I see no reason why that would have to be the case unless the number of NAND chips on the logic board would be doubling instead of simply doubling the NAND chip's capacity. Usage certainly doesn't warrant that a slightly larger display require double the capacity.
If Apple does want thr 5.5" as a "premium model" then I could see them doing that on the storage. Though that wouldn't preclude them from having a 128GB 4.7".
If Apple does want thr 5.5" as a "premium model" then I could see them doing that on the storage. Though that wouldn't preclude them from having a 128GB 4.7".
Trying to find a why I was thinking that a 5.5" would likelyl be much less popular than a 4.7" or 4" device so by making that one have double the capacity it would be a way to get more unit sales for the 5.5" model as well as unit sales of the highest capacity 5.5" model for those that just have to have the most storage which could both reduce cost per unit and increase the average sale price.
If the 5.5" will be sold as the premium phone, it makes sense they would need to add a few features that the cheaper 4.7" lacks lacks like a better camera and more storage. I really hope these mockups are inaccurate about those bezels though. I understand there is little you can shave off of the chin one because of the touchID without making it more oblong than circular, but the forehead could easily be shrunk just by putting all 3 components horizontally. It might be asymmetrical but that is a small price to pay not to introduce a phone that is taller than the competition that offer even larger displays. That is a tremendous amount of what appears to be wasted space. If that extra room is needed for the battery then I would much prefer they make the phone slightly thicker or even wider rather than taller. There is a very good chance a Note 4 might include a 6" screen and be a smaller phone than the 5.5" iPhone if that mockup is accurate.
I really would prefer if they stopped making the phone bigger -- I get that there's a need in the market, so they want a bigger option, but why is the small one getting bigger also? I want my phone as small as possible while maintaining function; until they make a clamshell iPhone, people like me will contemplate a switch every time the increase the size of this thing.
It is ad these rumors from obvious android fans(background) that they want a iPhablet with higher specs then the lower model.
A "switch" to what, exactly? You do know that there won't be a single smaller premium phone offered by anyone else, right? That's why Apple can safely enlarge the sizes. People that don't like it don't have viable options for a smaller size from anyone else anyway.
large part of market is still into smaller devices and apples not the only with mini options. There should always be options for everybody but what you say may sadly be true.
I really hope these rumors aren't true. Some people don't want an "iPhablet". Why should they have to settle for inferior options just because they prefer a smaller size? Plus Apple's pretty much gone away from that differentiation with the iPad. Don't see why the iPhone should be different.
They come out with the 128 gig option and it's only for the larger screen? That would really suck. I'm still holding out hope for a 4 inch phone that gives a 128 gig option then I can just tell Apple
I'm hoping that too, that these 5.5 inch rumors are trash and there is a 4.7 inch and a 4 inch with 4 inch have low end option.
I really dont like all these rumors pointing out that the 5,5" will contain more features than the 4,7". Imo they should be the same in hardware, just a difference in size (and battery capacity ofc).
I really would prefer if they stopped making the phone bigger -- I get that there's a need in the market, so they want a bigger option, but why is the small one getting bigger also? I want my phone as small as possible while maintaining function; until they make a clamshell iPhone, people like me will contemplate a switch every time the increase the size of this thing.
Nobody knows exactly what Apple is going to be doing with the iPhone 6. The press is fixated on larger iPhones. But, get this... No matter what Apple does, the press and analysts will purposely write negative articles and research notes about what Apple does. Here is a recent example. Bloomberg has chosen to write the following about the larger iPhones...
There are just two problems with Apple's plan to portray a big-screen iPhone as this fall's major "innovation." It's a copycat move, and it's a move away from the product-line asceticism Steve Jobs fought hard to institute after his Apple comeback in 1996. "Focus," he kept telling his employees, who had come to believe in marketing-driven diversity under Sculley and his barely remembered successors. It was that policy that resulted in Apple's producing only one iPhone model at a time under Jobs.
Under CEO Tim Cook, Apple has already departed from this principled stand by offering the slightly cheaper, colorful iPhone 5C last year. It did not do as well as the flagship 5S. That should have taught Apple to stick to its Jobs DNA and release one model in 2014, perhaps with a larger screen. But that European research on phablets looked troubling, and Apple is going with two different-sized models.
