Give the guy a break, he is probably English! The English have done more to screw up English the language than just about anybody. In England the proper English would in fact be the use of "are" even though the logic behind such usage is strained.
Just bought a BTO with the 3.7gHz i7 Quad and 3 Tb Fusion with the fastest graphics I could get.
This is exactly what I want to get this year - the (almost) fully loaded 27 inch iMac. I hope there is some interesting updates before this year is out.
Changing RAM in a 27" iMac is fairly painless and requires no tools.
But not in the 21-incher. And recent reports say that sales for that model are lagging [can't find the link right now.] If cutting margins and delivering lower priced iMacs is really on the table, one would think it would be preferable to deliver more value.
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You've never even able to change the hard drive/flash in an iMac so why would you expect this to happen? 9/10 people could care less about changing either the RAM or hard drive.
For many of us, access to RAM and the hard drive adds value. That one person out of the ten is the smart one.
But not in the 21-incher. And recent reports say that sales for that model are lagging [can't find the link right now.] If cutting margins and delivering lower priced iMacs is really on the table, one would think it would be preferable to deliver more value.
For many of us, access to RAM and the hard drive adds value. That one person out of the ten is the smart one.
I'd rather see a link that points to the lack of expanding the RAM in an iMac leads to falling sales.
Obviously, Apple doesn't see it as adding value or else they'd do it. Just because you want it, doesn't mean everyone else does.
More like sales are lagging because desktop sales in general are lagging as people are buying notebooks and tablets instead.
There's nothing wrong with the current capacity/cost most users I've encountered wouldn't fill 256GB. The problem is; what happens when a drive does fill up? Re-purpose the local drive as a cache for a larger backing store and you're fine.
Give the guy a break, he is probably English! The English have done more to screw up English the language than just about anybody. In England the proper English would in fact be the use of "are" even though the logic behind such usage is strained.
Get away! You Americans have butchered the English language more than any other country.
Both "are" and "is" are perfectly useable in this scenario.
Apple is a company, companies can be collective nouns or a singular entity. Don't let your loose American grasp on English vocabulary confuse you. You are the ones that started "can I get a coffee" instead of "can I have a coffee". Unless you are actually going to jump over the counter and make the coffee yourself, you can't GET a coffee.
I'd rather see a link that points to the lack of expanding the RAM in an iMac leads to falling sales.
This is one of those things that is hard to prove without a lot of research. All I can say is that I will not personally buy an iMac as long as serviceability is an issue. Replacement of a hard disk or power supply should not be a major undertaking on any sort of desktop machine.
Obviously, Apple doesn't see it as adding value or else they'd do it. Just because you want it, doesn't mean everyone else does.
Of course not but the problem here is that it is a simple issue of design. Accessibility doesn't add significant costs and in fact can make machine assembly easier. In any event it is a design issue that keeps iMacs out of a lot of corporate installations also so it isn't just a consumer level issue.
More like sales are lagging because desktop sales in general are lagging as people are buying notebooks and tablets instead.
This is a real problem but also highlights an issue that bothers me a bit, that is why doesn't Apple make its machines more useful in the sorts of applications where a desktop is still the go to machine. The Example here is the Min and Apples attempts to market it as a server. Seriously who implements a server where the storage media is not accessible. By the way it isn't just traditional server duties where the Mini sucks, it really doesn't cut the mustard for home video server duty either. Sure in either case you can make it work but it is hardly an ideal solution.
In other words we don't need a niche desktop iMac, low cost or not, we need a flexible box that is easy to service. Honestly this noise about a low cost iMac just proves to me that Apple has lost touch with their users and their needs. The last thing Apple needs is yet another desktop that is hard to service and is all in one.
Get away! You Americans have butchered the English language more than any other country.
Both "are" and "is" are perfectly useable in this scenario.
Maybe in England.
Apple is a company, companies can be collective nouns or a singular entity.
I'm sorry but in the USA a company is a legal entity just like a person.
