No, @tastowe is a parodist troll, mimicking (what he thinks are) rabid Apple fans. Forum regulars know what's going on and don't engage him. The bad grammar is deliberate, and in poor taste.
My post that said this thread should be dumped and restarted, minus one person, got deleted. I must have missed something.
Is that some kind of weak sauce threat, or are you giving out free tips for nasal hygiene?
I have a question about you. Do you like apple products or not like apple products? Because you are complaint too much about apple business. You need do to use nose spray for your nose. So I don't like people complaint and ugly about apple. I am having a problem about between google, samsung and apple did not getting long. So lots stupid hard headed people in this world.
The problem samsung's employees are lair about their stupid attitude with shitty galaxy smartphones. I don't trust bad samsung employees. So they should getting a pink slip for their job for stealing from apple and blackberry patents. The South Korea government are getting bust for stealing from America company by their shit samsung company
Funny isn't it. Living in Germany I don't trust american companies at all .. they are all a pack of lying spies.
You should check out the sordid criminal history of German companies some time -- even excluding the early-to-mid 20th century.
I am sure it will make you proud to live there.
You are not seriously suggesting that american companies are in any way more ethical ?? Get real.
I am not going to rise to the bait regarding historical evils, but if you want to go down that road look at colonial history, ask the Native americans, look at the spanish/portugese colonization history in south america and so on.
My point is another one and relates to current geopolitical policies and events. In this respect I don't need to "defend" the germans. I did chose to live and work here, and I did chose not, for any reason, to live or work in the US of A. In terms of modern democratic society and the rule of law, the germans have a pretty good track record. (arguably because they actually LEARNED from the mistakes of the past under Hitler and the Stasi etc).
If you recall what I originally said it was that I do not TRUST any american companies. There are good reasons for that because of the US exceptionalism in regard to their dealings with other countries and cultures. Look at the NSA topic. The US seems to think that US laws give them the right to break the laws of other countries, including their "friends" and "allies" with impunity. This mindset is the PRODUCT of the american arrogance and exceptionalism which has been so embarrassingly exposed in the last year or so. But the worst aspect is that US companies can be forced by the US government to spy on their partners and customers, and are protected by US law from the consequences of doing so. That is what destroys the foundation of trust. If I KNOW that a partner can be compelled to lie to me and if I KNOW that he may be prohibited by law from telling the truth ... then there is no possibility to trust them.
Simple really. And that's why I prevent our company from doing business with american companies wherever possible. In the EU we have clearly better constitutional rights protection and much better protection of privacy than in the US .. even though it's by no means the best that we could have.
Is that some kind of weak sauce threat, or are you giving out free tips for nasal hygiene?
I have a question about you. Do you like apple products or not like apple products? Because you are complaint too much about apple business. You need do to use nose spray for your nose. So I don't like people complaint and ugly about apple. I am having a problem about between google, samsung and apple did not getting long. So lots stupid hard headed people in this world.
Tastowe, it is almost impossible to figure out what on earth you are talking about. Get a new translation program or make some attempt to write in something that resembles english. It's just hard to understand because the english you write is so bad.
I like how Android enthusiasts contempt for the jury and the court turned on a dime as soon as Samsung was given a pass despite being found guilty of willfully infringing a series of patents. Apple as just as much right to appeal as any of the infringing companies do. It's just the legal system at work.
I hope you weren't inferring that I am an Android enthusiast, If so you are mistaken as I have never owned a phone that runs Android.
I was just stating my opinion that Apple clearly do not have any valid basis for claiming irreparable harm. With 150 Billion sloshing around in the bilges and with the obvious dominant success they are having in the US market - highlighted by an abundance of articles you have penned - It would make any idiot wonder what 'irreparable' meant when the company claiming it was clearly top dog. The claim of 'irreparable harm' is pure BS.
Of course Apple have a right to appeal, but the apocryphal tale of the boy who cried wolf makes me doubt whether it's a wise thing to do.
I hope you weren't inferring that I am an Android enthusiast, If so you are mistaken as I have never owned a phone that runs Android.
