You mean the way Steve Jobs was older than Dr. Dre is now back in 1997 and yet under him the iPod, modern Macs, iPhone and iPad, and a plethora of services, like iTunes Music Store were born?
You mean so uncool that Beats By Dre was able to dominate the headphone market's revenue and profits. If you add the claims that they are the worst sounding, work looking, and worst quality headphones yet sold at an inflated price how the hell are the selling? Sounds like definition of cool to me.
What does cool mean?
Cool gets conflated with high quality or stylish or tasteful. Apple possesses all these qualities, but the cool moniker, in my opinion, is something that is bestowed upon it by the young, and only means anything to the young. One grows out of cool; happily, Apple's other qualities can still be appreciated by the old.
Cool gets conflated with high quality or stylish or tasteful. Apple possesses all these qualities, but the cool moniker, in my opinion, is something that is bestowed upon it by the young, and only means anything to the young. One grows out of cool; happily, Apple's other qualities can still be appreciated by the old.
It clearly means any number of things to any number of people at different points in their lives but I think it's inarguable that if something that's deemed (by someone) to be both of poor quality -and- overpriced is dominating a market it must be cook (by that same someone).
Steve Jobs wasn't compared like this to someone seen as the original so to in fact be like Steve, you'd have to never be comparable to Steve, slight oxymoron here but you'd have to be unique just as Steve was. Most of the people used in these kind of comparisons are unique and the use of the comparison is meaningless. The intention seems to be to offer some hope to people who don't want to accept Steve isn't here any more and that particular uniqueness is gone. Elvis wasn't like the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, they have their unique traits and style.
We don't need people to be like Steve but people who follow the same values and who are as passionate about their core interests. Dre and Iovine appear to be these kind of people.
I think it's simpler than that. Steve Jobs was a behemoth; therefore, he becomes the default name to use whenever anyone does something slightly out of the ordinary.
I think it's simpler than that. Steve Jobs was a behemoth; therefore, he becomes the default name to use whenever anyone does something slightly out of the ordinary.
There's a motive behind it though. There's a forced association. It's like saying I brushed my teeth this morning, just like Steve Jobs used to do. The statement doesn't really mean anything important beyond the particular individuals chosen for the association. The similarities chosen are irrelevant because they are so few. They don't really summarize all the characteristics that form what we understand to be the essence of recreating the success those people achieve.
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
I think it's simpler than that. Steve Jobs was a behemoth; therefore, he becomes the default name to use whenever anyone does something slightly out of the ordinary.
There's a motive behind it though. There's a forced association. It's like saying I brushed my teeth this morning, just like Steve Jobs used to do. The statement doesn't really mean anything important beyond the particular individuals chosen for the association. The similarities chosen are irrelevant because they are so few. They don't really summarize all the characteristics that form what we understand to be the essence of recreating the success those people achieve.
I quite agree. And as your examples showed, the supposed similarities were superficial. I was just saying that, essentially, they made a spurious association in order to use his name as click-bait, which I think is what you were implying with your great list of quotes.
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
No offense, but your type (and age) is a diminishing, uninteresting demographic.
He must be pretty old, because for as long as I can remember professional athletes have always been used to sell Wheaties.
Yeah.... can you imagine advertising without (INPO) Jordan, Ali, Federer, Pele, Shumacher, Woods, Bird, Bradman, Laver, Maradona, Nicklaus, Ruth, Gretzky, Beckham..... I could go on forever.
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
Wow, I see you're new to the whole concept of "using celebrities to promote your product". People do give a crap about sport stars. Many worship them and want to be like them. Deal with it.
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You mean the way Steve Jobs was older than Dr. Dre is now back in 1997 and yet under him the iPod, modern Macs, iPhone and iPad, and a plethora of services, like iTunes Music Store were born?
You mean so uncool that Beats By Dre was able to dominate the headphone market's revenue and profits. If you add the claims that they are the worst sounding, work looking, and worst quality headphones yet sold at an inflated price how the hell are the selling? Sounds like definition of cool to me.
What does cool mean?
Cool gets conflated with high quality or stylish or tasteful. Apple possesses all these qualities, but the cool moniker, in my opinion, is something that is bestowed upon it by the young, and only means anything to the young. One grows out of cool; happily, Apple's other qualities can still be appreciated by the old.
It clearly means any number of things to any number of people at different points in their lives but I think it's inarguable that if something that's deemed (by someone) to be both of poor quality -and- overpriced is dominating a market it must be cook (by that same someone).
Dr. Dre is described as a perfectionist, workaholic and someone who relies on their gut -- like late Apple cofounder Steve Jobs.
http://thevarguy.com/business-technology-solution-sales/030314/apple-chief-cook-becoming-more-steve-jobs "Is Apple Chief Cook Becoming More Like Steve Jobs?"
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11814392/1/like-steve-jobs-tim-cook-doesnt-care-about-apple-stock.html "Like Steve Jobs, Tim Cook Doesn't Care About Apple Stock"
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/29/tech/web/jobs-excerpt-cook/ "Like Steve Jobs, Apple's Tim Cook replies to fans' e-mails"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3038199/jony-ive-design-inspiration "Jony Ive, like Steve Jobs, credits his father as design inspiration"
http://www.fastcolabs.com/3021966/just-how-important-is-jony-ive-to-apple "Just like Steve Jobs led a company full of great talent, Ive leads a studio full of great talent."
http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/13/ios_chief_scott_forstall_profiled_as_a_maddeningly_political_mini_steve_jobs
http://www.cultofmac.com/200846/former-apple-engineer-says-firing-scott-forstall-was-a-big-mistake/ "Lopp admits that Forstall was a jerk — just like Steve Jobs could be"
http://www.overthought.org/blog/2013/08/25/scott-forstall-microsoft-ceo "It just so happens that Apple just recently fired the person in the company the most like Steve Jobs, Scott Forstall."
http://www.ibtimes.com/john-browett-why-apple-hired-dixons-ceo-steer-retail-403290 "much like Apple founder Steve Jobs did, Browett refuses to wear a suit and tie."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10405648/John-Sculley-Apple-Misfit-Shine-and-the-future-of-technology.html "We’re in the very early days of sensors," says Sculley. Founder Sonny Vu, he says, "is like Steve Jobs".
http://lowendmac.com/2013/the-story-behind-apples-newton/ "Sculley became the de facto spokesman for the computer industry (like Steve Jobs in 1981), and he granted frequent interviews."