Don't let your loose American grasp on English vocabulary confuse you. You are the ones that started "can I get a coffee" instead of "can I have a coffee". Unless you are actually going to jump over the counter and make the coffee yourself, you can't GET a coffee.
Err, proper english would be "may I have a coffee" if you are willing to actually drink that stuff.
Shipping times are back to 'within 24 hours' on the Apple Store site.
Oh no, shipping times unslip! This means lower-priced models delayed and won't be seen at WWDC. Downgrade AAPL for improving shipping times and possibly delaying possibly fictional product.
Apple is not plural, it refers to a company and therefore requires "is."
Depends on where you're from. In many countries, "Apple" is considered a collective noun and verbs can therefore take plural or singular forms depending on the intended usage.
iNosey is right, although using the plural is tolerable.
If they do drop prices on the iMac, form will have finally and completely overtaken function.
The problem with the iMac isn't the price, it's the inability to replace the RAM and HD.
Design a semi-serviceable iMac, and keep the price and profit margin where they are.
You're absolutely right-to which I would add: the fact that there is no built-in floppy drive is a deal-breaker to the dozens and dozens of people who like to replace their RAM and HD.
Apple is. Not are. Apple is a company and therefore requires the singular helping verb of is.
Give the guy a break, he is probably English! The English have done more to screw up English the language than just about anybody. In England the proper English would in fact be the use of "are" even though the logic behind such usage is strained.
You're both right, really. If you said, "The company are in no position," it would sound distinctly odd, and yet, that is what you are effectively saying when you say, "Apple are in no position."
Or take this example:
There is one company which is able to dominate. That is Apple.
There are one company which are able to dominate. That are Apple.
Get away! You Americans have butchered the English language more than any other country.
Both "are" and "is" are perfectly useable in this scenario.
Maybe in England.
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Apple is a company, companies can be collective nouns or a singular entity.
I'm sorry but in the USA a company is a legal entity just like a person.
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Don't let your loose American grasp on English vocabulary confuse you. You are the ones that started "can I get a coffee" instead of "can I have a coffee". Unless you are actually going to jump over the counter and make the coffee yourself, you can't GET a coffee.
Err, proper english would be "may I have a coffee" if you are willing to actually drink that stuff.
Correct usage would be either, "Please may I have a coffee?" or "May I have a coffee, please?" or "Would you be so kind as to make me a coffee?" or "Please would you kindly make me a coffee?" or other possibilities including the word 'please' or something similar. Presumably Dre and his ilk would say "Get me a muthafucin' coffee now niggabitch!" that being the correct terminology for rappers and those who like rap(rape of the ears).
You're absolutely right-to which I would add: the fact that there is no built-in floppy drive is a deal-breaker to the dozens and dozens of people who like to replace their RAM and HD.
Smart people understand that the easiest way to extend the life of a desktop is to upgrade the RAM and HD.
If you care about the environment, dumping good, usable machines after three years simply because they don't have the memory to run modern applications is sickening. I don't care how recyclable the chassis is, if adding a stick of RAM and a new HD means the machine (and screen) can be used again for education, prison or local and foreign charity uses, it should stay out of the dump.
You're absolutely right-to which I would add: the fact that there is no built-in floppy drive is a deal-breaker to the dozens and dozens of people who like to replace their RAM and HD.
Smart people understand that the easiest way to extend the life of a desktop is to upgrade the RAM and HD.
If you care about the environment, dumping good, usable machines after three years simply because they don't have the memory to run modern applications is sickening. I don't care how recyclable the chassis is, if adding a stick of RAM and a new HD means the machine (and screen) can be used again for education, prison or local and foreign charity uses, it should stay out of the dump.
If you buy a Mac, there's no need to dump after three years; that's Windows mentality. My first iMac lasted me seven years (and still works), and my current 2008 is still fine.
Smart people understand that the easiest way to extend the life of a desktop is to upgrade the RAM and HD.
It depends upon how you use your machine and where your performance bottleneck is. In general though upgrades simply aren't as valuable as they have been in the past. With the way software has evolved these days, if you buy enough RAM upfront you should be in good shape for years.
