Google looks to squeeze Apple in emerging markets with new Android One program

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  • Reply 61 of 93
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Relic View Post

     

    Agreed,  I've owned more then a few Android products and the Nexus series have been the only devices in which I was completely satisfied. Sure the likes of HTC and Sony make better featured or even looking phones but the overall package is always missing something or their are so many damn features packed into the thing that it actually takes away from the experience. The Nexus 5 ticks all of the right boxes, performance, quality display, mid-sized, decent build quality, guaranteed updates directly from Google for 5 years and most importantly it is extremely affordable. The same thing goes with Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The best part, because the prices are so affordable you don't have to lock your self into a 2yr contract to pay it off.


     

    My Galaxy Nexus is less than 5 years old, updates stopped quite some time ago.

  • Reply 62 of 93
    theothergeofftheothergeoff Posts: 2,081member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

     

    If Google is really trying to squeeze Apple's hardware business, then Apple should build its own search engine or acquire DuckDuckGo and put the squeeze on Google's search engine business.  It really appears as though Google is definitely trying to step all over Apple's toes by enticing mobile hardware manufacturers to undercut Apple's mobile hardware business.  It really wouldn't cost Apple all that much to have a search engine and optionally enable it on all of Apple's mobile devices in one quick push.  I think that would really take a bite out of Google's search engine business in a very short time.  DuckDuckGo is a pretty decent search engine that gives good results.  Apple could probably carry out this tactic faster than Google can get Android One up and running.  It just seems like a no-brainer for Apple to do to weaken Google's hold on mobile devices.  If Android One is really a threat to Apple then I hate to see Apple sit back and do nothing about it.


     

    "IF"  I think the comments above so the threat is really at the other low cost android manufacturers.   Therefore your ending sentence builds out a sob story that isn't.

     

    Back to the top and deconstructing your non-arguments.

     

    Your first sentence is all about a zero sum game.   It isn't (there is money in ads, and money in promoting content sales [ITMS, google play], and money in hardware.  Apple is content in the latter two, and competing in the first is more Apple's B*tchslap to Google, but it really just wants to keep the ecosystem consistent.   As for search, Apple is providing users choice, and in the app space it is choking off Google at the high end aspects of their revenues stream... apps and app usage (Maps, Siri, Mail, etc.)  Every App not feeding Google's intimate knowledge of the consumer chokes off Google's ability to feed target marketing information. 

     

    And Apple allowing choice on the engines is even better than building your own.  Better 'openness.'

     

    Google has no hold on mobile _devices_.   Samsung has a solid hold, but where Sammy's gripping, Apple doesn't want to sully its hands.

  • Reply 63 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,984member
    hill60 wrote: »
    My Galaxy Nexus is less than 5 years old, updates stopped quite some time ago.

    Supposedly it's because of the Texas Instruments chipset they used, and TI is no longer in the mobile business.
  • Reply 64 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,984member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    For the sake of Android users I hope it works but so far all of Google's efforts for unification of the platform have ranged from failures to bandaids.

    It would behoove Google to do its best in providing a better than decent UX on inexpensive devices. That could potentially get those users to eventually upgrade to a high end Android device instead of a iPhone.
  • Reply 65 of 93
    tastowetastowe Posts: 108member
    I am sick tried of hearing about trolling dukes with their stupid ideas and cheap smartphone. So who care about stupid smartphones.
  • Reply 66 of 93
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,073member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

     

     

    Why?

     

    Doesn't Google search work as well as their ads?


    Perhaps no, because I can't find any of those reports.

     

    Well, Bing also does not find anything

  • Reply 67 of 93
    gtr wrote: »
     
    gatorguy wrote: »
    You're referring to banking malware delivered via "phishing". All the mobile OS's are just as open to that, iOS included.


    Incorrect.

    On Facebook they call that "Vaguebooking." It refers to posting nebulous, incomplete statements in an effort to get people to respond. It's considered a social disorder.

    When I see single-word, contrary posts like that in response to remarks that are obviously true it just makes me think the responder's reading comprehension is poor. If that's not the case and you actually have a reason for your contradiction, you should probably explain it. Otherwise you run the risk of being dismissed as lazy or crazy.

    Sometimes the essence of a statement is a lie, even though it may be factually correct. So it is with Gatorguy's post.
  • Reply 68 of 93
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,894member
    Sometimes the essence of a statement is a lie, even though it may be factually correct. So it is with Gatorguy's post.

    Please explain. Accusations of lying are pretty serious.
  • Reply 69 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,984member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Please explain. Accusations of lying are pretty serious.

    I keep coming back, because I'm just dying to read his explanation.
  • Reply 70 of 93
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Sometimes the essence of a statement is a lie, even though it may be factually correct. So it is with Gatorguy's post.