We have to get used to the fact that, despite its pedigree, Apple is now just another player -- albeit an exceptionally strong one -- in a commodity market. Sculley now plans a smartphone made for the Indian market. Here's a quote from the marketing guru who couldn't live with the way Jobs did things: "We feel there is an opportunity to build another brand in India that would combine global branding skills .. (and) go into price points that are more like the local brands."
The fact that Bloomberg has repeatedly written negative articles about why should produce larger screen iPhones is being thrown away to write negative articles about why Apple has lost focus for producing larger screen iPhones.
Tim Cook apparently cannot compare effectively with Steve Jobs nor John Sculley when it comes to producing iPhones.
I really do not see any reason Apple would eliminate a 4 inch iPhone 6 from the line up.
Meh, I seriously fail to see Apple releasing a 5.5" iPhone. Phablets are gimmicks. They're the netbooks of today - a fad. An extreme. Much in the same vein as when mobile phones kept getting smaller and smaller.
There'll be a 4" and 4.7" iPhone 6. Redesigned - nothing that looks like these fugly mockups. (Jony worked on the software design last year, expect a new design of the same level in hardware this year.)
IF anything is released with a 5.5" display, it will be an iPod touch aimed at gaming/entertainment.
I have a 5s 64Gb now and keep approx 5000 photos, 3000 songs and a ridiculous 125-ish apps (many of which I don't use regularly) and still find an adequate 6.5 to 8Gb space to play with (actual empty space).
Note that you're not storing any video. That's the major space hog. Add a few TV shows for watching on the way to work and some home movies and you quickly find yourself having to swap stuff out almost every day.
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Originally Posted by Damn_Its_Hot
[...] I just don't see a need with the iCloud option to push a 128Gb device.
Cloud storage is not yet a ubiquitous solution. In the places I'm likely to be using stored content -- like on the street, on transit, at the park -- there is no WiFi. I can obviously use cellular data, but just two or three hours of YouTube or NetFlix (or iCloud) will chew up my entire data allotment for a month. On the subway there's no signal at all, so if I want to consume media there my only option is local storage.
ICloud is a benefit but not yet a solution. Until/unless wireless data becomes universally available with large, affordable limits, I don't see the need for substantial local storage going away. There's a cost of ownership either way, either up front for more local storage or over time through higher cellular data costs. Since the former is faster and available everywhere, I'd rather go with that.
If they have only 128Gboption available on the BIG6 then it is destined to fail. I would like a 64Gb myself and think that would provide adequate space. The docs will be a bit larger and the BIG6 icons and controls will take more space, but not that much more. I have a 5s 64Gb now and keep approx 5000 photos, 3000 songs and a ridiculous 125-ish apps (many of which I don't use regularly) and still find an adequate 6.5 to 8Gb space to play with (actual empty space). I just don't see a need with the iCloud option to push a 128Gb device. I am sure there are folx with use cases that support that much memory but none that I can think of -- especially at the price they will end up at. I think Apple will have at least a 64Gb and 128Gb.
Give me a rigid case so that the BIG6 screen does not break and then stuff every nook and cranny with battery. You don't need to shave off another 0.5 mm to make it slimmer. I would love to be able to do more stuff on my iPhone that I am pushed to my iPad (or my iMac 27) for because it is just to small. And let me use it with GPS and BT on without watching the battery drain like there is a hole in it. I also assume the new processor will consume a bit more juice and managing the larger screen will as will the OIS since it is mechanical. All this screams 'more battery' to me.
That's what "OPTION" actually means: more than one size of storage.... for the 4.7 64 is enough for me but if the image files are scaled up I'd probably consider a 128 for the larger screen phone, somewhat as I did for my iPad Air where I chose 128 (and currently only have about 25 open).
Trying to find a why I was thinking that a 5.5" would likelyl be much less popular than a 4.7" or 4" device so by making that one have double the capacity it would be away to get more unit sales as well as unit sales of the highest capacity for those that just have to have the most storage which could both reduce cost per unit and increase the average sale price.
You're welcome.
That's to all the people whose lower-capacity iPhone purchases I subsidize every time I grit my teeth, shit a brick and pay an extra TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A FEW LOUSY GIGABYTES OF STORAGE!
