The killer app(s) will be the frameworks that allow third parties to create useful functionality. My guess is that the medical and fitness aspects will be the major sellers. You don't need a wearable to speak, text, browse, etc.
Voice commands could be a big seller for the geeks though I suspect that invoking Siri and telling her to dim the lights in the dining room and turn up the volume on the TV will always be slower than doing it manually
Yup, it could have immediate appeal as an AppleTV/HomeKit remote and Passbook/mobile payment device...
Well, they haven't sold ANY yet all those "millions" are in various analysts dreams so who knows?
That sounds familiar...
"Right now we're selling millions and millions and millions of phones a year; Apple is selling zero phones a year... Let's see how the competition goes."
Yes. I said it was just an opinion, from a consumer; but albeit a pretty representative one. The premise is a simple one: people don't actually *like* wearing watches; they do do so only as a fashion statement. Screens are not very fashionable. I just can't see a girl I a bar be impressed by a screen on a wrist (and yes, it is ALWAYS about what the girls think).
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If you have a 5S, it already has the hardware to do what the Fitbit does. Download a free app like Argus and check it out.
Below is BUSINESS INSIDERS's take on this exact same story lol.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
That website is by idiots, for idiots.
"[Business Insider] CEO and Editor-In-Chief Henry Blodget is a Yale graduate who previously worked on Wall Street, then was fined $2,000,000 as part of a civil suit for fraud, and another $2,000,000 in disgorgement, and was censured and barred from the securities industry by the Securities and Exchange Commission. -Wikipedia
It could be 2.4 inch diagonal and pretty thin (like those curved-display watches we have seen in almost every mockup story).
Yes, if that is the case, it could look very cool (especially the one where the display is the same width as the wrist band) - but this article claims a "slight" rectangle - to me that meant "mostly" a square.
Yes. I said it was just an opinion, from a consumer; but albeit a pretty representative one. The premise is a simple one: people don't actually *like* wearing watches; they do do so only as a fashion statement. Screens are not very fashionable. I just can't see a girl I a bar be impressed by a screen on a wrist (and yes, it is ALWAYS about what the girls think).
Function plays a part, probably a lot more than fashion in these days where wristwatches are an anachronism of people's grandparents...
For ex. I work in a bio research lab where I'm often protectively gloved and handling hazardous materials I wouldn't want to smear all over my iPhone: so to check the time or various additional data having something visually accessible right on my wrist has a purpose. Anyone whose work occupies their hands may have similar needs.
So I wear a wristwatch at work, use my iPhone etc. the rest of the time.
That's fair enough. But look around. Very very few people (especially the ones in their 20's) wear watches. Anyway, we will see what comes out. Maybe it's cool. But a geek-wear won't sell millions. That's not to say I am not intrigued.
That's fair enough. But look around. Very very few people (especially the ones in their 20's) wear watches. Anyway, we will see what comes out. Maybe it's cool. But a geek-wear won't sell millions. That's not to say I am not intrigued.
Similar things were said about Apple's attempts with the iPhone and iPad. At the time it was just something geeks would buy or people for specific uses. In the case of an iPhone it's business executives bought smartphones and those needed a physical keyboard, in the case of the iPad it was people in the field or warehouse that needed to run running on the go, and even with the Mac it was said that real users are faster without that gimmicky GUI and mouse. Yet somehow Apple took their time to perfect devices that would actually work for the public as a whole. At this point I don't see any reason to assume that Apple design something just for geeks.
It seems I was not do wrong with my previous posts: "The source also reiterates that Apple's iWatch will be "positioned as a fashion accessory," which is in line with previous reports from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Kuo has predicted that Apple will release the iWatch at multiple price points and in a variety of materials, competing with low and high-end watches alike. At the higher end, the iWatch could retail for thousands of dollars."
Similar things were said about Apple's attempts with the iPhone and iPad. At the time it was just something geeks would buy or people for specific uses. In the case of an iPhone it's business executives bought smartphones and those needed a physical keyboard, in the case of the iPad it was people in the field or warehouse that needed to run running on the go, and even with the Mac it was said that real users are faster without that gimmicky GUI and mouse. Yet somehow Apple took their time to perfect devices that would actually work for the public as a whole. At this point I don't see any reason to assume that Apple design something just for geeks.