If you care about the environment, dumping good, usable machines after three years simply because they don't have the memory to run modern applications is sickening.
Well I don't know about sickening but maybe a better word is stupid. Even then you can't say with 100% confidence that it is stupid, rather you have to consider the users needs.
I don't care how recyclable the chassis is, if adding a stick of RAM and a new HD means the machine (and screen) can be used again for education, prison
Why should somebody in prison get a used computer? What many of those prisoners need is a daily whack upside the head.
or local and foreign charity uses, it should stay out of the dump.
Retasking old computers is the smart thing to do as long as they remain reliable. The real mark of age is when reliability goes out the window. This is the point where recycling makes sense.
Why should somebody in prison get a used computer? What many of those prisoners need is a daily whack upside the head.
I think his priority there was education. There have been programs that attempt to educate those in prison, figuring that they would then be less likely to return. I am however not sure what their success rate is like. Considering the cost of incarceration vs having another taxpayer to help with the cost of remaining prisoners, the reasoning seems obvious. That aside the use of violence to ensure submission is unlikely to have a desirable long term effect.
Apple is not plural, it refers to a company and therefore requires "is."
Depends on where you're from. In many countries, "Apple" is considered a collective noun and verbs can therefore take plural or singular forms depending on the intended usage.
I am trying to learn here so no DIS intended. Can you give me a couple of countries where this is the case? I am not aware of any myself (doesn't mean they do not exist) and I know I would like to know now the name of this type English ( e.g., US, US PC, US Extended, British, British PC...). I find it interesting that Apple is a collective noun or a verb - having trouble with the verb part myself.
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Just bought a BTO with the 3.7gHz i7 Quad and 3 Tb Fusion with the fastest graphics I could get.
This is exactly what I want to get this year - the (almost) fully loaded 27 inch iMac. I hope there is some interesting updates before this year is out.
Changing RAM in a 27" iMac is fairly painless and requires no tools.
But not in the 21-incher. And recent reports say that sales for that model are lagging [can't find the link right now.] If cutting margins and delivering lower priced iMacs is really on the table, one would think it would be preferable to deliver more value.
You've never even able to change the hard drive/flash in an iMac so why would you expect this to happen? 9/10 people could care less about changing either the RAM or hard drive.
For many of us, access to RAM and the hard drive adds value. That one person out of the ten is the smart one.
I'd rather see a link that points to the lack of expanding the RAM in an iMac leads to falling sales.
Obviously, Apple doesn't see it as adding value or else they'd do it. Just because you want it, doesn't mean everyone else does.
More like sales are lagging because desktop sales in general are lagging as people are buying notebooks and tablets instead.
Give the guy a break, he is probably English! The English have done more to screw up English the language than just about anybody. In England the proper English would in fact be the use of "are" even though the logic behind such usage is strained.
Get away! You Americans have butchered the English language more than any other country.
Both "are" and "is" are perfectly useable in this scenario.
Apple is a company, companies can be collective nouns or a singular entity. Don't let your loose American grasp on English vocabulary confuse you. You are the ones that started "can I get a coffee" instead of "can I have a coffee". Unless you are actually going to jump over the counter and make the coffee yourself, you can't GET a coffee.
This is a real problem but also highlights an issue that bothers me a bit, that is why doesn't Apple make its machines more useful in the sorts of applications where a desktop is still the go to machine. The Example here is the Min and Apples attempts to market it as a server. Seriously who implements a server where the storage media is not accessible. By the way it isn't just traditional server duties where the Mini sucks, it really doesn't cut the mustard for home video server duty either. Sure in either case you can make it work but it is hardly an ideal solution.
In other words we don't need a niche desktop iMac, low cost or not, we need a flexible box that is easy to service. Honestly this noise about a low cost iMac just proves to me that Apple has lost touch with their users and their needs. The last thing Apple needs is yet another desktop that is hard to service and is all in one.
Err, proper english would be "may I have a coffee" if you are willing to actually drink that stuff.
