Being completely transparent- I use my parent's account's log-in and I recently cut the cord several months ago. I started paying their portion of my Cellphone bill, and in return, I use their log-in credentials. It wasn't that I couldn't afford cable- I mean- with the combo promo that U-Verse had with my internet, it was maybe $35/month to add most channels. But it was more a matter of me not wanting to just have the TV on for no good reason- which I found myself doing. Bored on a saturday? Just flip on HGTV. My viewing is now deliberate- and I bought the latest Mad Men season via iTunes instead of just viewing it with cable like I used to.
Psst: You can get CNBC for free and without a cable subscription with the Ameritrade Trader app on iOS. It even works with a cellular connection. Video quality is low but so its its bandwidth usage. I don't think you even need an Ameritrade account to use it.
Stealing cable is a crime. Using someone else's credentials is stealing. Sneaking into a movie theater is a crime as well. Now, you can argue that none of these actions actually cost the cable provider any significant $$, but that doesn't make it less illegal.
That being said, I have absolutely ZERO intention of ever purchasing a cable package, so these new channels are completely useless to me. I wish that AppleTV would have a way to purchase subscriptions based on the Apple ID instead of some third party package. Until that happens, there's no chance of me ever getting these channels.
Being completely transparent- I use my parent's account's log-in and I recently cut the cord several months ago. I started paying their portion of my Cellphone bill, and in return, I use their log-in credentials. It wasn't that I couldn't afford cable- I mean- with the combo promo that U-Verse had with my internet, it was maybe $35/month to add most channels. But it was more a matter of me not wanting to just have the TV on for no good reason- which I found myself doing. Bored on a saturday? Just flip on HGTV. My viewing is now deliberate- and I bought the latest Mad Men season via iTunes instead of just viewing it with cable like I used to.
I call it "sharing"
Cutting the cord certainly changes one's viewing habits, you're right.
For myself, I realized some months ago that we were only watching shows that we could catch on prime time channels or Hulu Plus anyway. My kids never watch TV - they'll use Netflix or Hulu Plus. So the decision was easy. It was actually an afterthought about borrowing my friends' login info for a handful of 'channels' i can't get otherwise. And if I can't find a channel (Discovery, looking at you) I buy what I want in iTunes.
It is stealing. It does not matter if you are paying your friend. Its between you and the cable company not you and your friend. Thanks for raising prices for the rest of the honest subscribers.
No problem. I certainly hope you don't use any friends' wifi, do you?
all in all, this is the first step in building a 'ala carte' internet delivery system. First work out the delivery and staging bugs. Cable is paying for the content now, and has regional/municipal exclusivity rights for people living in those locales. As those contracts are renegotiated, the need for having a cable contract to view what is currently on cable channels will be reduced, and you'll pay with your AppleID on a per view basis (likely a rental/season pass sort of thing), or at least get access without a cable countract after the 'first view period' is up.
An in the interim, Apple is building up the content and (hopefully) building out these ATV channels to a standard that fits into the 'future' UI that is searchable and personalizable.
Look at the long view people. These are good things happening...
Stop trying to justify your criminal ways by deflecting your guilt.
My contract with the ISP allows for wifi use in my home and surround area.
Your's is a totally different situation. If you are roommates fine. But you are living in SEPARATE HOUSES!
It was an arrangement between friends: Bonnie and Clyde.
I can't believe you can't see that thief is involved. Just man up and admit it and move on.
You're welcome to define it any way you choose, I've nothing to admit. I watch 50% of my TV on the local channels/affiliates. The other 40% on Hulu/Netflix. The remaining 10%, a friend shares her access with me. I'm satisfied with the results.
Your example of Bonnie and Clyde doesn't make sense. If Bonnie had a bank account and shared her money with Clyde, that would be more applicable. But then it isn't stealing, either.
They robbed banks. But they split the money. They had an arrangement to compensate for labor. But that does not make it right. No one cares about your 'arrangement' with your friend. Bottom line is you are getting cable access without paying the cable company. PERIOD. Go ahead call up the cable company and see if they allow what you are doing? Oh, you won't. Because you know its illegal.
Of course I know who Bonnie and Clyde are. Your example just isn't applicable. And it seems that you 'do care' about my arrangement. My point here wasn't to argue, my point was that Apple TV is awesome and continues to get better, and it has helped me cut the cord and save about $120 per month, overall.
I'm not hard up for money. I'm just not going to pay $120 per month for the few things I watch.