I don't think that's true. I have wanted a smartphone when I was skiing in chile in 1995 (I took out my cellphone and said that there is no reason I should not be able to watch TV and surf the net on it one day). and I definitely wanted an screen-only computer (indeed I bought a laptop one with a screen that swivels). it was just that the existing ones were not good. people want to talk mobile, people want to email mobile. and we want health info. but people do NOT want to look like geeks. that's why I think an invisible wearable device, or really luxury or fashionable, would be great, but not a geeky one with a square screen. we will see.
When it comes to being a rectangle it either is or it isn't. There is nothing slightly about a defining a rectangle.
I was looking for the name of a four sided shape that had two pairs of opposing sides of equal length but the sides were truncated circles sort of like a Reuleaux triangle but with four sides instead of three. I don't think there is a name for this shape.
I'm pretty sure I'm not buying an iWatch. My iPhone screen is already too small. I can't imaging trying to read text on a watch screen. Perhaps it will be useful for telling time, but I don't really care what time it is and my iPhone already does that.
If that's all it did, then I would agree: it is not worth producing. So, if the rumors of its existence are true, it has to do more than show text or tell time.
I would argue that it has to do much more. It should do things that cannot otherwise be done with a phone, or would be too awkward for a phone. And whatever that something is, it must be important to "most people", not just novelty-craving gadget fans, as Samsung seems to have pursued with Gear.
Again, this is just inference. I don't know what Apple is doing.
Then you argue wrong. It doesn't need to do lots of things. It just needs to do a few things really well, much like the iPad.
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If you're old enough to get married, then go for it-get your fit bit. Bear in mind that the rumoured iWatch may not quite match up to the duties of a wife.
It's the shape of every television set from the 80's, viewed in portrait mode.
I think most, if not all, CRTs are like that which means it goes back well before the 1980's, but I have also found that shape purposeful built into a watch for aesthetic reasons dating back to the 1930s.
I think that was what they may trying to achieve that to some degree with some balance between the original iPhone display (which has a 3:2 display which could be stated as a 1:5 aspect ratio) and the casing (which is 2.4" × 4.5" which translates to a 1:1.88 while trying to balance how the mechanics of the device.
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Originally Posted by kiraniumbra
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If half the rumours are true it will range from doing everything FitBit does and more to doing nothing FitBit does and less. I know, I know, that isn't helpful, but we really don't know anything.
Personally, I liked my FitBit Force but that clasp is so bad that not being overly diligent in securing it just once will likely result in it being a waste of $100. Took me about 2 months to lose mine and I thought I was being extra careful.
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The killer app(s) will be the frameworks that allow third parties to create useful functionality. My guess is that the medical and fitness aspects will be the major sellers. You don't need a wearable to speak, text, browse, etc.
Voice commands could be a big seller for the geeks though I suspect that invoking Siri and telling her to dim the lights in the dining room and turn up the volume on the TV will always be slower than doing it manually
Yup, it could have immediate appeal as an AppleTV/HomeKit remote and Passbook/mobile payment device...
Well, they haven't sold ANY yet all those "millions" are in various analysts dreams so who knows?
That sounds familiar...
"Right now we're selling millions and millions and millions of phones a year; Apple is selling zero phones a year... Let's see how the competition goes."
- Steve Ballmer, September 2007
Oh, for crying out loud%u2026!
(sigh)
Edit: Hey, how come 3 dots (dot dot dot) comes out all messed up, as it is after the word "loud" up above? I only have that problem here.
Maybe you used the unicode character 'HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS' (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2026/index.htm) on your iOS keyboard (tap and hold dot on numeric keyboard)?
Even the threads on Apple forums when it comes to wearable hardware doesn't seem to gather insane interest. Unlike the pre iPad rumors.
I recall some genuine interest until Samsung came up with their own wearables which deflated expectations.
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If you have a 5S, it already has the hardware to do what the Fitbit does. Download a free app like Argus and check it out.
Below is BUSINESS INSIDERS's take on this exact same story lol.
That website is by idiots, for idiots.
"[Business Insider] CEO and Editor-In-Chief Henry Blodget is a Yale graduate who previously worked on Wall Street, then was fined $2,000,000 as part of a civil suit for fraud, and another $2,000,000 in disgorgement, and was censured and barred from the securities industry by the Securities and Exchange Commission. -Wikipedia
It could be 2.4 inch diagonal and pretty thin (like those curved-display watches we have seen in almost every mockup story).