I was just stating my opinion that Apple clearly do not have any valid basis for claiming irreparable harm. With 150 Billion sloshing around in the bilges and with the obvious dominant success they are having in the US market - highlighted by an abundance of articles you have penned - It would make any idiot wonder what 'irreparable' meant when the company claiming it was clearly top dog. The claim of 'irreparable harm' is pure BS.
Of course Apple have a right to appeal, but the apocryphal tale of the boy who cried wolf makes me doubt whether it's a wise thing to do.
The boy who cried wolf? Sammy stole from Apple. There's no denying that. Apple was then competing against its own tech. How can that not do harm to Apple?
Product bans are not in the best interest of the consumer market at least that was the excuse Obama's administration gave when they declined to ban infringing products by Apple so turn about is fair play.
Apple has been compensated based on the supposed harm and yet Apple has neither balls or backing to go after ALL Android OEM's or Google for the same alleged infringement. Swipe to unlock and rubber band effect are part of the Android OS not Samsung's implementation of the OS.
Improving upon your products should be how you differentiate and grow market share. Perpahs Samsung should Sue everyone else for copying the 5.0" Phablet sizes that all and Apple are going to be offering. After all before the Galaxy Note no phone was over 5.2" and then after everyone started to and now Apple is going to and its been proven they are copying Samsung to get that market. So who is copying who.
Product bans are not in the best interest of the consumer market at least that was the excuse Obama's administration gave when they declined to ban infringing products by Apple so turn about is fair play.
Apple has been compensated based on the supposed harm and yet Apple has neither balls or backing to go after ALL Android OEM's or Google for the same alleged infringement. Swipe to unlock and rubber band effect are part of the Android OS not Samsung's implementation of the OS.
Improving upon your products should be how you differentiate and grow market share. Perpahs Samsung should Sue everyone else for copying the 5.0" Phablet sizes that all and Apple are going to be offering. After all before the Galaxy Note no phone was over 5.2" and then after everyone started to and now Apple is going to and its been proven they are copying Samsung to get that market. So who is copying who.
Don't confuse SEP with non-SEP. how can one differentiate its products if the other guys are allowed to keep copying? Apple made deals with HTC and now Moto.
I won't even discuss the absurdity of the size comment.
The boy who cried wolf? Sammy stole from Apple. There's no denying that. Apple was then competing against its own tech. How can that not do harm to Apple?
The harm has been addressed by a Jury. Given the amount awarded I doubt they thought the harm was irreparable. Do you honestly believe, given Apple's continued immense success in the marketplace, that the degree of harm amounts to irreparable?
Apple nor Sammy can innovate anything due to the lawsuits so I'm on my way out. Tired of the BS between Apple and Sammy. Off to Windows.
Peace out peeps.
Oh, I have a new 5S and 13" Macbook Pro for sell....Haha
I'll make sure the door hits your ass on the way out. Growing from iOS and OSX to Windows? LOL!!!
Product bans are not in the best interest of the consumer market at least that was the excuse Obama's administration gave when they declined to ban infringing products by Apple so turn about is fair play.
Apple has been compensated based on the supposed harm and yet Apple has neither balls or backing to go after ALL Android OEM's or Google for the same alleged infringement. Swipe to unlock and rubber band effect are part of the Android OS not Samsung's implementation of the OS.
Improving upon your products should be how you differentiate and grow market share. Perpahs Samsung should Sue everyone else for copying the 5.0" Phablet sizes that all and Apple are going to be offering. After all before the Galaxy Note no phone was over 5.2" and then after everyone started to and now Apple is going to and its been proven they are copying Samsung to get that market. So who is copying who.
Umm, no.
What's the point in going after companies like HTC who aren't even making money? Samsung is the ONLY company making profits on mobile, beyond Apple. Together they account for 106% of worldwide mobile profits. So that means that ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES COMBINED are losing money. Combined.
There's no point suing them, as they have nothing to begin with.
