Dr. Dre painted as resolute perfectionist, compared to Steve Jobs in WSJ profile

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  • Reply 61 of 78
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,385member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    I thought Mariah Carey was white.

     

    She's a mix of African and Cuban. So close enough to black. My point is the same people who are so critical of the Beats deal have also shown racist undertones in their posts. 

  • Reply 62 of 78
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

    Wow, I see you're new to the whole concept of "using celebrities to promote your product" concept. 

     

    I do believe that I'm quite aware of how advertising works, but I can't ever recall buying any Apple product or tech product because of any celebrity endorsement.

  • Reply 63 of 78
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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

     

    I take no offense. 

     

    Much of today's youth is obviously about style over substance. That's their loss and their problem, the way I see it.


    Ironically you can pick ANY decade from the 20th Century and say the same thing about the youth

  • Reply 64 of 78
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Darryn Lowe View Post

    Ironically you can pick ANY decade from the 20th Century and say the same thing about the youth

     

    Not the naughties, teens, or ‘40s.

     

    And if we’re really talking about style over substance, you can’t say much for the ‘80s, either.

  • Reply 65 of 78
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
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    Originally Posted by pazuzu View Post

     

    No - all 3 of them are successful, and musicians, and multimillionaires.  Duh?


     

    Dre could have stopped like the other two, with enough money to last several lifetimes, but he didn't he went on to other things.

     

    Steve Jobs could have retired at 25 with 100 million, he didn't he went on to other things.

     

    The hunger, the will to create, to build, to make the world a better place, to have a vision and act on it, that is where the similarity lies.

  • Reply 66 of 78
    dubidubdubidub Posts: 2member
    All Your Basses Are Belong To Us...
  • Reply 67 of 78
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Ironically you can pick ANY decade from the 20th Century and say the same thing about the youth</span>

    Not the naughties, teens, or ‘40s.

    And if we’re really talking about style over substance, you can’t say much for the ‘80s, either.
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="44319" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/44319/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 400px">

    I feel your apostrophes are the wrong way round. Shouldn’t it be ’80s?
  • Reply 68 of 78
    apple ][ wrote: »
    I take no offense. 

    Much of today's youth is obviously about style over substance. That's their loss and their problem, the way I see it.

    Very well said! Couldn't agree more. See that happening a lot here in Suriname. Now I know that an iPhone is the best smartphone there is. And a lot of people here tend to think the same, because of the celebrities in the ads. So they rush to buy one and don't know about the "handicaps". Can you imagine their surprise when they realize that they can't transfer files the "normal" way. No drag and drop, no Bluetooth. So they still walk around with it for like a month, simply because of the celeb who promoted it, sell it, because they actually just want or need an android. Then they start to hate on the iPhone by saying that you have to buy every app, when in reality they only use whatsapp , Facebook, Instagram, bbm and candy crush on their phone, which are all free!! Simply put, they want to be cool, got influenced by this or that celebrity, but can't handle cool. I always tell people to buy what's best for their everyday use. You want a keyboard? Buy a Q10. You want a big screen? Buy an android. You want the best and eventually some coolness? Buy an iPhone. Don't get influenced. Just buy what you need and f*** cool.
  • Reply 69 of 78
    bensonbenson Posts: 2member
    Iovine and Dre are music industry success stories. Period. Like them or not, they have legitimate power in music. If you disagree with the Beats acquisition, fine. But my money is on proven winners. You can do it better?? THEN DO IT. Talk is cheap.

    By the way, to the people who declare Dre as not "cool": cool has always been and always will be subjective. Nothing can be all-acceptingly cool, some music and tech geeks will always declare something that's popular as "uncool". (If its popular, it CAN'T be cool. Stupid, but many people think this way). So I see it this way: anybody who proves themselves to be successful deserves credit for their success. You can't deny reality. You might hate LeBron James, but you can't say he's not a great BB player.

