Creator of Apple's Core Animation leaves for new role, likely at Facebook

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  • Reply 21 of 46
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
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    Originally Posted by macxpress View Post

     

     

    Yes, because nobody important ever left Apple when Steve was CEO of Apple. 

     

    -Bertrand Serlet

    -Tony Fadel

    -Jon Rubenstein

    -Sina Tommaddon

    -Ron Johnson

     

    These are just a few of the big names that have all left Apple under Steve's wing, most of them being related with the Mac side. I'm so tired of this Tim Cook shit people keep spewing out. 

     

    What really big names have left Apple since Tim was here? Scott Forstall was fired, so he doesn't count. 


     

    I know 3 out of 5 of them personally. None of them were involved with the actual making of the products directly, whether hardware, software or what have you. They were leaders in directing and focusing teams to meet goals.

     

    Bertrand is a great guy. He hadn't been knee deep in coding for nearly 15 years. Rubenstein never wrote code and his expertise of working with hardware was in the past. Sina worked in branding, marketing and non tech related relations. He was one of the first guys we contacted to come back during the merger. He had bailed on NeXT and professional services prior to the merger.

     

    There is plenty of talent at Apple. If someone wants to leave to get a huge pay day and a title they've been pining over, let them go. They'll discover the experience never pans out.

  • Reply 22 of 46
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,808member
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    I know 3 out of 5 of them personally. None of them were involved with the actual making of the products directly, whether hardware, software or what have you. They were leaders in directing and focusing teams to meet goals.

     

    Bertrand is a great guy. He hadn't been knee deep in coding for nearly 15 years. Rubenstein never wrote code and his expertise of working with hardware was in the past. Sina worked in branding, marketing and non tech related relations. He was one of the first guys we contacted to come back during the merger. He had bailed on NeXT and professional services prior to the merger.

     

    There is plenty of talent at Apple. If someone wants to leave to get a huge pay day and a title they've been pining over, let them go. They'll discover the experience never pans out.


     

    Thanks for running through who these people are for those that don't know. I just didn't want to run my post out. 

     

    People always come and go with every company no matter who or how important you are (or think you are). We all have to remember these are changing times too and sometimes the people who were great at Apple maybe aren't so great for what's coming down the road. So Apple has also hired some pretty great people these last few months. 

  • Reply 23 of 46
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    ``According to Harper's LinkedIn page, he spent just over 12 years at Apple. During his time there, he also co-designed and implemented the "CoreImage" real-time image processing engine that debuted in OS X 10.4 Tiger, which launched in 2005.''

    He gives himself way too much credit.

    I would like to read up on what others have contributed to Core Animation apart from this John Harper. Is this specific piece of software 'never' written by a single person? I'm not a dev, and have no idea how many people it would take to create something that had such a big influence. If I can relate these two so closely, that is.
  • Reply 24 of 46
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
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    Apple should be deeply concerned about the constant exodus of deeply technical people in recent years. Tim Cook is dropping the ball again.

     

    People may be leaving but there are people coming on board too.  Off the top of my head I know there's been two major fashion executives (Deneve and Ahrendts) as well as Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre rumored to be joining the Apple executive team as well.


    Wow. Comparing these "business suits" with the actual creators of Apple core technologies? Yikes!

     

    I wish I could think of some positive way to spin this situation, but I just can't. 

  • Reply 25 of 46
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
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    Apple should be deeply concerned about the constant exodus of deeply technical people in recent years. Tim Cook is dropping the ball again.



    What you should be concerned about is that you may actually believe your "Tim Cook Dropped Ball, thus Apple Doomed" propaganda nonsense.



    So lets recap the famous quotes from armchair whiners like you:



    Tim Cook dropping ball again.

    Apple is doomed.

    Steve Jobs would never do this.

    Apple lost their innovation since Steve Jobs died.

    Apple is in decline because they don't sell cheap junk.



    Care to add more?


    Sure.   "Apple just lost one (more) of the creators of some of it's most important technology."

     

    Difference between your listed items and mine, is that your's are BS and mine is real.

  • Reply 26 of 46
    el tugael tuga Posts: 9member
    Apple's biggest mistake was to let Scott Forstall leave. Despite his temper, he and his team developed the best OS ever. Then they made iOS 7 which is a really shitty version of iOS, (which sadly enough takes many design cues from the also shitty android) just to make a statement and say it was created by the new iOS team, and everyone that's any good are of course leaving. I sincerely hope that Apple wakes up before more damage is done.
  • Reply 27 of 46
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member

    I guess it can be natural to have your fill of working for one company, but...  Facebook?  What is he going to do, design animations of byzantine security controls that change on a weekly basis?  I hope the money's good.

  • Reply 28 of 46
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,384member
    auxio wrote: »
    Some of the most interesting and talented people I know would be dismissed as hobos by the superficial members of society.  Some people live life on the surface, others are more interested in what lies beneath.  I'm one of the latter.  Sounds like Apple lost a talented developer.

    Superficial? How difficult is it to not look like you're super depressed as your profile pic? This is nothing about appearance, its making a miniscule effort to have a neutral or happy expression.
  • Reply 29 of 46
    hmmhmm Posts: 3,405member
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    "constant exodus"?