What's the point in going after companies like HTC who aren't even making money? Samsung is the ONLY company making profits on mobile, beyond Apple. Together they account for 106% of worldwide mobile profits. So that means that ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES COMBINED are losing money. Combined.
There's no point suing them, as they have nothing to begin with.
To prevent them from becoming Samsung, or do you foolishly believe that things will stay the same as they are now?
It's a saturated market but with a short product life cycle. Another company can easily turn the tide in a year.
Just like they did last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that. Or the year ...
Oh, wait.
There is no "the next Samsung." It's over. The war's been fought, victors have been declared. Documents signed. Apple and Samsung won. Everyone else -- EVERYONE -- is either simply treading water or consistently in the red. Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.
By the time another significant player in the mobile space exists -- and that won't be for a long while -- everything will be so totally different that any infringement case now would be meaningless. There's simply no reason for Apple to go after the HTCs, LGs, and Motos of the world. It's pointless.
Hell, I'm convinced that only reason this whole Apple/Samsung thing is still going on is out of spite.
Just like they did last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that. Or the year ...
Oh, wait.
There is no "the next Samsung." It's over. The war's been fought, victors have been declared. Documents signed. Apple and Samsung won. Everyone else -- EVERYONE -- is either simply treading water or consistently in the red. Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.
By the time another significant player in the mobile space exists -- and that won't be for a long while -- everything will be so totally different that any infringement case now would be meaningless. There's simply no reason for Apple to go after the HTCs, LGs, and Motos of the world. It's pointless.
Hell, I'm convinced that only reason this whole Apple/Samsung thing is still going on is out of spite.
That's a loser's way of thinking. I'm sure Palm, and Blackberry thought the same way. That wasn't too long ago. Things can change overnight. Nothing is won since there isn't an end game. The 'winner' today could be tomorrow's 'loser'.
That's a loser's way of thinking. I'm sure Palm, and Blackberry thought the same way. That wasn't too long ago. Things can change overnight. Nothing is won since there isn't an end game. The 'winner' today could be tomorrow's 'loser'.
Nope. It can't be tomorrow, actually.
Could it be a decade from now? Sure. Will UI elements in mobile devices be similar to what we have now? No, they won't. Infringement cases over particular elements that won't even exist by the time they are relevant accomplish what, exactly?
Here, a bit of what things looked like a decade ago in mobile:
And remember, this wasn't some cheapo no-name phone at the time. It was CUTTING EDGE!
So, no: Nothing's going to change tomorrow. None of the others in the business of mobile have the resources to compete with Apple or Samsung. None of the others have the ability to do any harm to Apple or Samsung.
Any sea change that occurs will be far (in tech terms) in the future.
Could it be a decade from now? Sure. Will UI elements in mobile devices be similar to what we have now? No, they won't. Infringement cases over particular elements that won't even exist by the time they are relevant accomplish what, exactly?
Here, a bit of what things looked like a decade ago in mobile:
And remember, this wasn't some cheapo no-name phone at the time. It was CUTTING EDGE!
So, no: Nothing's going to change tomorrow. None of the others in the business of mobile have the resources to compete with Apple or Samsung. None of the others have the ability to do any harm to Apple or Samsung.
Any sea change that occurs will be far (in tech terms) in the future.
Yet you're forgetting that Apple took on the incumbent heavyweights. What you're saying is the same thing all the doubters said. It didn't happen overnight but how long did it take for Palm to disappear? BB is on it's last leg. How long can Samsung continue to fool consumers?
Comments
No, @tastowe is a parodist troll, mimicking (what he thinks are) rabid Apple fans. Forum regulars know what's going on and don't engage him. The bad grammar is deliberate, and in poor taste.
My post that said this thread should be dumped and restarted, minus one person, got deleted. I must have missed something.
Other US and Germany companies are corrupted.. Apple isn't, what's your point?
Apple did not invent those great things..they're system did, inventors choose Apple over other companies because they trust them,
Not every American are the same just like not every German are Hitler.
Apple honest and trustworthy, er I doubt that if they were hauled through the courts by their hair for ebook price fixing.
They conspired to rip off the public and beat Amazon, end of story.