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12533595/1/how-elon-musk-is-like-steve-jobs.html "How Elon Musk Is Like Steve Jobs"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-van-diggelen/can-elon-musk-replace-ste_b_4810773.html "Can Elon Musk Replace Steve Jobs?" ( Musk told me the story of how he met Steve Jobs at a party in Silicon Valley. It did not go well. Even so, Musk says "Steve Jobs is way cooler than I am." )
https://screen.yahoo.com/elon-musk-very-much-steve-132400029.html "Elon Musk very much like Steve Jobs: Isaacson"
http://fortune.com/2011/11/15/silicon-valleys-different-kind-of-power-walk/ "Like Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey believe in the power of long walks to discuss important matters."
http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2012/05/14/apple-co-founder-steve-wozniak-mark-zuckerberg-is-like-steve-jobs-and-me-rolled-into-one/ "Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak: Mark Zuckerberg is like Steve Jobs and me rolled into one"
Steve Jobs wasn't compared like this to someone seen as the original so to in fact be like Steve, you'd have to never be comparable to Steve, slight oxymoron here but you'd have to be unique just as Steve was. Most of the people used in these kind of comparisons are unique and the use of the comparison is meaningless. The intention seems to be to offer some hope to people who don't want to accept Steve isn't here any more and that particular uniqueness is gone. Elvis wasn't like the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, they have their unique traits and style.
We don't need people to be like Steve but people who follow the same values and who are as passionate about their core interests. Dre and Iovine appear to be these kind of people.
I think it's simpler than that. Steve Jobs was a behemoth; therefore, he becomes the default name to use whenever anyone does something slightly out of the ordinary.
There's a motive behind it though. There's a forced association. It's like saying I brushed my teeth this morning, just like Steve Jobs used to do. The statement doesn't really mean anything important beyond the particular individuals chosen for the association. The similarities chosen are irrelevant because they are so few. They don't really summarize all the characteristics that form what we understand to be the essence of recreating the success those people achieve.
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
I think it's simpler than that. Steve Jobs was a behemoth; therefore, he becomes the default name to use whenever anyone does something slightly out of the ordinary.
There's a motive behind it though. There's a forced association. It's like saying I brushed my teeth this morning, just like Steve Jobs used to do. The statement doesn't really mean anything important beyond the particular individuals chosen for the association. The similarities chosen are irrelevant because they are so few. They don't really summarize all the characteristics that form what we understand to be the essence of recreating the success those people achieve.
I quite agree. And as your examples showed, the supposed similarities were superficial. I was just saying that, essentially, they made a spurious association in order to use his name as click-bait, which I think is what you were implying with your great list of quotes.
Can never go wrong with a Jon Stewart clip.
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
No offense, but your type (and age) is a diminishing, uninteresting demographic.
Except in internet forums....
He must be pretty old, because for as long as I can remember professional athletes have always been used to sell Wheaties.
He must be pretty old, because for as long as I can remember professional athletes have always been used to sell Wheaties.
Yeah.... can you imagine advertising without (INPO) Jordan, Ali, Federer, Pele, Shumacher, Woods, Bird, Bradman, Laver, Maradona, Nicklaus, Ruth, Gretzky, Beckham..... I could go on forever.
No offense, but your type (and age) is a diminishing, uninteresting demographic.
Except in internet forums....
I take no offense.
Much of today's youth is obviously about style over substance. That's their loss and their problem, the way I see it.
He must be pretty old, because for as long as I can remember professional athletes have always been used to sell Wheaties.
I can definitely see the connection between an athlete and a cereal. Headphones, not so much.
Except that athletes are seen using the product, because they choose to. I doubt many athletes, if any ate Wheaties as a part of their diet.
Right and $$wealth is always the gauge for success. Apple should hire P Diddy too while they're at it. And Mariah Carey too.
So what do those 3 people have in common? Oh yeah, they're black. Your racism is blatant and despicable.
It wasn't a comparison, This article mean that "Dr. Dre" is very "Steve Jobs"
So what do those 3 people have in common? Oh yeah, they're black. Your racism is blatant and despicable.
No - all 3 of them are successful, and musicians, and multimillionaires. Duh?
Wasn't Scott Forstall supposed to be the next Steve Jobs?
Ashton Kutcher too.
Oh sorry- he IS Steve Jobs.
I thought Mariah Carey was white.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Barnes
I'm not impressed by how Beats uses sports stars to promote their headphones.
Who gives a crap about what sports stars use? Sports stars don't know crap about sound.
If I need to shoot a ball through a hoop, I might take advice from a sports star. If I need to get a new pair of headphones, I will definitely ignore whatever any sports star or celebrity has to say.
Wow, I see you're new to the whole concept of "using celebrities to promote your product". People do give a crap about sport stars. Many worship them and want to be like them. Deal with it.