So if the patented techs have so little value, they would add little value to Samsung's products. So Samsung should have no objection to removing those functions, right?
I can't help but wonder what would really happen if Apple decided to make a line of cheap plastic iPhones (maybe call them something else for the low-end market) to utterly gut Samsung's worldwide position as "top Android phone."
China will take care of the low end. Squeeze Sammy at both ends.
Whole stupid samsung smartphones are bullshit with stupid google software. So I don't like google and samsung company with lousy employees. So I feel like going to running from the California of United States. So I don't like my homes state of California with lousy samsung business.
So basically Samsung is claiming Apple's patents are actually worth 1.7% of what Apple has assessed them at? What a bunch of thieving, shameless fucktards.
All Samsung had to do was agree to not copy Apple designs--just as Nokia and HTC did--and they could have licensed these patents for much less. The patents are nonessential--Samsung didn't have to infringe--so Apple can charge whatever they wish under whatever terms they wish. Samsung of course doesn't have to accept those terms... and hasn't. Let them suffer the consequences.
Samsung may be digging a hole here. Everytime they come up with a new defense they lose a bit of credibility. I'm shocked they are trying to have multiple defenses. It's like well you've admitted you're guilty. However, given the number of defenses it hurts your credibility when you say billions of dollars worth of IP is only really worth 38.4million.
Apple bought a really nice car, like a Porsche. Drove it for a year and the Samsung steals the car and disassembles it for parts. Samsung was caught stealing the car (although the judge only allows certain pieces if the car to be evaluated) and now the theif is trying not to pay for the whole car. So there defense is to belittle the price of the part.
"Oh see, most people you ask don't see why this shifter knob is all that important or worth what Apple is asking for it. Really it's just a polished piece of mahogany. I can build that in my worship over the weekend..."
The point is that the pieces combined make for a VERY enticing and expensive product that works great... But they are attempting to devalue the worth if the whole by making the parts seem trivial.
Sorry Samsung, but I hope they throw the book at you and sue you into oblivion so you learn a lesson.
PS: I will never but a Samsung branded anything. I can't support their terrible acts.
I doubt this is going to work out well for Apple. A trial like this has nothing to do with the truth it has to do with what the jury can understand. A valuation argument explained by two experts at MIT could very well be more than the jury can digest. It's also hard for a jury to see a company this big and profitable as a victim.
In the US something like this is seen as victimless crime, stealing an idea falls on the same level as downloading a song or a movie over a P2P network. Apple is a massive company worth billions a jury may have a hard time seeing how they were actually hurt by Samsung. Unlike a criminal trial in civil court the bar is proof by preponderance of evidence, more likely true than not.
The fact that Apple went on to have record sales and earnings time and time again after the crime was committed it may be hard for a jury to see massivel damage. A royalty was honestly a brilliant way for Samsung to go.
It will all come down to who can prove their augment is more likely true than not.
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China will take care of the low end. Squeeze Sammy at both ends.
Too bad Johnnie Cochran's no longer with us. Samsung could use his defense strategy:
"If the patent's not void, you must blame Android."
Hopefully, the jury is smart enough to see the smokescreens Samsung is trying, as mentioned by snova:
1.) We didn't do it
2.) Our sales are the result of our massive advertising budget, not slavishly copying the iPhone
3.) Google did it
4.) If you think we're guilty, we owe far less $
So basically Samsung is claiming Apple's patents are actually worth 1.7% of what Apple has assessed them at? What a bunch of thieving, shameless fucktards.
All Samsung had to do was agree to not copy Apple designs--just as Nokia and HTC did--and they could have licensed these patents for much less. The patents are nonessential--Samsung didn't have to infringe--so Apple can charge whatever they wish under whatever terms they wish. Samsung of course doesn't have to accept those terms... and hasn't. Let them suffer the consequences.
“We the jury find the defendant guilty of all charges. Again.”
Samsung: “Well, that’s to be expected. Let’s hear it; what’s the damage?”
“They are to be made to pay the plaintiff damages in the order of thirty-eight point four…”
Samsung: “YES!”
“…billion dollars.”
Samsung: *Homer shriek*
“To be paid in full by the end of this calendar year under penalty of doubling.”
they would also have to a agree not to rip off apple designs and future innovation ..and they said they would not agree to that..it says it all.
throw the book at them...even 2 billion wont dent them.
Expert witness my ass.
Sounds more like paid liar.
Speaking of, last night's Cosmos episode was excellent.
Samsung may be digging a hole here. Everytime they come up with a new defense they lose a bit of credibility. I'm shocked they are trying to have multiple defenses. It's like well you've admitted you're guilty. However, given the number of defenses it hurts your credibility when you say billions of dollars worth of IP is only really worth 38.4million.
Apple bought a really nice car, like a Porsche. Drove it for a year and the Samsung steals the car and disassembles it for parts. Samsung was caught stealing the car (although the judge only allows certain pieces if the car to be evaluated) and now the theif is trying not to pay for the whole car. So there defense is to belittle the price of the part.
"Oh see, most people you ask don't see why this shifter knob is all that important or worth what Apple is asking for it. Really it's just a polished piece of mahogany. I can build that in my worship over the weekend..."
The point is that the pieces combined make for a VERY enticing and expensive product that works great... But they are attempting to devalue the worth if the whole by making the parts seem trivial.
Sorry Samsung, but I hope they throw the book at you and sue you into oblivion so you learn a lesson.
PS: I will never but a Samsung branded anything. I can't support their terrible acts.
I doubt this is going to work out well for Apple. A trial like this has nothing to do with the truth it has to do with what the jury can understand. A valuation argument explained by two experts at MIT could very well be more than the jury can digest. It's also hard for a jury to see a company this big and profitable as a victim.
In the US something like this is seen as victimless crime, stealing an idea falls on the same level as downloading a song or a movie over a P2P network. Apple is a massive company worth billions a jury may have a hard time seeing how they were actually hurt by Samsung. Unlike a criminal trial in civil court the bar is proof by preponderance of evidence, more likely true than not.
The fact that Apple went on to have record sales and earnings time and time again after the crime was committed it may be hard for a jury to see massivel damage. A royalty was honestly a brilliant way for Samsung to go.
It will all come down to who can prove their augment is more likely true than not.
That would be a criminal case but this is a civil case so the rules are different.
Remind me not to take economics and finance at Yale.