The problem samsung's employees are lair about their stupid attitude with shitty galaxy smartphones. I don't trust bad samsung employees. So they should getting a pink slip for their job for stealing from apple and blackberry patents. The South Korea government are getting bust for stealing from America company by their shit samsung company
Funny isn't it. Living in Germany I don't trust american companies at all .. they are all a pack of lying spies.
You should check out the sordid criminal history of German companies some time -- even excluding the early-to-mid 20th century.
I am sure it will make you proud to live there.
You are not seriously suggesting that american companies are in any way more ethical ?? Get real.
I am not going to rise to the bait regarding historical evils, but if you want to go down that road look at colonial history, ask the Native americans, look at the spanish/portugese colonization history in south america and so on.
My point is another one and relates to current geopolitical policies and events. In this respect I don't need to "defend" the germans. I did chose to live and work here, and I did chose not, for any reason, to live or work in the US of A. In terms of modern democratic society and the rule of law, the germans have a pretty good track record. (arguably because they actually LEARNED from the mistakes of the past under Hitler and the Stasi etc).
If you recall what I originally said it was that I do not TRUST any american companies. There are good reasons for that because of the US exceptionalism in regard to their dealings with other countries and cultures. Look at the NSA topic. The US seems to think that US laws give them the right to break the laws of other countries, including their "friends" and "allies" with impunity. This mindset is the PRODUCT of the american arrogance and exceptionalism which has been so embarrassingly exposed in the last year or so. But the worst aspect is that US companies can be forced by the US government to spy on their partners and customers, and are protected by US law from the consequences of doing so. That is what destroys the foundation of trust. If I KNOW that a partner can be compelled to lie to me and if I KNOW that he may be prohibited by law from telling the truth ... then there is no possibility to trust them.
Simple really. And that's why I prevent our company from doing business with american companies wherever possible. In the EU we have clearly better constitutional rights protection and much better protection of privacy than in the US .. even though it's by no means the best that we could have.
Is that some kind of weak sauce threat, or are you giving out free tips for nasal hygiene?
I have a question about you. Do you like apple products or not like apple products? Because you are complaint too much about apple business. You need do to use nose spray for your nose. So I don't like people complaint and ugly about apple. I am having a problem about between google, samsung and apple did not getting long. So lots stupid hard headed people in this world.
Tastowe, it is almost impossible to figure out what on earth you are talking about. Get a new translation program or make some attempt to write in something that resembles english. It's just hard to understand because the english you write is so bad.
I like how Android enthusiasts contempt for the jury and the court turned on a dime as soon as Samsung was given a pass despite being found guilty of willfully infringing a series of patents. Apple as just as much right to appeal as any of the infringing companies do. It's just the legal system at work.
I hope you weren't inferring that I am an Android enthusiast, If so you are mistaken as I have never owned a phone that runs Android.
I was just stating my opinion that Apple clearly do not have any valid basis for claiming irreparable harm. With 150 Billion sloshing around in the bilges and with the obvious dominant success they are having in the US market - highlighted by an abundance of articles you have penned - It would make any idiot wonder what 'irreparable' meant when the company claiming it was clearly top dog. The claim of 'irreparable harm' is pure BS.
Of course Apple have a right to appeal, but the apocryphal tale of the boy who cried wolf makes me doubt whether it's a wise thing to do.
So is this the new strategy: bury all hope of relevant discussion under an avalanche of near-nonsensical spam?
The boy who cried wolf? Sammy stole from Apple. There's no denying that. Apple was then competing against its own tech. How can that not do harm to Apple?
Apple has been compensated based on the supposed harm and yet Apple has neither balls or backing to go after ALL Android OEM's or Google for the same alleged infringement. Swipe to unlock and rubber band effect are part of the Android OS not Samsung's implementation of the OS.
Improving upon your products should be how you differentiate and grow market share. Perpahs Samsung should Sue everyone else for copying the 5.0" Phablet sizes that all and Apple are going to be offering. After all before the Galaxy Note no phone was over 5.2" and then after everyone started to and now Apple is going to and its been proven they are copying Samsung to get that market. So who is copying who.