This is a terrible idea. How many of us have stuck with iPhones because the form factor, but we want the high end model. This forces many loyal customers to choose between the form factor we want or the features we want. I personally don't want to lug around this ridiculous huge slab just so I can have a phone with 128gb and optical image stabilisation. And I need more than the 64Gb. The 4.7" seems the perfect compromise for a larger screen size without becoming a ridiculous slab, why cripple the specs. Crazy.
For 100 Dollars more than the 4.7" version with contract you get a 5.5" FullHD display and double the amount of Flash memory - makes sense and is worth the premium, but depriving the 4.7" version of OIS is not a good idea considering much of the competition has it already or will be getting it soon, with model upgrades...and it is the official flagship.
Ugh! This has to be the silliest comment I've read in a while. 128GB of storage would take up no extra physical space inside the phone. It will be in the same place as all the other models.
With iP6-big = Have only 64Gb and boost the battery capacity with the other "64Gb of space" that would been used to the 128Gb space in phone...
5 cubic centimeters isn’t worth this nonsense.
…take away the lighting cable…
Nonsense again. You’re increasing power draw by ~40% and gaining absolutely no benefit with battery.
Originally Posted by Slurpy
You do know that there won't be a single smaller premium phone offered by anyone else, right?
So then people won’t be buying new phones. I guess that’s what Apple wants?
That's why Apple can safely enlarge the sizes.
That’s the opposite of why.
People that don't like it don't have viable options for a smaller size from anyone else anyway.
Which, again, is why they just won’t be buying new phones.
Originally Posted by Daekwan
Doesnt make sense. Because Money.
It makes the opposite of not sense. Because money.
The thinking behind this rumor is justifiable. Simply because APPLE ALREADY DOES THIS ON THEIR COMPUTERS, AND ALWAYS HAS. Thing is, on their computers. Not their iDevices.
Originally Posted by gwmac
I really hope these mockups are inaccurate about those bezels though. I understand there is little you can shave off of the chin one because of the touchID without making it more oblong than circular, but the forehead could easily be shrunk just by putting all 3 components horizontally. It might be asymmetrical but that is a small price to pay not to introduce a phone that is taller than the competition that offer even larger displays. That is a tremendous amount of what appears to be wasted space.
No, you don’t. This isn’t what you think. You demand a larger screen, as does literally every single other person on the planet. As big as possible. To hell with usability. You couldn’t care less about this. You just want big.
It makes the opposite of not sense. Because money.
Still doesn't make sense.
Not everyone wants to walk around talking on a flatscreen monitor. There are plenty of people like myself who do have the storage needs for 128GB of space on their smartphone.. but simply do not want to look like a circus clown talking on a 5.5" screen phone.
Ugh! This has to be the silliest comment I've read in a while. 128GB of storage would take up no extra physical space inside the phone. It will be in the same place as all the other models.
You can't know that. I don't think it's likely that Apple would use 2 NAND modules in the 5.5" model because of the additional volume as they don't do that now with the iPads but it's also not unprecedented.
That’s what I said. I’ll assume you’re directing the insult at him.
That’s not the argument here. Please read posts before replying.
You are confusing yourself. Maybe you need to go back and re-read, what I wrote before you reply again.
I said Apple will offer the 128GB size on both the 4.7" & 5.5" models simply because many people do not want a ridiculously large screened smartphone, but still have the need for alot of storage.
I said Apple will offer the 128GB size on both the 4.7" & 5.5" models simply because many people do not want a ridiculously large screened smartphone, but still have the need for alot of storage.
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umm iCloud pricing has changed.. it's $.99 /mo for 20GB or $3.99/mo for 200GB
You quoted OLD pricing in article..
Uh, no, that pricing was announced but hasn't been made available yet. I know, because I just recently paid the 20GB for $40 rate.
If Apple does want thr 5.5" as a "premium model" then I could see them doing that on the storage. Though that wouldn't preclude them from having a 128GB 4.7".
Trying to find a why I was thinking that a 5.5" would likelyl be much less popular than a 4.7" or 4" device so by making that one have double the capacity it would be a way to get more unit sales for the 5.5" model as well as unit sales of the highest capacity 5.5" model for those that just have to have the most storage which could both reduce cost per unit and increase the average sale price.
