<strong>How does illustrator work? Do you use lines and add textures and color or is it a 3d modeling app. I have never used it, I have seen it demoed at MW Keynotes I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's a vector/Postscript drawing program. Lines, shapes and fills, basically. And great type control. Nothing really 3D about it, but you have some basic distortion, along with skew, rotate, scale and reflect tools and VERY powerful Pathfinder tools that let you combine and extract shapes from simple forms, thereby avoiding a lot of actual hardcore "drawing".
Just a drawing program, really. Only it's not pixel-based like Photoshop.
Illustrator is excellent. I love using it and the way it is easily scriptable in Mac OS X.
Just today I made a script to speed up me having to go into Illustrator, and set the type of a text box. It is great for web pages that have similar items but different colors or text. Here is the code for a simple item. It involves setting the name of a text object::[code] tell application "Adobe Illustrator 10"
\tactivate
\tdisplay dialog "What do you want the text to be?" default answer "Camp Nebagamon" with icon «class aiNT»
\tset theName to the text returned of the result
\ttell document 1
\t\tset the contents of «class cTXa» "Name" to theName
\tend tell
end tell</pre><hr></blockquote>
Next, I want to figure out how to script the Save for Web box so I just set the text, and watch it upload to my server. GO APPLESCRIPT
BTW pscates, how'd you learn to Illustrate like that? I love Illustrator but havn't been able to come close to that kind of style... My stuff is always more technical or Animeish... (as you can see)
I'd love to know where I could learn to render like that... It'd really help out a lot when I'm forcing myself out of my comfort zones when designing...
Gee, I don't know. It's just how I draw? I've never been particularly "artsy" or an expressive, free-flowing painterly type of guy.
Bold, flat colors, hard edges, crispness and precision all appeal to me more, I guess.
I've doodled my entire life, but aside from a couple of books (reference mostly, not "how to" guides), I've just latched onto Illustrator and figured stuff out as I went.
Even when I'm just messing around with a pencil or pen and paper, I still draw in a goofy, simplified, borderline geometric way.
If I were famous, it would be called "a singular style". But since I'm not famous, it's called "not knowing what I'm doing and making it up as I go...".
Actually, Illustrator is WAY easier to get a grip on than Photoshop. What I'm impressed by are people who can bend Photoshop to their will, using channels, layer masks and all these obscure hidden features/tools/operations.
Illustrator is a walk in the park compared to its pixel-based sibling! In my opinion, anyway.
I totally agree... What I'd do to sit in your room and just watch you work. (that's how I learn)
[quote] What I'm impressed by are people who can bend Photoshop to their will, using channels, layer masks and all these obscure hidden features/tools/operations. <hr></blockquote>
This is what I started out with... I attended a TON of Photoshop Conferences and have learned a LOT... hell I even found out stuff that the dude teaching the class didn't know... but he was still WAY better than me. Photoshop is just that way... there's something close to like 1 million different things Photoshop can do and it increases with each version so I don't think there is one man who knows it all....
But you a very right in that Illustrator is VERY easy to latch onto... it bugs me when I see people struggling in it... I usually help them with the basics cause after that they all go *ping!* I get it!!!
This isn't exactly "artwork" but it's an upcoming graphic design with a digital artwork element. It's the CD booklet (exterior spread, front and back cover) for my upcoming CD.
Here are a couple of my pieces and there's more at my web page. Some are digital, others are hand done, and a few are hybrid; begun by hand and tweaked digitally.
These were built in Bryce and/or Strata first, rendered in Bryce and finished in Photoshop.
(A little background, that's Wyntir with his Uchiwa Of Death.)
Is your latest some kind of Rorschach thing?
I did a bit of real art once in high school, we had canvases in art class and I painted some P-51s flying over some fields shooting peppermints. I think it was a rip-off of someone else's painting but maybe not.
<strong>Is your latest some kind of Rorschach thing?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, it's me mocking pretentious artist types who have the balls to "paint" a white canvas and then would actually say something like that and then have the idiotic elite suck their ass, swoon uncontrollably over it and take them seriously.
