You haven't actually read thru any one of the three links I gave you? I'm pretty sure you never actually tried a Chromebook for even a few minutes either. What are you basing your opinion on?
Probably personal bias. ;-)
From what I've read, and from what I know of my wife's issues with iPads at her school, the ease-of-management and cloud storage of data and accounts is a huge reason to choose Chromebooks over iPads. My wife loves her iPad as do I (iPad 3 and also a Nexus 7). But if I had to manage a few hundred for a school, it certainly wouldn't be my first choice. Yes, iPads have a huge array of educational apps available but they're not nearly as important as the ability to collaborate with other students, work on school work, browse the web (even now, there are websites that simply work better on a laptop) and exchange homework and information with the teachers. iPads are great for lending out in the learning commons room when kids want to explore with learning apps, but for day-to-day classroom assignments, the apps available for Chromebooks are more than enough.
This cannot be an efficient. Reading the notes of a 1 hour lesson takes 10 minutes, listening the recording takes an hour. In order to fully master the content of the lesson for the exams, you need to read/listen 2 or 3 times, so the audo recording is not really practical.
Anf taking notes is a lot easier on a device with an integrated keyboard and a 13" screen.
I'm sorry but you're just wrong, and as a person that's currently a student with an iPad, laptop and desktop, I can tell you that recording a lecture is way more efficient than scrambling to even type notes while remember what was said that you're currently writing, while also trying to listen to what's still being said. There's a big difference between doing something efficiently and doing something quickly. Reviewing a few notes that have been typed CAN be done more quickly, but efficiency is understanding the concepts, not just the facts. Understanding the concept is more easily done by listening then re-listening to something in full as opposed to memorizing only the few broken notes that you were able to type. I'm a fast type, but I'd much rather only have to pay attention to the lecture and give it my full attention while not having to type. I can then also go and listen to it a second time while dissecting it and writing about it. Don't confuse efficiency with doing something quickly, because efficiency doesn't ONLY encompass time.
Everyone who thinks you can't create on an iPad needs to look at the Apple adverts. Education is not just about typing up reports and spreadsheets. What about using GarageBand for music lessons, can you bring up a piano keyboard on a chromebook? The same with creating videos for drama, or using the camera to record videos of sports and analyse sporting techniques etc. The schools need to think outside the box and realise how creative you can be on an iPad.
Netbooks did everything badly. Chromebooks do one thing well. Google Apps just wasn't "there" five years ago either.
But for teachers and school districts coming from a PC background, Chromebooks and Google Apps are most of what they need.
1) distribute reading material (PDF, HTML, HTML5 reader of book formats)
2) distribute assignments
3) retrieve written assignments
4) take canned tests
5) communicate grades back to students (and parents).
That's about it. There is some really cool stuff out there, but for 80% of the classrooms, that's about it.
There is one thing an chrome book is a lot better than an iPad... reading page from book, and answering the assignment in a text entry mode (Assignment: Answer the questions on page 42, email your answers to me by noon tomorrow).
For Apple... the 'book' has to be in their authoring format. For Google, it can be anything displayed by chrome, as you can open up a 2nd window and easily navigate between the two.
I'm studying for a certification, and I've got 4 windows up all the time (text, test, notes, and appleinsider;-)
Everyone who thinks you can't create on an iPad needs to look at the Apple adverts. Education is not just about typing up reports and spreadsheets. What about using GarageBand for music lessons, can you bring up a piano keyboard on a chromebook? The same with creating videos for drama, or using the camera to record videos of sports and analyse sporting techniques etc. The schools need to think outside the box and realise how creative you can be on an iPad.
Those are some good points. There is no exact equivalent of GarageBand but there are a number of web based audio editing applications. You can record video with a Chromebook. Kind of clunky though. You have to have an Internet connection. You go to YouTube and choose upload > record.
Bottom line is neither iPad or Chromebook is a complete solution for education or for anything else either. They both have their pules and minuses. I would guess most people who have an iPad also own a computer. I've never actually seen or used a Chromebook. I do have the entire collection of Apple products.
I'm sorry but you're just wrong, and as a person that's currently a student with an iPad, laptop and desktop, I can tell you that recording a lecture is way more efficient than scrambling to even type notes while remember what was said that you're currently writing, while also trying to listen to what's still being said. There's a big difference between doing something efficiently and doing something quickly. Reviewing a few notes that have been typed CAN be done more quickly, but efficiency is understanding the concepts, not just the facts. Understanding the concept is more easily done by listening then re-listening to something in full as opposed to memorizing only the few broken notes that you were able to type. I'm a fast type, but I'd much rather only have to pay attention to the lecture and give it my full attention while not having to type. I can then also go and listen to it a second time while dissecting it and writing about it. Don't confuse efficiency with doing something quickly, because efficiency doesn't ONLY encompass time.
When you're taking notes, you only write down the key concepts. That makes it much more easier to review than listening to the entire lecture again. You're not typing out the lecture verbatim. I'd guess you simply don't have good note taking skills.
