Wall Street impressed by Apple's surprise second quarter, analysts see stock headed to new highs

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  • Reply 41 of 106
    Apple is rocking again, watch out!
  • Reply 42 of 106
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member

    Everybody should spend the next 1/2 hour or so going over AI threads and posts from a couple of days ago before yesterday’s Q2 results. Simply mind boggling the negativity and the hilarious “Apple must do <this> in order to survive” comments and predictions. Hey, I’m just as guilty as the next guy but I generally have a positive outlook on the company because I’ve been a customer since 1982. All this “Steve is dead so all is lost” and “fire Cook now!” is kind of funny when you remember that between the iPod and the iPhone was a six year period of incremental upgrades and improvements. 

  • Reply 43 of 106
    Wall Street is impressed. OK, now we have reason to panic.

    Those Wall Street clowns are clueless.
  • Reply 44 of 106
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

     

    I read somewhere and I am beginning to agree with the wisdom of it.

     

    At first it made no sense to me what Apple would split the stock,it  just creates more share in the market and help devalue the company even further, more shares in circulation generally dilutes the value. 

     

    However, what I read said this could actually help Apple with the issue it is having, so many large institutions own apple therefore they have more control over what apple does they force these issue we keep seeing. At at lower share price, apple could be own by a lot more individual and with more individuals in the market trying to buy share could help drive it up. 

     

    We will see if that wisdom play out that way.


     

    Well one thing for sure is what certain trolls will say when the stock split happens and AAPL is around $80. “Google is worth 10 times what Apple is,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, bwah, ha ha. Google FTW!” When market capitalization is mentioned you always get the blank stare.

  • Reply 45 of 106
    tundraboytundraboy Posts: 1,882member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

     

    At first it made no sense to me what Apple would split the stock,it  just creates more share in the market and help devalue the company even further, more shares in circulation generally dilutes the value. 


     

    If I exchange the $50 bill in your wallet with five $10 bills, does that make you poorer?

     

    [When my daughter was 3, she would count her money coin by coin and declare "I have 7 moneys!"]

  • Reply 46 of 106
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    Are my calculations correct?



    I am trying to figure out what the new share price will need to be for Apple to be a $1 TRILLION DOLLAR company.



    With 861.74 million shares the price needs to be $1160. Based on the 7:1 split, and not including any drop in shares from their massive buyback, apple will need to reach $165.78 per share.

     

    Maybe that was the rationale for the split (or at least one reason)... easier to convince people to keep buying up to $165 than to keep buying up to $1100+.

  • Reply 47 of 106
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

     

    Well one thing for sure is what certain trolls will say when the stock split happens and AAPL is around $80. “Google is worth 10 times what Apple is,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, bwah, ha ha. Google FTW!” When market capitalization is mentioned you always get the blank stare.


     

    Apple doesn't fight spec wars.? 8-)

  • Reply 48 of 106
    hametahameta Posts: 79member
    sog35 wrote: »
    One day too late you analysis trolls.

    Sure would help if they said this yesterday.

    Anyway I don't listen to analysis and I held on to my 250 shares and did not sell when they were proclaiming doom last year.

    Totally Agree !

    Let's NOT FORGET that AAPL's All Time High WAS Above $700 !


    WHY It Should Be Hovering NOW MISERABLLY Under $550 In The First Place ???

    What Gives MORE THAN 20% DECLINE, and WHY NEVER RECOVERED SINCE THEN Despite ALL THE JAW-DROPPING and MIND-BLOWING EACH TIME CONFERENCE CALL ??????


    Apple NEVER EXPERIENCED " Fiasco " Since They HIT All Time HIGH $700 !

    IN CONTRAST, What About THIS " Villain's FAVOURATE and BACKED UP Enterprise " ?


    Even After " FIASCO " of Google's Latest Earning Conference Call Last Week 16/April/2014, The Motley Fool - Ishfaque Faruk Wrote SUCH BOGUS ARTICLE !!!




