2) I'd like to see an ultra-widescreen ?31.5" 4K display which will have the same height of the 27" but be wider as to accommodate Aperture, Xcode, and many other apps better.
I'd love to see a reimagining of the old "Luxo" iMac. Large, razor sharp, super thin repositionable Retina screen and the computer and connections in the base (like a half-height Mac Pro).
Apple’s newly free Garage Band, iMovie, iPhoto and iWork apps together weigh in at nearly 3GB.
So? The people buying this phone aren’t the ones using those.
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Kuo a well informed analyst my ass. Over half his 2013 timeline was wrong.
Still, I can buy the iPhone part of this rumor. And if it happens, you can bet the 5S will be the low-end phone come September. Which unfortunately might mean they’re actually making a 5.5” phone; ludicrous. Or they could just have two models, still at the same price points. That works.
Takes all the fun out of Apple rumours, he does. Still, would have been nice if he'd been able to say something about the Beats thing.
The iPhone rumour didn't make any sense, anyway. As others have said, it's the wrong conference for that announcement, expect something in August or September for the iPhone 6, or iPhone Air or whatever, and then we'll see the low end 5s, which may well be in a 5c form factor.
The new "cheaper" iMac rumour is different. It's turned up a couple of places. If Jim says "Nope", though, it's unlikely. I wouldn't have been surprised, though, if it was another massive misread of what Apple were doing. Remember how the iPhone 5c was supposed to be a cheap phone? And when it wasn't everyone went mad?
Why would Apple do an iPhone 5S with only 8GB of memory? That make it have only about 4GB for everything else. If Apple includes an micro SD card then it makes a lot of sense but without that; it kind of worthless device.
That's my thought exactly. How the heck would they even market it?
"Look at our absolutely stunning high end device. It may be useless, but isn't it gorgeous? Just use it as a phone and nothing else. Don't take more than a few pictures, and please don't use too many of the other features we've packed into iOS8 because it's not meant for that kind of stuff. What, slow motion video? That's disabled on your device by default. 1080p? Disabled by default. Next question please!"
If they do release an 8G iPhone it's for sales and sales only. It will literally lay waste to customer satisfaction.
Can you imagine?
"Why are you plugging in your phone to update the weather app?"
"Oh, I always have to. It's the 8G model. I have to make sure I delete all my emails, pictures and stuff. Not sure why that "other" category is taking up so much of my phone... Ah crap, won't update. Someone must have texted me too many pictures. I'll have to delete my text messages".
If they take this route it's for money and money only, and it will burn them in the end one way or another. Especially when the difference between 8G and 16G is less than a dollar for you and I and were buying it after wholesale, storage and retail markup. I'm guessing it's pennies to a company who purchases it by the Ton.
The 8G chip is literally on it's way out. It's almost at the point where it cost more to manufacture it, ship it, and pay for all of the accountants who bill it than the companies can make on it.
Well if you're a company that puts your line on customer satisfaction, why sell something that would piss people the **** off?
No offense to you, just stating my extremely diluted opinion.
Why would it piss you off? I see nowhere in this now redacted rumour that they would offer an 8GB iPhone 5S and then cancel all future capacities of 16GB and higher.
Your complaint is like getting upset that the iPod Shuffle is 2GB when you want a larger capacity Nano or Touch.
Why would it piss you off. I say nowhere in this now redacted rumour that they would offer an 8GB iPhone 5S and then cancel all future capacities of 16GB and higher.
Your complain is like getting upset that the iPod Shuffle is 2GB when you want a larger capacity Nano or Touch.
Naught for nothing "Sol", but you've gotten rather abrasive as of late as I've noticed.
I'm not complaining. I can buy what I want.
I'm just thinking that putting a premium phone 'THE PREMIUM' phone and having people, normal people, not tech people get upset over buying it, is not the way to go.
It doesn't really matter what you or I think (and I've a great deal of respect for your former self). In the end what is released is released. So the consequences be weighted.
...and you don't have to compare what I said to some tech item. If you want me to spell it out I will.
Naught for nothing "Sol", but you've gotten rather abrasive as of late as I've noticed.
I'm not complaining. I can buy what I want.
I'm just thinking that putting a premium phone 'THE PREMIUM' phone and having people, normal people, not tech people get upset over buying it, is not the way to go.
It doesn't really matter what you or I think (and I've a great deal of respect for your former self). In the end what is released is released. So the consequences be weighted.
...and you don't have to compare what I said to some tech item. If you want me to spell it out I will.
You've been here since March, have 35 posts and you're already bad mouthing people?
Naught for nothing "Sol", but you've gotten rather abrasive as of late as I've noticed.
I'm not complaining. I can buy what I want.