I would always side with having a keyboard. We have a tablet at home, it's collecting dust. Anything I would need a tablet for I use my iPhone instead. If I need to do more heavy duty work (or very fast typing) then I'm on my laptop. I understand why some schools have chosen the laptop option, and Chromebooks are cheap.
When you're taking notes, you only write down the key concepts. That makes it much more easier to review than listening to the entire lecture again. You're not typing out the lecture verbatim. I'd guess you simply don't have good note taking skills.
In your attempt to take a personal shot at me you only made yourself sound stupid. If you are ONLY typing key points, which are few and far between and little in the amount that you have to type, then why do you need a "typing machine?" The point of this story is about needing a keyboard supposedly for typing a lot. If your point is that you only type very little, then you've only proven my point in that an iPad is not only more than enough to do that little bit of typing, but also provides a much more robust learning device because of the apps at your disposal. This has nothing to do with how well I CAN type or write notes, it's my choice to record the entire lesson and re-listen to it glean as much as I can from what's being taught.....I don't see how that could be a negative thing and somehow mean I lack the ability to type notes. Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
I think the issue is not keyboard. The schools are computer idiots. And every body is being misled. The real issue is lack of mouse. You need a mouse to do text editing. Select an insertion point. Select a range of text.
I have a solution to this lack of mouse problem. You actually need to provide a mouse for the iPad. Then you need an app which will provide a cursor on the screen....
In your attempt to take a personal shot at me you only made yourself sound stupid. If you are ONLY typing key points, which are few and far between and little in the amount that you have to type, then why do you need a "typing machine?" The point of this story is about needing a keyboard supposedly for typing a lot. If your point is that you only type very little, then you've only proven my point in that an iPad is not only more than enough to do that little bit of typing, but also provides a much more robust learning device because of the apps at your disposal. This has nothing to do with how well I CAN type or write notes, it's my choice to record the entire lesson and re-listen to it glean as much as I can from what's being taught.....I don't see how that could be a negative thing and somehow mean I lack the ability to type notes. Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
Please point out where I said a "typing machine" was needed. You said someone was "just wrong" when they said taking notes was more efficient than recording and re-listening to a lecture. My post was nothing about how much typing was needed, only that I disagree with your notion that re-listening to lectures is a more efficient way to learn material than taking notes.
Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
Wow, they're reaching this conclusion now?!?! iPad is great but for work purposes it in now way substitutes a standard laptop.
So many ignorant responses being posted to this article! First, the iPad is a much better replacement for textbooks. Next, it is a much better device for at least K-8th grades. You DO NOT NEED a keyboard. We have these marvelous inventions called pencil and paper that actually force the student to learn how to write while at the same time they remove the the unnecessary technology layer for the creative process of learning and creating. This is quite simply a case of KISS - keep it simple stupid. (I'm referring to K-8 here.)
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You haven't actually read thru any one of the three links I gave you? I'm pretty sure you never actually tried a Chromebook for even a few minutes either. What are you basing your opinion on?
Probably personal bias. ;-)
From what I've read, and from what I know of my wife's issues with iPads at her school, the ease-of-management and cloud storage of data and accounts is a huge reason to choose Chromebooks over iPads. My wife loves her iPad as do I (iPad 3 and also a Nexus 7). But if I had to manage a few hundred for a school, it certainly wouldn't be my first choice. Yes, iPads have a huge array of educational apps available but they're not nearly as important as the ability to collaborate with other students, work on school work, browse the web (even now, there are websites that simply work better on a laptop) and exchange homework and information with the teachers. iPads are great for lending out in the learning commons room when kids want to explore with learning apps, but for day-to-day classroom assignments, the apps available for Chromebooks are more than enough.
I'm sorry but you're just wrong, and as a person that's currently a student with an iPad, laptop and desktop, I can tell you that recording a lecture is way more efficient than scrambling to even type notes while remember what was said that you're currently writing, while also trying to listen to what's still being said. There's a big difference between doing something efficiently and doing something quickly. Reviewing a few notes that have been typed CAN be done more quickly, but efficiency is understanding the concepts, not just the facts. Understanding the concept is more easily done by listening then re-listening to something in full as opposed to memorizing only the few broken notes that you were able to type. I'm a fast type, but I'd much rather only have to pay attention to the lecture and give it my full attention while not having to type. I can then also go and listen to it a second time while dissecting it and writing about it. Don't confuse efficiency with doing something quickly, because efficiency doesn't ONLY encompass time.
Netbooks did everything badly. Chromebooks do one thing well. Google Apps just wasn't "there" five years ago either.
But for teachers and school districts coming from a PC background, Chromebooks and Google Apps are most of what they need.
1) distribute reading material (PDF, HTML, HTML5 reader of book formats)
2) distribute assignments
3) retrieve written assignments
4) take canned tests
5) communicate grades back to students (and parents).
That's about it. There is some really cool stuff out there, but for 80% of the classrooms, that's about it.