Anyway, this is my last comment on the subject :-) To each his/her own. My situation works for me and I love that I'll save over $1200 over the next year. Sharing is caring.
While I completely agree that the interface needs an overhaul, I say the more the merrier Apple. For cost reasons, my wife and I have finally cut the cord and will be relying on over the air channels and Apple TV. I can use my parents credentials to log in to the apps that require it and a Netflix sub will cover us for binge watching.
It’s perfectly applicable. You’re breaking the law, as well as the contract your friend signed for service in the first place. If discovered, the account will be terminated and legal action could be taken.
I'm not hard up for money. I'm just not going to pay $120 per month for the few things I watch.
Wow. Then... maybe you don’t get to watch them? Seems like a pretty simple concept to grasp.
Sharing is caring.
Enjoy sharing that prison cell with Bubba B. Bubbington the 3rd.
No problem. I certainly hope you don't use any friends' wifi, do you?
Even though I'm no fan of the cable companies, I have to agree with sog35 here.
Using a friend's WiFi is not the same as sharing an online cable account. Let me clarify the scenario a bit:
When you get a wireless router from your ISP, they give you permission to share your internet connection with any number of devices in the same household. The same goes for your cable TV package: you are allowed to watch cable on any number of TVs/devices in the same household.
The problem is that you are not in the same household as your friend. Thus, by using their cable TV account, you are violating the terms of service for the cable provider (one TV connection per household). What you're doing is akin to tapping into your neighbour's cable line and splitting it into your house (which is illegal).
So many cheapskate thieves. No wonder my cable bill is getting higher every year
I honestly think that the vast majority of people just aren't aware that what they're doing is illegal because it's so easy to do nowadays (and no one bothers to read the terms of service).
Even though I'm no fan of the cable companies, I have to agree with sog35 here.
Using a friend's WiFi is not the same as sharing an online cable account. Let me clarify the scenario a bit:
When you get a wireless router from your ISP, they give you permission to share your internet connection with any number of devices in the same household. The same goes for your cable TV package: you are allowed to watch cable on any number of TVs/devices in the same household.
The problem is that you are not in the same household as your friend. Thus, by using their cable TV account, you are violating the terms of service for the cable provider (one TV connection per household). What you're doing is akin to tapping into your neighbour's cable line and splitting it into your house (which is illegal).
How about this scenario? Most cable companies offer free outdoor wifi. So if you're able to use your friend's wifi at home would it be wrong to also use the outdoor wifi?
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Yay, another couple of channels to hide.
Really. Stealing cable. Really.
Being completely transparent- I use my parent's account's log-in and I recently cut the cord several months ago. I started paying their portion of my Cellphone bill, and in return, I use their log-in credentials. It wasn't that I couldn't afford cable- I mean- with the combo promo that U-Verse had with my internet, it was maybe $35/month to add most channels. But it was more a matter of me not wanting to just have the TV on for no good reason- which I found myself doing. Bored on a saturday? Just flip on HGTV. My viewing is now deliberate- and I bought the latest Mad Men season via iTunes instead of just viewing it with cable like I used to.
I call it "sharing"
Hey you stole my line. I'm suing.
Edit: I see you changed it to 'sharing'. I called off the pitbull lawyers.
Hey you stole my line. I'm suing.
Edit: I see you changed it to 'sharing'. I called off the pitbull lawyers.
I read yours after I wrote it and thought "What would Samsung do?" Then I changed it.
Stealing cable is a crime. Using someone else's credentials is stealing. Sneaking into a movie theater is a crime as well. Now, you can argue that none of these actions actually cost the cable provider any significant $$, but that doesn't make it less illegal.
That being said, I have absolutely ZERO intention of ever purchasing a cable package, so these new channels are completely useless to me. I wish that AppleTV would have a way to purchase subscriptions based on the Apple ID instead of some third party package. Until that happens, there's no chance of me ever getting these channels.
Being completely transparent- I use my parent's account's log-in and I recently cut the cord several months ago. I started paying their portion of my Cellphone bill, and in return, I use their log-in credentials. It wasn't that I couldn't afford cable- I mean- with the combo promo that U-Verse had with my internet, it was maybe $35/month to add most channels. But it was more a matter of me not wanting to just have the TV on for no good reason- which I found myself doing. Bored on a saturday? Just flip on HGTV. My viewing is now deliberate- and I bought the latest Mad Men season via iTunes instead of just viewing it with cable like I used to.
I call it "sharing"
Cutting the cord certainly changes one's viewing habits, you're right.