If the 5.5" will be sold as the premium phone, it makes sense they would need to add a few features that the cheaper 4.7" lacks lacks like a better camera and more storage. I really hope these mockups are inaccurate about those bezels though. I understand there is little you can shave off of the chin one because of the touchID without making it more oblong than circular, but the forehead could easily be shrunk just by putting all 3 components horizontally. It might be asymmetrical but that is a small price to pay not to introduce a phone that is taller than the competition that offer even larger displays. That is a tremendous amount of what appears to be wasted space. If that extra room is needed for the battery then I would much prefer they make the phone slightly thicker or even wider rather than taller. There is a very good chance a Note 4 might include a 6" screen and be a smaller phone than the 5.5" iPhone if that mockup is accurate.
large part of market is still into smaller devices and apples not the only with mini options. There should always be options for everybody but what you say may sadly be true.
its stupid.
I'm hoping that too, that these 5.5 inch rumors are trash and there is a 4.7 inch and a 4 inch with 4 inch have low end option.
ofcourse
Nobody knows exactly what Apple is going to be doing with the iPhone 6. The press is fixated on larger iPhones. But, get this... No matter what Apple does, the press and analysts will purposely write negative articles and research notes about what Apple does. Here is a recent example. Bloomberg has chosen to write the following about the larger iPhones...
There are just two problems with Apple's plan to portray a big-screen iPhone as this fall's major "innovation." It's a copycat move, and it's a move away from the product-line asceticism Steve Jobs fought hard to institute after his Apple comeback in 1996. "Focus," he kept telling his employees, who had come to believe in marketing-driven diversity under Sculley and his barely remembered successors. It was that policy that resulted in Apple's producing only one iPhone model at a time under Jobs.
Under CEO Tim Cook, Apple has already departed from this principled stand by offering the slightly cheaper, colorful iPhone 5C last year. It did not do as well as the flagship 5S. That should have taught Apple to stick to its Jobs DNA and release one model in 2014, perhaps with a larger screen. But that European research on phablets looked troubling, and Apple is going with two different-sized models.
We have to get used to the fact that, despite its pedigree, Apple is now just another player -- albeit an exceptionally strong one -- in a commodity market. Sculley now plans a smartphone made for the Indian market. Here's a quote from the marketing guru who couldn't live with the way Jobs did things: "We feel there is an opportunity to build another brand in India that would combine global branding skills .. (and) go into price points that are more like the local brands."
The fact that Bloomberg has repeatedly written negative articles about why should produce larger screen iPhones is being thrown away to write negative articles about why Apple has lost focus for producing larger screen iPhones.
Tim Cook apparently cannot compare effectively with Steve Jobs nor John Sculley when it comes to producing iPhones.
I really do not see any reason Apple would eliminate a 4 inch iPhone 6 from the line up.
iphonelogy.com
Meh, I seriously fail to see Apple releasing a 5.5" iPhone. Phablets are gimmicks. They're the netbooks of today - a fad. An extreme. Much in the same vein as when mobile phones kept getting smaller and smaller.
There'll be a 4" and 4.7" iPhone 6. Redesigned - nothing that looks like these fugly mockups. (Jony worked on the software design last year, expect a new design of the same level in hardware this year.)
IF anything is released with a 5.5" display, it will be an iPod touch aimed at gaming/entertainment.
I have a 5s 64Gb now and keep approx 5000 photos, 3000 songs and a ridiculous 125-ish apps (many of which I don't use regularly) and still find an adequate 6.5 to 8Gb space to play with (actual empty space).
Note that you're not storing any video. That's the major space hog. Add a few TV shows for watching on the way to work and some home movies and you quickly find yourself having to swap stuff out almost every day.
[...] I just don't see a need with the iCloud option to push a 128Gb device.
Cloud storage is not yet a ubiquitous solution. In the places I'm likely to be using stored content -- like on the street, on transit, at the park -- there is no WiFi. I can obviously use cellular data, but just two or three hours of YouTube or NetFlix (or iCloud) will chew up my entire data allotment for a month. On the subway there's no signal at all, so if I want to consume media there my only option is local storage.
ICloud is a benefit but not yet a solution. Until/unless wireless data becomes universally available with large, affordable limits, I don't see the need for substantial local storage going away. There's a cost of ownership either way, either up front for more local storage or over time through higher cellular data costs. Since the former is faster and available everywhere, I'd rather go with that.