I'm just thinking that putting a premium phone 'THE PREMIUM' phone and having people, normal people, not tech people get upset over buying it, is not the way to go.
It doesn't really matter what you or I think (and I've a great deal of respect for your former self). In the end what is released is released. So the consequences be weighted.
...and you don't have to compare what I said to some tech item. If you want me to spell it out I will.
1) In what way was I abusive?
2) No one should be upset for choosing to buy a product and having that product do exactly what it stated it could do. If it's a fault unit (which happens) then one can be upset that they drew the very rare but unlucky straw.
3) Note that Apple already sells an 8GB iPhone in several markets where subsidies are not common and income compared to the US is low. I think they even recently brought back the 8GB 4S to India(?)
4) Personally, I'm hoping that they double the capacity and make 16GB the starting point for this 8th generation iPhone (not just offer a 128GB model), especially after that last point update required over a 1GiB for many people for the download+swap space to complete the installation. That said, there is no reason for those wanting a larger capacity iPhone to be pissed (your words) about Apple selling an 8GB model. Either those markets are wanting this or it will not sell and they'll drop it, but since they dropped the 2011 iPhone 4S in September 2013 from 16GB to 8GB and then in March 2014 added an 8GB iPhone 5C it seems there is interest in certain markets for those devices.So ask yourself: Why is Apple selling them if no one wants them? Why stop selling them if they are desirable to certain customers?
You've been here since March, have 35 posts and you're already bad mouthing people?
1) I didn't take it as badmouthing.
2) Who knows how long he was here before creating that account, but I think that even an account since March is more than enough time for him to make an evaluation on that opinion.
How? If you need more space, you’d buy a bigger one.
Perhaps I'm just thinking about it the wrong way. Right now I have an iPhone 5S 64G, and an iPad Air 128G. I can completely see why an 8G anything is a waste of resources at this point. It's only the dollar that's making it special.
What I would have to ask you is, how would your experience change if you only had 8G, and almost half of that was the Operating System? Throw a few texts in there, a few pics, maybe a 'mainstream' app and what left?
Mind you that it's only my opinion, but would just think it will be a horrible user experience.
Also, you're a regular, didn't I read that they were going to do the same thing with the iPhone 4 or 4S supposedly in India or something but canceled it? ...or maybe they didn't. (Analyst cancel), I honestly am not keeping up with all the rumors.
2) Who knows how long he was here before creating that account, but I think that even an account since March is more than enough time for him to make an evaluation on that opinion.
Wow, I didn't think I'd have made such a stir.
I've been reading just about every post since early 2010. ...and you would be remiss if you didn't think your demeanor has changed as of late.
I don't have a single bad thing to say about you. I actually cried when I read your link and posts towards Jorgasta.
You've just been pretty rude lately, that's all. ..,and I honestly say that with the utmost respect. I'm not here to start a fight or shill (I don't even know what shilling is, but I think I get the gist).
How many features of iOS 7, or 8 can you take advantage of with what's left?
Honestly I don't care. Actually I do because I own some stock but not enough to hurt me. What I'm asking is, for a few pennies wouldn't it hurt the user experience quite a bit?
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I'd love to see a reimagining of the old "Luxo" iMac. Large, razor sharp, super thin repositionable Retina screen and the computer and connections in the base (like a half-height Mac Pro).
So? The people buying this phone aren’t the ones using those.
Still, I can buy the iPhone part of this rumor. And if it happens, you can bet the 5S will be the low-end phone come September. Which unfortunately might mean they’re actually making a 5.5” phone; ludicrous. Or they could just have two models, still at the same price points. That works.
I like the update ..... nope
Takes all the fun out of Apple rumours, he does. Still, would have been nice if he'd been able to say something about the Beats thing.
The iPhone rumour didn't make any sense, anyway. As others have said, it's the wrong conference for that announcement, expect something in August or September for the iPhone 6, or iPhone Air or whatever, and then we'll see the low end 5s, which may well be in a 5c form factor.
The new "cheaper" iMac rumour is different. It's turned up a couple of places. If Jim says "Nope", though, it's unlikely. I wouldn't have been surprised, though, if it was another massive misread of what Apple were doing. Remember how the iPhone 5c was supposed to be a cheap phone? And when it wasn't everyone went mad?
That's my thought exactly. How the heck would they even market it?
"Look at our absolutely stunning high end device. It may be useless, but isn't it gorgeous? Just use it as a phone and nothing else. Don't take more than a few pictures, and please don't use too many of the other features we've packed into iOS8 because it's not meant for that kind of stuff. What, slow motion video? That's disabled on your device by default. 1080p? Disabled by default. Next question please!"
If they do release an 8G iPhone it's for sales and sales only. It will literally lay waste to customer satisfaction.
Can you imagine?
"Why are you plugging in your phone to update the weather app?"
