech while the thief sold poor replicas on the cheap.
We are loyal to Apple because they consistently put the end user experience first. The more successful they are the more they can focus on making more great stuff
Ok, saying brand loyalty is pathetic is harsh, I get annoyed when that brand loyalty causes you to bash and hate on the competition. Being a fan is great, being a fanboy isn't. In my opinion Apple is stalling innovation with these idiotic patent trials. They're trying to kill the competition in the courtroom instead of the marketplace.
And when did they begin using the S? Oh right, the year the 3GS came out.
if you see stealing as competition then fair enough...did u say fair competition ?
We get a lot of contrarians who come here to tell other people how wrong they are.
Stalling?
Innovation?
Oh, I get
The iPhone costs too much
Innovation means $1.99 or maybe even free.
Can you afford that price?
But what about the pygmies in Africa?
Or the woogies in bajoobies?
The iPhone is too good an idea to belong to just one company!
I have it on good authority (wiki I think)
the UN was about to take over Apple!
Thank god g and S stepped in
and freed the iPhone for the good of all mankind.
Who can begrudge what paltry sums they may have gained for their efforts.
"If these patents are as worthless as Samsung claims, then why don't they just drop them out of their products? They'd lose nothing of any value, by their logic."
You are confusing "patents" with "functionality".
Functionality are the things that are evolve and improve over time.
Software-patents are the things that kill that.
Try putting patents inside your phones instead of functionality, if you want a nice paper-weight.
Like the software that handles encoding and decoding streams of data sent and received over a network?
Great no more standards essential patents and no more FRAND royalties.
Try not using software patents if you want a nice paperweight.
As I dug into this I discovered that the pressure for these students to achieve is incredibly high. In fact, they had to come to the US to pass high school so that they could have a chance to go to college. However I also learned that in Korean culture, it is perfectly fine to lie and cheat to create the illusion of success.
I'd like to say that this is a false stereotype, but after three years of high school and different students, the same scenario played out time and again. They feel no remorse since the ends outweigh the means when showing honor to their family.
We get a lot of contrarians who come here to tell other people how wrong they are.
No we don't.