Yes, if that is the case, it could look very cool (especially the one where the display is the same width as the wrist band) - but this article claims a "slight" rectangle - to me that meant "mostly" a square.
what's the invitation for the announcement going to say?
i'm going with "it's about time".
"Get strapped"
Yes. I said it was just an opinion, from a consumer; but albeit a pretty representative one. The premise is a simple one: people don't actually *like* wearing watches; they do do so only as a fashion statement. Screens are not very fashionable. I just can't see a girl I a bar be impressed by a screen on a wrist (and yes, it is ALWAYS about what the girls think).
Function plays a part, probably a lot more than fashion in these days where wristwatches are an anachronism of people's grandparents...
For ex. I work in a bio research lab where I'm often protectively gloved and handling hazardous materials I wouldn't want to smear all over my iPhone: so to check the time or various additional data having something visually accessible right on my wrist has a purpose. Anyone whose work occupies their hands may have similar needs.
So I wear a wristwatch at work, use my iPhone etc. the rest of the time.
Similar things were said about Apple's attempts with the iPhone and iPad. At the time it was just something geeks would buy or people for specific uses. In the case of an iPhone it's business executives bought smartphones and those needed a physical keyboard, in the case of the iPad it was people in the field or warehouse that needed to run running on the go, and even with the Mac it was said that real users are faster without that gimmicky GUI and mouse. Yet somehow Apple took their time to perfect devices that would actually work for the public as a whole. At this point I don't see any reason to assume that Apple design something just for geeks.
I don't think that's true. I have wanted a smartphone when I was skiing in chile in 1995 (I took out my cellphone and said that there is no reason I should not be able to watch TV and surf the net on it one day). and I definitely wanted an screen-only computer (indeed I bought a laptop one with a screen that swivels). it was just that the existing ones were not good. people want to talk mobile, people want to email mobile. and we want health info. but people do NOT want to look like geeks. that's why I think an invisible wearable device, or really luxury or fashionable, would be great, but not a geeky one with a square screen. we will see.
I was looking for the name of a four sided shape that had two pairs of opposing sides of equal length but the sides were truncated circles sort of like a Reuleaux triangle but with four sides instead of three. I don't think there is a name for this shape.
Yes there is: slightly rectangular.
I'm pretty sure I'm not buying an iWatch. My iPhone screen is already too small. I can't imaging trying to read text on a watch screen. Perhaps it will be useful for telling time, but I don't really care what time it is and my iPhone already does that.
If that's all it did, then I would agree: it is not worth producing. So, if the rumors of its existence are true, it has to do more than show text or tell time.
I would argue that it has to do much more. It should do things that cannot otherwise be done with a phone, or would be too awkward for a phone. And whatever that something is, it must be important to "most people", not just novelty-craving gadget fans, as Samsung seems to have pursued with Gear.
Again, this is just inference. I don't know what Apple is doing.
Then you argue wrong. It doesn't need to do lots of things. It just needs to do a few things really well, much like the iPad.
It is the same as slightly square but since this reporting comes from the left coast where nobody wants to be square, it is slightly rectangular!
And what is a slightly rectangular???
These reports are getting Ridiculous!
That's a pretty cool explanation.
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If you're old enough to get married, then go for it-get your fit bit. Bear in mind that the rumoured iWatch may not quite match up to the duties of a wife.
It's the shape of every television set from the 80's, viewed in portrait mode.
I think most, if not all, CRTs are like that which means it goes back well before the 1980's, but I have also found that shape purposeful built into a watch for aesthetic reasons dating back to the 1930s.
edit: Pipped by @mstone.
This is Apple so perhaps it is a Golden Rectangle?!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rectangle
I think that was what they may trying to achieve that to some degree with some balance between the original iPhone display (which has a 3:2 display which could be stated as a 1:5 aspect ratio) and the casing (which is 2.4" × 4.5" which translates to a 1:1.88 while trying to balance how the mechanics of the device.
I have a serious question. If even half of these rumours are true, and I gave up paying attention awhile back, will this device perform the same duties as a fitbit ? Or should I just get a fitbit now ? I'm not sure
If half the rumours are true it will range from doing everything FitBit does and more to doing nothing FitBit does and less.
Personally, I liked my FitBit Force but that clasp is so bad that not being overly diligent in securing it just once will likely result in it being a waste of $100. Took me about 2 months to lose mine and I thought I was being extra careful.
Please note that 1980s has no apostrophe.
I will now crawl back into my grammatical grotto.