"Oh, I always have to. It's the 8G model. I have to make sure I delete all my emails, pictures and stuff. Not sure why that "other" category is taking up so much of my phone... Ah crap, won't update. Someone must have texted me too many pictures. I'll have to delete my text messages".
If they take this route it's for money and money only, and it will burn them in the end one way or another. Especially when the difference between 8G and 16G is less than a dollar for you and I and were buying it after wholesale, storage and retail markup. I'm guessing it's pennies to a company who purchases it by the Ton.
The 8G chip is literally on it's way out. It's almost at the point where it cost more to manufacture it, ship it, and pay for all of the accountants who bill it than the companies can make on it.
Or. You know. You buy the phone you want. Instead of being a moron and buying the one you don’t.
Well if you're a company that puts your line on customer satisfaction, why sell something that would piss people the **** off?
No offense to you, just stating my extremely diluted opinion.
Why would it piss you off? I see nowhere in this now redacted rumour that they would offer an 8GB iPhone 5S and then cancel all future capacities of 16GB and higher.
Your complaint is like getting upset that the iPod Shuffle is 2GB when you want a larger capacity Nano or Touch.
Naught for nothing "Sol", but you've gotten rather abrasive as of late as I've noticed.
I'm not complaining. I can buy what I want.
I'm just thinking that putting a premium phone 'THE PREMIUM' phone and having people, normal people, not tech people get upset over buying it, is not the way to go.
It doesn't really matter what you or I think (and I've a great deal of respect for your former self). In the end what is released is released. So the consequences be weighted.
...and you don't have to compare what I said to some tech item. If you want me to spell it out I will.
I don’t get it. Do you think they will only be selling an 8GB 5S? That’s the only explanation for your complaint here.
Absolutely not. I just think it would both hurt the brand and the user experience. That's all my friend.
It doesn't effect me in the least. I thought we were commenting on rumors.
How? If you need more space, you’d buy a bigger one.
You've been here since March, have 35 posts and you're already bad mouthing people?
1) In what way was I abusive?
2) No one should be upset for choosing to buy a product and having that product do exactly what it stated it could do. If it's a fault unit (which happens) then one can be upset that they drew the very rare but unlucky straw.
3) Note that Apple already sells an 8GB iPhone in several markets where subsidies are not common and income compared to the US is low. I think they even recently brought back the 8GB 4S to India(?)
4) Personally, I'm hoping that they double the capacity and make 16GB the starting point for this 8th generation iPhone (not just offer a 128GB model), especially after that last point update required over a 1GiB for many people for the download+swap space to complete the installation. That said, there is no reason for those wanting a larger capacity iPhone to be pissed (your words) about Apple selling an 8GB model. Either those markets are wanting this or it will not sell and they'll drop it, but since they dropped the 2011 iPhone 4S in September 2013 from 16GB to 8GB and then in March 2014 added an 8GB iPhone 5C it seems there is interest in certain markets for those devices.So ask yourself: Why is Apple selling them if no one wants them? Why stop selling them if they are desirable to certain customers?
1) I didn't take it as badmouthing.
2) Who knows how long he was here before creating that account, but I think that even an account since March is more than enough time for him to make an evaluation on that opinion.
Perhaps I'm just thinking about it the wrong way. Right now I have an iPhone 5S 64G, and an iPad Air 128G. I can completely see why an 8G anything is a waste of resources at this point. It's only the dollar that's making it special.
What I would have to ask you is, how would your experience change if you only had 8G, and almost half of that was the Operating System? Throw a few texts in there, a few pics, maybe a 'mainstream' app and what left?
Mind you that it's only my opinion, but would just think it will be a horrible user experience.
Also, you're a regular, didn't I read that they were going to do the same thing with the iPhone 4 or 4S supposedly in India or something but canceled it? ...or maybe they didn't. (Analyst cancel), I honestly am not keeping up with all the rumors.
That's not accurate.
We don’t reflect the majority of users. Even if we did, this product wouldn’t be for us.
They did, for price concerns, and continued doing it. If they cancelled anything, it was because the device was old.
Wow, I didn't think I'd have made such a stir.
I've been reading just about every post since early 2010. ...and you would be remiss if you didn't think your demeanor has changed as of late.
I don't have a single bad thing to say about you. I actually cried when I read your link and posts towards Jorgasta.
You've just been pretty rude lately, that's all. ..,and I honestly say that with the utmost respect. I'm not here to start a fight or shill (I don't even know what shilling is, but I think I get the gist).
It's quite close. Isn't it?
How many features of iOS 7, or 8 can you take advantage of with what's left?
Honestly I don't care. Actually I do because I own some stock but not enough to hurt me. What I'm asking is, for a few pennies wouldn't it hurt the user experience quite a bit?