    Please explain. Accusations of lying are pretty serious.

    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users, which means that they are inherently less susceptible to phishing attacks. So whilst in theory both platform users are vulnerable, Android users are more vulnerable.
  • Reply 71 of 93
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,894member
    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users, which means that they are inherently less susceptible to phishing attacks. So whilst in theory both platform users are vulnerable, Android users are more vulnerable.

    LOL! :D Excellent use of dodge and weave sir.

    How about disposing of the silly, unhelpful and dishonest character attacks from now on and conducting an intelligent discussion when something is worth commenting on. Any kid can sling epitaphs. I think we're all adults here, at least as far as I know.
  • Reply 72 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,984member
    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users, which means that they are inherently less susceptible to phishing attacks. So whilst in theory both platform users are vulnerable, Android users are more vulnerable.

    How are you measuring intelligence?
  • Reply 73 of 93
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users, which means that they are inherently less susceptible to phishing attacks. So whilst in theory both platform users are vulnerable, Android users are more vulnerable.

    How are you measuring intelligence?

    By using my brain.
  • Reply 74 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,984member
    By using my brain.

    And how do we know with absolute certainty that you're intelligent, or that your brain is an effective gauge for intelligence?
  • Reply 75 of 93
    lorin schultzlorin schultz Posts: 2,739member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users

     

    Oh yeah? *I* use iOS, and I'm so stoopid that I paid $200 to add a meagre 24GB of NAND flash to my iPhone! <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 76 of 93
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
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    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

     

     

    My Galaxy Nexus is less than 5 years old, updates stopped quite some time ago.


     

    Actually that is incorrect, you can download the factory images directly from Google here, though 4.3 is the latest version available, if you go to the Nexus developer forums they are also working on 4.4.4. However, if you have a model from a carrier, yes their isn't KitKat, but this isn't Google's fault as the source is available for them to use, that's why I always buy my Nexus phones and tablets directly from Google, unlocked, I will never, ever buy a phone on contract again!. This doesn't mean you're SOL though, if you go to the XDA forum here there are numerous 4.4 ROM's available and because all Nexus devices have an unlocked or easily unlockable bootloader there is a Galaxy Nexus Toolkit available for Windows and Mac that will install whatever you want, it's also idiot proof. I know what your going to say, your not a hacker and you shouldn't have to do this and your right but this is the reality of the situation when you buy an Android phone from a carrier. That being said though the amount of independent developers who work on the Nexus devices almost guarantees that you will always have the latest and greatest even if you buy from a carrier. Also, Google does support their phones and tablets for a very long time but you have to buy from them and pay the unlocked cost, which by the way isn't much, especially when calculate in the premium carriers add to the contract. The Nexus 5 starts at 350 dollars for the 16GB model and 400 for the 32GB.

  • Reply 77 of 93
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
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    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

     

     

    You shouldn't have logged into .me on an Android phone.

     

    ;)




    Haha, it was actually before I had an Android phone, I was rocking a Nokia Communicator at the time and the first gen iPad but I think it was my MacBook that was hacked, who knows, I stopped using .me though.

  • Reply 78 of 93
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users, which means that they are inherently less susceptible to phishing attacks. So whilst in theory both platform users are vulnerable, Android users are more vulnerable.

     

    :mad:

  • Reply 79 of 93
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,448member
    iOS users are more intelligent than Android users...

    Apple ][ is that you?

    Yes, lame. But perhaps you're referring to one of those "Are iPhone users more educated than Android users?" surveys, which can be a fun read, though this one is three years old, so probably useless now:
    "Considering that the most popular apps on the Iphone are games, and with Android, it's customs ROM's, programs, and other "techie" stuff. I think they have it backwards."

    "Considering that most iphone users are preteen girls, I would have to disagree."

    "Amusing .
    IPhone users tend to lead yet they always buy an Iphone ........"


    relic wrote: »
    I will never, ever buy a phone on contract again!


    [...]

    Also, Google does support their phones and tablets for a very long time but you have to buy from them and pay the unlocked cost, which by the way isn't much, especially when calculate in the premium carriers add to the contract.

    I buy directly as well, from Apple, because it is cheaper to get the phone and a phone plan separately.

    Will Google one day tell their partnering carriers they cannot alter Android OS in any way? No OS updates from carriers, only Goole allowing people to update their OS? Feasible?
  • Reply 80 of 93
    crowleycrowley Posts: 5,984member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    Sometimes the essence of a statement is a lie, even though it may be factually correct. So it is with Gatorguy's post.

     <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

     

    What hokum!

     

    What is the "essence" of Gatorguy's post then?

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