Don't confuse SEP with non-SEP. how can one differentiate its products if the other guys are allowed to keep copying? Apple made deals with HTC and now Moto.
I won't even discuss the absurdity of the size comment.
The boy who cried wolf? Sammy stole from Apple. There's no denying that. Apple was then competing against its own tech. How can that not do harm to Apple?
The harm has been addressed by a Jury. Given the amount awarded I doubt they thought the harm was irreparable. Do you honestly believe, given Apple's continued immense success in the marketplace, that the degree of harm amounts to irreparable?
Product bans are not in the best interest of the consumer market at least that was the excuse Obama's administration gave when they declined to ban infringing products by Apple so turn about is fair play.
Apple has been compensated based on the supposed harm and yet Apple has neither balls or backing to go after ALL Android OEM's or Google for the same alleged infringement. Swipe to unlock and rubber band effect are part of the Android OS not Samsung's implementation of the OS.
Improving upon your products should be how you differentiate and grow market share. Perpahs Samsung should Sue everyone else for copying the 5.0" Phablet sizes that all and Apple are going to be offering. After all before the Galaxy Note no phone was over 5.2" and then after everyone started to and now Apple is going to and its been proven they are copying Samsung to get that market. So who is copying who.
Umm, no.
What's the point in going after companies like HTC who aren't even making money? Samsung is the ONLY company making profits on mobile, beyond Apple. Together they account for 106% of worldwide mobile profits. So that means that ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES COMBINED are losing money. Combined.
There's no point suing them, as they have nothing to begin with.
To prevent them from becoming Samsung, or do you foolishly believe that things will stay the same as they are now?
To prevent them from becoming Samsung, or do you foolishly believe that things will stay the same as they are now?
It's a saturated market already. And I've seen absolutely zero evidence that HTC or Moto or whoever is going to make any real strides.
And let's face it, no one's going to become the next Samsung.
It's a saturated market but with a short product life cycle. Another company can easily turn the tide in a year.
It's a saturated market but with a short product life cycle. Another company can easily turn the tide in a year.
Just like they did last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that. Or the year ...
Oh, wait.
There is no "the next Samsung." It's over. The war's been fought, victors have been declared. Documents signed. Apple and Samsung won. Everyone else -- EVERYONE -- is either simply treading water or consistently in the red. Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.
By the time another significant player in the mobile space exists -- and that won't be for a long while -- everything will be so totally different that any infringement case now would be meaningless. There's simply no reason for Apple to go after the HTCs, LGs, and Motos of the world. It's pointless.
Hell, I'm convinced that only reason this whole Apple/Samsung thing is still going on is out of spite.
That's a loser's way of thinking. I'm sure Palm, and Blackberry thought the same way. That wasn't too long ago. Things can change overnight. Nothing is won since there isn't an end game. The 'winner' today could be tomorrow's 'loser'.
That's a loser's way of thinking. I'm sure Palm, and Blackberry thought the same way. That wasn't too long ago. Things can change overnight. Nothing is won since there isn't an end game. The 'winner' today could be tomorrow's 'loser'.
Nope. It can't be tomorrow, actually.
Could it be a decade from now? Sure. Will UI elements in mobile devices be similar to what we have now? No, they won't. Infringement cases over particular elements that won't even exist by the time they are relevant accomplish what, exactly?
Here, a bit of what things looked like a decade ago in mobile:
And remember, this wasn't some cheapo no-name phone at the time. It was CUTTING EDGE!
So, no: Nothing's going to change tomorrow. None of the others in the business of mobile have the resources to compete with Apple or Samsung. None of the others have the ability to do any harm to Apple or Samsung.
Any sea change that occurs will be far (in tech terms) in the future.
Yet you're forgetting that Apple took on the incumbent heavyweights. What you're saying is the same thing all the doubters said. It didn't happen overnight but how long did it take for Palm to disappear? BB is on it's last leg. How long can Samsung continue to fool consumers?