    Google Inc's Earnings Confirm Its Moat Is Stronger Than Ever
    By Ishfaque Faruk
    April 21, 2014 .


    Google's (NASDAQ: GOOG ) been performing very well. The divestiture of Motorola Mobility benefits Google's robust margin profile. The company's market leadership positions in search, online video, and mobile operating systems are stronger than ever, and they will drive the company's stock price higher in the future.



    NO ONE THINK SO !!!!!!.

    " Google whiffs on Q1 2014 earnings with EPS of $6.27 " - BGR
    http://bgr.com/2014/04/16/google-earnings-q1-2014/


    " Google Shares Tank Following Q1 Earnings Miss " - TechnoBuffalo
    http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/04/16/google-q1-2014-earnings/


    " Google misses earnings, revenue targets again on Q1 report " - ZDNet
    http://www.zdnet.com/google-misses-earnings-revenue-targets-again-on-q1-report-7000028509/


    " Google Earnings Miss In Early Disclosure Shakes Up Net Stocks " - Forbes
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/10/18/google-earnings-miss-in-early-disclosure-shake-up-net-stocks/


    " Google pleads growing pains as earnings miss expectations " - CNET
    http://www.cnet.com/news/google-stock-slides-as-earnings-miss/

    *whiff = verb

    NORTH AMERICAN informal
    (chiefly in baseball or golf) try unsuccessfully to hit the ball.



    I'm SURE, If This Conference Call Result Were That of Apple, AAPL Easily Should Have PLUMMETED 40 - 50%, Judging From Their Favourate Phrase " Apple is DOOMED " !


    " Google's CORE BUSINESS CRISIS ! "


    HEY, WALL STREET, WHY ARE YOU SO GENEROUS AND LENIENT With Google, While SO HARSH Against Apple ??????


    Google Big Missed Q3 Earnings Estimates



    Google Reported Revenue ex-traffic Acquisition costs of $11.33 billion, well below the Wall Street Estimates at $11.9 billion.
    Non-GAAP EPS of $9.03 a share was down from $9.72 a year ago, and DRAMATICALLY BELOW The Street Consensus at $10.65 a share.
    Non-GAAP operating margin plunged to 27%, from 37% in the year ago quarter.


    While revenues were strong, EPS missed TAC as a percentage of revenue increased, MARGINS SHRANK and Cost-per-Click was DOWN.

    SOMETHING VERY CRUCIALLY DESTRUCTIVE TO THEIR CORE BUSINESS IS HAPPENING !!!!!!


    There were problems elsewhere on the balance sheet as well, namely in Google's Core Department : SEARCH.


    Cost-per-click was Down by 9 % Annually, although it was Flat Sequentially.


    And "Click Prices Declined for the Fourth Consecutive Quarter after Rising for Eight Consecutive Quarters before then, " he said. "That's a VERY VERY NEGATIVE. This is the mobile problem. "



    " Google IS DOOMED " !!!
  • Reply 49 of 106
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    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post

     

    If I exchange the $50 bill in your wallet with five $10 bills, does that make you poorer?


     

    Does a lower share price not make it easier for individual buyers to own the stock? Not everyone can afford the up-front cost to shop at warehouse clubs, for example, where you have to buy 5 pound boxes of cereal, and ball point pens in 20-packs.  There's a market for single-portion bags of potato chips, too.  Are there not some buyers who would have difficulty buying a share of APPL when the price hits $3,000/share?

  • Reply 50 of 106
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    Originally Posted by HAMETA View Post





    Totally Agree !



    Let's NOT FORGET that AAPL's All Time High WAS Above $700 !



    [Yadda, yadda, yadda...]




    " Google IS DOOMED " !!!

     

    Why must you shout at us, HAMETA?  

    Furthermore, it's rare that I can even figure out the point you're trying to make.

    What the hell is a "backed up Enterprise"?

     

    (My Enterprise doesn't back up. Ever.)  ;)

  • Reply 51 of 106
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post

    Why must you shout at us, HAMETA?  