If they have only 128Gb option available on the BIG6 then it is destined to fail. I would like a 64Gb myself and think that would provide adequate space. The docs will be a bit larger and the BIG6 icons and controls will take more space, but not that much more. I have a 5s 64Gb now and keep approx 5000 photos, 3000 songs and a ridiculous 125-ish apps (many of which I don't use regularly) and still find an adequate 6.5 to 8Gb space to play with (actual empty space). I just don't see a need with the iCloud option to push a 128Gb device. I am sure there are folx with use cases that support that much memory but none that I can think of -- especially at the price they will end up at. I think Apple will have at least a 64Gb and 128Gb.
Give me a rigid case so that the BIG6 screen does not break and then stuff every nook and cranny with battery. You don't need to shave off another 0.5 mm to make it slimmer. I would love to be able to do more stuff on my iPhone that I am pushed to my iPad (or my iMac 27) for because it is just to small. And let me use it with GPS and BT on without watching the battery drain like there is a hole in it. I also assume the new processor will consume a bit more juice and managing the larger screen will as will the OIS since it is mechanical. All this screams 'more battery' to me.
That's what "OPTION" actually means: more than one size of storage.... for the 4.7 64 is enough for me but if the image files are scaled up I'd probably consider a 128 for the larger screen phone, somewhat as I did for my iPad Air where I chose 128 (and currently only have about 25 open).
Trying to find a why I was thinking that a 5.5" would likelyl be much less popular than a 4.7" or 4" device so by making that one have double the capacity it would be away to get more unit sales as well as unit sales of the highest capacity for those that just have to have the most storage which could both reduce cost per unit and increase the average sale price.
You're welcome.
That's to all the people whose lower-capacity iPhone purchases I subsidize every time I grit my teeth, shit a brick and pay an extra TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A FEW LOUSY GIGABYTES OF STORAGE!
Thanks, I feel better now.
This is a terrible idea. How many of us have stuck with iPhones because the form factor, but we want the high end model. This forces many loyal customers to choose between the form factor we want or the features we want. I personally don't want to lug around this ridiculous huge slab just so I can have a phone with 128gb and optical image stabilisation. And I need more than the 64Gb. The 4.7" seems the perfect compromise for a larger screen size without becoming a ridiculous slab, why cripple the specs. Crazy.
Ugh! This has to be the silliest comment I've read in a while. 128GB of storage would take up no extra physical space inside the phone. It will be in the same place as all the other models.
5 cubic centimeters isn’t worth this nonsense.
Nonsense again. You’re increasing power draw by ~40% and gaining absolutely no benefit with battery.
So then people won’t be buying new phones. I guess that’s what Apple wants?
That’s the opposite of why.
Which, again, is why they just won’t be buying new phones.
It makes the opposite of not sense. Because money.
The thinking behind this rumor is justifiable. Simply because APPLE ALREADY DOES THIS ON THEIR COMPUTERS, AND ALWAYS HAS. Thing is, on their computers. Not their iDevices.
No, you don’t. This isn’t what you think. You demand a larger screen, as does literally every single other person on the planet. As big as possible. To hell with usability. You couldn’t care less about this. You just want big.
It makes the opposite of not sense. Because money.
Still doesn't make sense.
Not everyone wants to walk around talking on a flatscreen monitor. There are plenty of people like myself who do have the storage needs for 128GB of space on their smartphone.. but simply do not want to look like a circus clown talking on a 5.5" screen phone.
You can't know that. I don't think it's likely that Apple would use 2 NAND modules in the 5.5" model because of the additional volume as they don't do that now with the iPads but it's also not unprecedented.
Still doesn't make sense. Because douchebag.
That’s what I said. I’ll assume you’re directing the insult at him.
That’s not the argument here. Please read posts before replying.
That’s what I said. I’ll assume you’re directing the insult at him.
That’s not the argument here. Please read posts before replying.
You are confusing yourself. Maybe you need to go back and re-read, what I wrote before you reply again.
I said Apple will offer the 128GB size on both the 4.7" & 5.5" models simply because many people do not want a ridiculously large screened smartphone, but still have the need for alot of storage.
I said Apple will offer the 128GB size on both the 4.7" & 5.5" models simply because many people do not want a ridiculously large screened smartphone, but still have the need for alot of storage.
Yep. And I’m all for that. As already stated.