     

    Name names, pls. 

     

    If the last two quarters are an indication that Tim Cook is "dropping the ball", I hope it stays on the floor. 

     

    $$$$$ . . .  and from all the right products.


     

    The two of you are talking about completely different things. Issues such as  retention of key management won't show up over the shorter term on quarterly reports, but I still think his comment really misses the mark. Not everyone wants to spend their entire career at one company, so I would say it's more important to look at their ability to replenish both talent and management. He tried to portray it as a sinking ship, yet listing off people who left in recent years without further context and supporting information is just disingenuous.

  • Reply 30 of 46
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,727member
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    Superficial? How difficult is it to not look like you're super depressed as your profile pic? This is nothing about appearance, its making a miniscule effort to have a neutral or happy expression.

     

    Shiny happy people everywhere right?  If I were looking to hire a talented developer, I could care less about whether they were smiling in their profile pic.  I'd rather find someone with knowledge, talent, and ambition who didn't smile, than one who did and was trying to cover up the fact that they didn't know anything.  Be real.

  • Reply 31 of 46
    davesmalldavesmall Posts: 118member
    I still haven't been able to find any value in Facebook. Seems to be the modern replacement for the coffee klatch. Young housewives comparing photos of their toddlers with comments like, "Look what little Johnny did today." That's about all there is to it from my vantage point.

    But then, what do I know? I also fail to see any value in Starbucks, having only been to one of their stores one time, and thought the coffee was too strong and prices way too high. Couldn't figure out why anyone would want to patronize a coffee shop.

    Apple, on the other hand, provides tremendous value with their best in class products and marvelous ecosystem. I delight over Apple's products every day. It's hard to comprehend why a talented engineer would want to leave Apple for a position at a place like Facebook or Starbucks where relevance is hard to find.
  • Reply 32 of 46
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
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    Jesus, that profile pic. My grandmother's voice comes to mind. "Wipe that puss off your face."

     

     

    Maybe that's his "I'm not into rap or DR. DRE" look?


    I'm into Metallica!  <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
  • Reply 33 of 46
    droidftwdroidftw Posts: 1,009member
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    Superficial? How difficult is it to not look like you're super depressed as your profile pic? This is nothing about appearance, its making a miniscule effort to have a neutral or happy expression.

     

    Give him some time at his new job and I'm sure his smile will come back.  /s

  • Reply 34 of 46
    taniwhataniwha Posts: 347member
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    Apple should be deeply concerned about the constant exodus of deeply technical people in recent years. Tim Cook is dropping the ball again.

    A fashion accessory manufacturer doesn't need deep techies.

  • Reply 35 of 46
    taniwhataniwha Posts: 347member
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    Originally Posted by davesmall View Post



    I still haven't been able to find any value in Facebook. Seems to be the modern replacement for the coffee klatch. Young housewives comparing photos of their toddlers with comments like, "Look what little Johnny did today." That's about all there is to it from my vantage point.



    But then, what do I know? I also fail to see any value in Starbucks, having only been to one of their stores one time, and thought the coffee was too strong and prices way too high. Couldn't figure out why anyone would want to patronize a coffee shop.



    Apple, on the other hand, provides tremendous value with their best in class products and marvelous ecosystem. I delight over Apple's products every day. It's hard to comprehend why a talented engineer would want to leave Apple for a position at a place like Facebook or Starbucks where relevance is hard to find.

    You can't find any value in Facebook because there is none in it for you. You are the product to be sold.

  • Reply 36 of 46
    d4njvrzfd4njvrzf Posts: 797member
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    He must be someone important.  That was my first thought when I saw his LinkedIn pic showing himself all disheveled and unkept.  I guess if one is really that good, they don't care how he keeps himself since he'll probably be working more-or-less on his own, at home, to not care.



    Take some pride in your appearance buddy


    The term "Unix beard" was coined for a reason.

  • Reply 37 of 46
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    There is this saying,

    It isn't how long you have been working for Apple.

    It is how many times you have worked at Apple.
  • Reply 38 of 46
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,823member

    So, he's been gone from Apple for a year, how did Apple ever survive the last 12 months?

     

  • Reply 39 of 46
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,384member
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    Shiny happy people everywhere right?  If I were looking to hire a talented developer, I could care less about whether they were smiling in their profile pic.  I'd rather find someone with knowledge, talent, and ambition who didn't smile, than one who did and was trying to cover up the fact that they didn't know anything.  Be real.


     

    Making a tiny effort not to look depressed in a cover photo means you're "covering up the fact that you don't know anything"? Really? Thanks for the incredible insight. 

     

    My obvious point that having a good attitude, smiling, and not being a downer is a POSITIVE, not a negative, in addition to any skills and knowledge. I know those things make a big fucking difference in terms of the work place. 

  • Reply 40 of 46
    boots2xboots2x Posts: 2member
    Seems like this article left out a big detail... Harper left Apple a year ago. Any Tim-Bone-Pointing is a little late, don't you think?

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