     

    I love this guy, actually. He adds flavor. And reminds me of Time Cube.

  • Reply 52 of 106
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    I love this guy, actually. He adds flavor. And reminds me of Time Cube.


     

    I'm impressed by all the sizes and colors. That takes dedication.

  • Reply 53 of 106
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,292member

    Notice how there's no sight of Constable Odo the resident anal-yst propaganda machine?

  • Reply 54 of 106
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    I love this guy, actually. He adds flavor. And reminds me of Time Cube.


     

    I don't know Time Cube, but heck... I suppose I'm glad HAMETA has a fan club!  Rock on.

  • Reply 55 of 106
    bushman4bushman4 Posts: 857member
    Apple has raised its dividend , increased the stock buyback, and split the stock all in hope of rewarding investors for their patient wait and Apples dwindling stock price in a Bull market. Hppefully Apple has products in the pipeline that will be released soon. As for Apple beating the Anal-ists estimates. It just goes to prove that they really don't know much about Apple
  • Reply 56 of 106
    512ke512ke Posts: 782member

    It's weird how wildly untrue ideas about Apple firmly take root in the Analysts' discourse.

     

    Here are just some untruths that I personally keep stumbling across:

     

    1) The high end smart phone market is saturated.  Not true.

     

    2) Chinese people don't want or can't afford iPhones.  Not true.  In a big way.

     

    3) Apple must come up with new product categories to continue growing.  Not true at all.

     

    4) Apple used to come up with new product categories all the time.  Not true.  No way.

     

    5) Apple needs to sell low margin low priced phones to succeed.  Not true.  Lol.

     

    6) iOS has lost the battle to Android.  Not true.

     

    7) Samsung's new phone is crushing the iPhone.  That is never true.

     

    8), 9) and 10) Well, you get the idea of my comment.

  • Reply 57 of 106
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I see Fox Business is still pushing the whole 'board is worried about innovation' meme. They just did a segment on Apple and it was totally negative. Financial trickery to disguise lack of innovation, stock split will attract the wrong kind of investors, Cook is good but not great and certainly no Jobs, where are the new products, blah blah blah. Vomit worthy. :rolleyes:

    Can someone name for me the new products Google has announced so far this year besides Android Wear? And that's not even shipping on any watches yet. I don't follow Google closely so maybe there is this plethora of new innovative products that they've announced and I just haven't noticed. If there is I'd love for someone to name them here.
  • Reply 58 of 106
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post

    I dont know Time Cube


     

    Maybe that’s for the best…

  • Reply 59 of 106
    drewys808drewys808 Posts: 547member
     
    Originally Posted by BUSHMAN4 View Post

    Apple has raised its dividend , increased the stock buyback, and split the stock all in hope of rewarding investors for their patient wait and Apples dwindling stock price in a Bull market.

    You're just making this up aren't you? No, it had nothing to do with dwindling stock price in a bull market. aapl has gone up and down, up and down, up and down...what makes you think that this split/buyback/dividend increase was specifically to respond to the recent price decline?

     
     Hppefully Apple has products in the pipeline that will be released soon. 

    There will be, absolutely. You say this as if to place doubt in our minds?

     
     As for Apple beating the Anal-ists estimates. It just goes to prove that they really don't know much about Apple

    No, actually there are some pretty good analysts (dediu, turley, deagol) that in my opinion are actually very astute. I do think that it's getting harder and harder for them to predict/estimate supply chain due to Apple's expansion into various markets and its complex manuf./fabrication operation. But yes, by and large, I agree that analysts don't know much or are just bald face liars.

  • Reply 60 of 106
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Why must you shout at us, HAMETA?  
    Furthermore, it's rare that I can even figure out the point you're trying to make.
    What the hell is a "backed up Enterprise"?

    (My Enterprise doesn't back up. Ever.)  ;)

    You never heard of "backed up Enterprise"?

    That's when James T. Kirk parks that bad boy up at Starfleet Command. :lol:
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