Shipping times are back to 'within 24 hours' on the Apple Store site.
Oh no, shipping times unslip! This means lower-priced models delayed and won't be seen at WWDC. Downgrade AAPL for improving shipping times and possibly delaying possibly fictional product.
Apple is*
Apple is not plural, it refers to a company and therefore requires "is."
Depends on where you're from. In many countries, "Apple" is considered a collective noun and verbs can therefore take plural or singular forms depending on the intended usage.
iNosey is right, although using the plural is tolerable.
If they do drop prices on the iMac, form will have finally and completely overtaken function.
The problem with the iMac isn't the price, it's the inability to replace the RAM and HD.
Design a semi-serviceable iMac, and keep the price and profit margin where they are.
You're absolutely right-to which I would add: the fact that there is no built-in floppy drive is a deal-breaker to the dozens and dozens of people who like to replace their RAM and HD.
Apple is. Not are. Apple is a company and therefore requires the singular helping verb of is.
Give the guy a break, he is probably English! The English have done more to screw up English the language than just about anybody. In England the proper English would in fact be the use of "are" even though the logic behind such usage is strained.
You're both right, really. If you said, "The company are in no position," it would sound distinctly odd, and yet, that is what you are effectively saying when you say, "Apple are in no position."
Or take this example:
There is one company which is able to dominate. That is Apple.
There are one company which are able to dominate. That are Apple.
The first is obviously correct.
Get away! You Americans have butchered the English language more than any other country.
Both "are" and "is" are perfectly useable in this scenario.
Maybe in England.
I'm sorry but in the USA a company is a legal entity just like a person.
Err, proper english would be "may I have a coffee" if you are willing to actually drink that stuff.
Correct usage would be either, "Please may I have a coffee?" or "May I have a coffee, please?" or "Would you be so kind as to make me a coffee?" or "Please would you kindly make me a coffee?" or other possibilities including the word 'please' or something similar. Presumably Dre and his ilk would say "Get me a muthafucin' coffee now niggabitch!" that being the correct terminology for rappers and those who like rap(rape of the ears).
You're absolutely right-to which I would add: the fact that there is no built-in floppy drive is a deal-breaker to the dozens and dozens of people who like to replace their RAM and HD.
Smart people understand that the easiest way to extend the life of a desktop is to upgrade the RAM and HD.
If you care about the environment, dumping good, usable machines after three years simply because they don't have the memory to run modern applications is sickening. I don't care how recyclable the chassis is, if adding a stick of RAM and a new HD means the machine (and screen) can be used again for education, prison or local and foreign charity uses, it should stay out of the dump.
If you buy a Mac, there's no need to dump after three years; that's Windows mentality. My first iMac lasted me seven years (and still works), and my current 2008 is still fine.
Retasking old computers is the smart thing to do as long as they remain reliable. The real mark of age is when reliability goes out the window. This is the point where recycling makes sense.
See here is the flips side if you can run a 2008 Mac and not have performance complaints then you have extremely modest requirements.
Why should somebody in prison get a used computer? What many of those prisoners need is a daily whack upside the head.
I think his priority there was education. There have been programs that attempt to educate those in prison, figuring that they would then be less likely to return. I am however not sure what their success rate is like. Considering the cost of incarceration vs having another taxpayer to help with the cost of remaining prisoners, the reasoning seems obvious. That aside the use of violence to ensure submission is unlikely to have a desirable long term effect.
Apple is*
Apple is not plural, it refers to a company and therefore requires "is."
Depends on where you're from. In many countries, "Apple" is considered a collective noun and verbs can therefore take plural or singular forms depending on the intended usage.
I am trying to learn here so no DIS intended. Can you give me a couple of countries where this is the case? I am not aware of any myself (doesn't mean they do not exist) and I know I would like to know now the name of this type English ( e.g., US, US PC, US Extended, British, British PC...). I find it interesting that Apple is a collective noun or a verb - having trouble with the verb part myself.
Best wishes.