For myself, I realized some months ago that we were only watching shows that we could catch on prime time channels or Hulu Plus anyway. My kids never watch TV - they'll use Netflix or Hulu Plus. So the decision was easy. It was actually an afterthought about borrowing my friends' login info for a handful of 'channels' i can't get otherwise. And if I can't find a channel (Discovery, looking at you) I buy what I want in iTunes.
It is stealing. It does not matter if you are paying your friend. Its between you and the cable company not you and your friend. Thanks for raising prices for the rest of the honest subscribers.
No problem. I certainly hope you don't use any friends' wifi, do you?
If I'm paying my friend or buying gifts here and there, I could argue that I'm not stealing. But it isn't the point, it works for both of us.
Actually, you're stealing your friends identity.
Actually, you're stealing your friends identity.
How is it stealing her identity if she gives me her password? Some of you folks are silly. It's an arrangement between friends.
all in all, this is the first step in building a 'ala carte' internet delivery system. First work out the delivery and staging bugs. Cable is paying for the content now, and has regional/municipal exclusivity rights for people living in those locales. As those contracts are renegotiated, the need for having a cable contract to view what is currently on cable channels will be reduced, and you'll pay with your AppleID on a per view basis (likely a rental/season pass sort of thing), or at least get access without a cable countract after the 'first view period' is up.
An in the interim, Apple is building up the content and (hopefully) building out these ATV channels to a standard that fits into the 'future' UI that is searchable and personalizable.
Look at the long view people. These are good things happening...
Are you a Canadian Mountie?
So is stealing money from a bank.
It was an arrangement between friends: Bonnie and Clyde.
I can't believe you can't see that thief is involved. Just man up and admit it and move on.
You're welcome to define it any way you choose, I've nothing to admit. I watch 50% of my TV on the local channels/affiliates. The other 40% on Hulu/Netflix. The remaining 10%, a friend shares her access with me. I'm satisfied with the results.
Your example of Bonnie and Clyde doesn't make sense. If Bonnie had a bank account and shared her money with Clyde, that would be more applicable. But then it isn't stealing, either.
You really don't know who Bonnie and Clyde is?
They robbed banks. But they split the money. They had an arrangement to compensate for labor. But that does not make it right. No one cares about your 'arrangement' with your friend. Bottom line is you are getting cable access without paying the cable company. PERIOD. Go ahead call up the cable company and see if they allow what you are doing? Oh, you won't. Because you know its illegal.
Of course I know who Bonnie and Clyde are. Your example just isn't applicable. And it seems that you 'do care' about my arrangement. My point here wasn't to argue, my point was that Apple TV is awesome and continues to get better, and it has helped me cut the cord and save about $120 per month, overall.
I'm not hard up for money. I'm just not going to pay $120 per month for the few things I watch.
Anyway, this is my last comment on the subject :-) To each his/her own. My situation works for me and I love that I'll save over $1200 over the next year. Sharing is caring.
Later, friend.
While I completely agree that the interface needs an overhaul, I say the more the merrier Apple. For cost reasons, my wife and I have finally cut the cord and will be relying on over the air channels and Apple TV. I can use my parents credentials to log in to the apps that require it and a Netflix sub will cover us for binge watching.
It’s perfectly applicable. You’re breaking the law, as well as the contract your friend signed for service in the first place. If discovered, the account will be terminated and legal action could be taken.
Wow. Then... maybe you don’t get to watch them? Seems like a pretty simple concept to grasp.
Enjoy sharing that prison cell with Bubba B. Bubbington the 3rd.
No problem. I certainly hope you don't use any friends' wifi, do you?
Even though I'm no fan of the cable companies, I have to agree with sog35 here.
Using a friend's WiFi is not the same as sharing an online cable account. Let me clarify the scenario a bit:
When you get a wireless router from your ISP, they give you permission to share your internet connection with any number of devices in the same household. The same goes for your cable TV package: you are allowed to watch cable on any number of TVs/devices in the same household.
The problem is that you are not in the same household as your friend. Thus, by using their cable TV account, you are violating the terms of service for the cable provider (one TV connection per household). What you're doing is akin to tapping into your neighbour's cable line and splitting it into your house (which is illegal).
So many cheapskate thieves. No wonder my cable bill is getting higher every year
I honestly think that the vast majority of people just aren't aware that what they're doing is illegal because it's so easy to do nowadays (and no one bothers to read the terms of service).
How about this scenario? Most cable companies offer free outdoor wifi. So if you're able to use your friend's wifi at home would it be wrong to also use the outdoor wifi?