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<strong>How does illustrator work? Do you use lines and add textures and color or is it a 3d modeling app. I have never used it, I have seen it demoed at MW Keynotes I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's a vector/Postscript drawing program. Lines, shapes and fills, basically. And great type control. Nothing really 3D about it, but you have some basic distortion, along with skew, rotate, scale and reflect tools and VERY powerful Pathfinder tools that let you combine and extract shapes from simple forms, thereby avoiding a lot of actual hardcore "drawing".
Just a drawing program, really. Only it's not pixel-based like Photoshop.
Just today I made a script to speed up me having to go into Illustrator, and set the type of a text box. It is great for web pages that have similar items but different colors or text. Here is the code for a simple item. It involves setting the name of a text object::[code] tell application "Adobe Illustrator 10"
\tactivate
\tdisplay dialog "What do you want the text to be?" default answer "Camp Nebagamon" with icon «class aiNT»
\tset theName to the text returned of the result
\ttell document 1
\t\tset the contents of «class cTXa» "Name" to theName
\tend tell
end tell</pre><hr></blockquote>
Next, I want to figure out how to script the Save for Web box so I just set the text, and watch it upload to my server. GO APPLESCRIPT
[ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Nebagakid ]</p>
Mac Guru
I'd love to know where I could learn to render like that... It'd really help out a lot when I'm forcing myself out of my comfort zones when designing...
BTW, AWESOME stuff.
Mac Guru
Bold, flat colors, hard edges, crispness and precision all appeal to me more, I guess.
I've doodled my entire life, but aside from a couple of books (reference mostly, not "how to" guides), I've just latched onto Illustrator and figured stuff out as I went.
Even when I'm just messing around with a pencil or pen and paper, I still draw in a goofy, simplified, borderline geometric way.
If I were famous, it would be called "a singular style". But since I'm not famous, it's called "not knowing what I'm doing and making it up as I go...".
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Actually, Illustrator is WAY easier to get a grip on than Photoshop. What I'm impressed by are people who can bend Photoshop to their will, using channels, layer masks and all these obscure hidden features/tools/operations.
Illustrator is a walk in the park compared to its pixel-based sibling! In my opinion, anyway.
[quote] What I'm impressed by are people who can bend Photoshop to their will, using channels, layer masks and all these obscure hidden features/tools/operations. <hr></blockquote>
This is what I started out with... I attended a TON of Photoshop Conferences and have learned a LOT... hell I even found out stuff that the dude teaching the class didn't know... but he was still WAY better than me. Photoshop is just that way... there's something close to like 1 million different things Photoshop can do and it increases with each version so I don't think there is one man who knows it all....
But you a very right in that Illustrator is VERY easy to latch onto... it bugs me when I see people struggling in it... I usually help them with the basics cause after that they all go *ping!* I get it!!!
Mac Guru
"Flamingos", pastel on canson paper. Always get good remarks on this old drawing.
"Dead Bears" is a pen and ink drawing, scanned and colored in Photoshop. Strange but my interpretation of them...
"Shi", comic book character. Pen and ink, scanned and colored in Photoshop.
<a href="http://www.artshack.com/penandink.html"; target="_blank">More</a> and <a href="http://www.artshack.com/comix.html"; target="_blank">more</a> stuff...
These were built in Bryce and/or Strata first, rendered in Bryce and finished in Photoshop.
<a href="http://www.ricklovell.com"; target="_blank">More art on my web page...</a>
[ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: riclov ]</p>
anyways rather than clutter...here is my itools page
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/megetheriotron/PhotoAlbum.html"; target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/megetheriotron/PhotoAlbum.html</a>;
most of its pretty crude, back when 5.5 was hot
bryce 5 is super, though I don't do much 3-d anything these days
Speaking of orange, where's that big pretty longhorn logo?
That's AWESOME!
Is your latest some kind of Rorschach thing?
I did a bit of real art once in high school, we had canvases in art class and I painted some P-51s flying over some fields shooting peppermints. I think it was a rip-off of someone else's painting but maybe not.
<strong>Is your latest some kind of Rorschach thing?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, it's me mocking pretentious artist types who have the balls to "paint" a white canvas and then would actually say something like that and then have the idiotic elite suck their ass, swoon uncontrollably over it and take them seriously.