There is one thing an chrome book is a lot better than an iPad... reading page from book, and answering the assignment in a text entry mode (Assignment: Answer the questions on page 42, email your answers to me by noon tomorrow).
For Apple... the 'book' has to be in their authoring format. For Google, it can be anything displayed by chrome, as you can open up a 2nd window and easily navigate between the two.
I'm studying for a certification, and I've got 4 windows up all the time (text, test, notes, and appleinsider;-)
Fair enough. Google doesn't build Chromebooks tho. That's left up to companies like Lenovo, Toshiba, Samsung and others.
Wow. Talk about anecdote over-generalized. And over-analyzed.
Have you yourself tried a Chromebook?
What devices do you use and own?
The iOS is for fun. The Mac is for work and fun. Full stop.
Everyone who thinks you can't create on an iPad needs to look at the Apple adverts. Education is not just about typing up reports and spreadsheets. What about using GarageBand for music lessons, can you bring up a piano keyboard on a chromebook? The same with creating videos for drama, or using the camera to record videos of sports and analyse sporting techniques etc. The schools need to think outside the box and realise how creative you can be on an iPad.
Those are some good points. There is no exact equivalent of GarageBand but there are a number of web based audio editing applications. You can record video with a Chromebook. Kind of clunky though. You have to have an Internet connection. You go to YouTube and choose upload > record.
Bottom line is neither iPad or Chromebook is a complete solution for education or for anything else either. They both have their pules and minuses. I would guess most people who have an iPad also own a computer. I've never actually seen or used a Chromebook. I do have the entire collection of Apple products.
I'm sorry but you're just wrong, and as a person that's currently a student with an iPad, laptop and desktop, I can tell you that recording a lecture is way more efficient than scrambling to even type notes while remember what was said that you're currently writing, while also trying to listen to what's still being said. There's a big difference between doing something efficiently and doing something quickly. Reviewing a few notes that have been typed CAN be done more quickly, but efficiency is understanding the concepts, not just the facts. Understanding the concept is more easily done by listening then re-listening to something in full as opposed to memorizing only the few broken notes that you were able to type. I'm a fast type, but I'd much rather only have to pay attention to the lecture and give it my full attention while not having to type. I can then also go and listen to it a second time while dissecting it and writing about it. Don't confuse efficiency with doing something quickly, because efficiency doesn't ONLY encompass time.
When you're taking notes, you only write down the key concepts. That makes it much more easier to review than listening to the entire lecture again. You're not typing out the lecture verbatim. I'd guess you simply don't have good note taking skills.
I'm pretty sure you never actually tried a Chromebook for even a few minutes either.
Have you yourself tried a Chromebook?
What devices do you use and own?
I believe he has mentioned that Chromebook is his main Internet access device.
In your attempt to take a personal shot at me you only made yourself sound stupid. If you are ONLY typing key points, which are few and far between and little in the amount that you have to type, then why do you need a "typing machine?" The point of this story is about needing a keyboard supposedly for typing a lot. If your point is that you only type very little, then you've only proven my point in that an iPad is not only more than enough to do that little bit of typing, but also provides a much more robust learning device because of the apps at your disposal. This has nothing to do with how well I CAN type or write notes, it's my choice to record the entire lesson and re-listen to it glean as much as I can from what's being taught.....I don't see how that could be a negative thing and somehow mean I lack the ability to type notes. Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
Please let him answer the question.
I would like to know what devices he uses personally.
I have a solution to this lack of mouse problem. You actually need to provide a mouse for the iPad. Then you need an app which will provide a cursor on the screen....
Re-rebuttal: So what did you use to type your comment?
In your attempt to take a personal shot at me you only made yourself sound stupid. If you are ONLY typing key points, which are few and far between and little in the amount that you have to type, then why do you need a "typing machine?" The point of this story is about needing a keyboard supposedly for typing a lot. If your point is that you only type very little, then you've only proven my point in that an iPad is not only more than enough to do that little bit of typing, but also provides a much more robust learning device because of the apps at your disposal. This has nothing to do with how well I CAN type or write notes, it's my choice to record the entire lesson and re-listen to it glean as much as I can from what's being taught.....I don't see how that could be a negative thing and somehow mean I lack the ability to type notes. Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
Please point out where I said a "typing machine" was needed. You said someone was "just wrong" when they said taking notes was more efficient than recording and re-listening to a lecture. My post was nothing about how much typing was needed, only that I disagree with your notion that re-listening to lectures is a more efficient way to learn material than taking notes.
Would love to know how that's the conclusion you've drawn...
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This concludes example three of the worksheet on contextual paragraph construction. Please reorder the sentences such that they make sense in context.
I edited it just a little.
So many ignorant responses being posted to this article! First, the iPad is a much better replacement for textbooks. Next, it is a much better device for at least K-8th grades. You DO NOT NEED a keyboard. We have these marvelous inventions called pencil and paper that actually force the student to learn how to write while at the same time they remove the the unnecessary technology layer for the creative process of learning and creating. This is quite simply a case of KISS - keep it simple stupid. (I'm referring to K-8 here.)