    As an Apple shareholder, I want proven winners in this company and industry. Apple as a leading tech innovator adding Beats two music industry experts is absolutely brilliant. Naysayers always whine on message boards while real achievers march forward doing great things in both business and music.
  • Reply 70 of 78
    As in Dr. Dre wanted to come out with a line of sneakers for hip hoppers and Jimmy Iovine told him he was a knucklehead and said since you're a musician how about something music related like headphones.

    Dre is no Steve Jobs. He's just a street thug that negatively influences and makes money off of kids that aren't very bright and have little hope.
  • Reply 71 of 78
    chemiclechemicle Posts: 16member

    I'll keep this simple.  If Dr. Dre is "Painted as a resolute perfectionist, compared to Steve Jobs"..... Um...... why does his expensive "Beats" sounds like complete garbage?  To compare this man to Steve Jobs is laughable at best, and frankly I find it absolutely absurd. I had a friend recently receive the top of the line pair of Beats as a gift from his work.  I said - Oh wow - let's give them a test drive.....  I listened to four bars of one of my favourite songs and took them off - started laughing and said.  Wow - garbage...... he said...... I know right?  Glad I didn't pay for them.   This partnership gave Apple a serious hit in my opinion.  It's all about the money now - not about quality.

  • Reply 72 of 78
    almondrocaalmondroca Posts: 179member
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    Originally Posted by AtlApple View Post

     

    Snoop Dog, Ice Cube, Dre was the founder of NWA. Beats hit the target perfectly, people that don't care about sound perfection they want heavy bass to overcome the rest of the music. Not sure what plans Apple has for him but he certainly has a creative mind.


     

    Snoop wasn't in N.W.A., though he does drop the funk as if he were.

  • Reply 73 of 78
    rs9rs9 Posts: 68member
    Think Different. Let's wait and see.
  • Reply 74 of 78
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

    I feel your apostrophes are the wrong way round. Shouldn’t it be ’80s?

     

    Should it? I’m just letting Yosemite automatically insert the right ones. Given that it inserts ‘quotes’ that curve inward automatically after every other space, I’d bet that it’s correct.

  • Reply 75 of 78
    rgh71rgh71 Posts: 125member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    You mean the way Steve Jobs was older than Dr. Dre is now back in 1997 and yet under him the iPod, modern Macs, iPhone and iPad, and a plethora of services, like iTunes Music Store were born?

    You mean so uncool that Beats By Dre was able to dominate the headphone market's revenue and profits. If you add the claims that they are the worst sounding, work looking, and worst quality headphones yet sold at an inflated price how the hell are the selling? Sounds like definition of cool to me.
    Touché! But is Dre as good as Jobs or just lucky once?
  • Reply 76 of 78
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    rgh71 wrote: »
    Touché! But is Dre as good as Jobs or just lucky once?

    Why are those the only two choices? Why can't Dre be a savvy business man but not as good as Jobs in business? And, no, Dre has been successful many time over from starting a band, writing music, creating a label, finding talent (Snoop Dogg Lion, Emininem, and 50 Cent to name a few), to making Beats the most successful headphone company in the world. It's hard to see how all that is just dumb luck without any talent.
  • Reply 77 of 78
    rgh71rgh71 Posts: 125member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    Why are those the only two choices? Why can't Dre be a savvy business man but not as good as Jobs in business? And, no, Dre has been successful many time over from starting a band, writing music, creating a label, finding talent (Snoop Dogg Lion, Emininem, and 50 Cent to name a few), to making Beats the most successful headphone company in the world. It's hard to see how all that is just dumb luck without any talent.

    Completely agree with your point.
  • Reply 78 of 78
    solipsismx wrote: »
    rgh71 wrote: »
    Touché! But is Dre as good as Jobs or just lucky once?

    Why are those the only two choices? Why can't Dre be a savvy business man but not as good as Jobs in business? And, no, Dre has been successful many time over from starting a band, writing music, creating a label, finding talent (Snoop Dogg Lion, Emininem, and 50 Cent to name a few), to making Beats the most successful headphone company in the world. It's hard to see how all that is just dumb luck without any talent.

    A talent for making money from dung.
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