RBC sees Apple selling upwards of 75M 'iPhone 6' units before end of 2014

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  • Reply 21 of 52
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Add to that list: All newly added innovations will be dismissed as copies of some halfassed implementation on some totally unrelated device which existed at some point in history and had nothing to do with anything anywhere.


     

    You mean the old “My xyz device has had that feature for years. Come on, Apple, stop copying and start innovating” memo? 

  • Reply 22 of 52
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by applelovergrl View Post

    So I am dating someone very important who works for Apple. I have always known apple product release dates before they come out. The iphone 6 will be released September 11th NOT on the 9th!

     

    It’s not a Friday, so no, it won’t be. We’re not talking about the release date, anyway. We’re talking about announcement date. Thanks for reliving the past with your brother’s cousin’s uncle’s niece’s roommate story, though! I miss those.

  • Reply 23 of 52
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Its just very hard to keep hardware secret because Apple needs to produce tens of millions of them in China months before release


    So in other words, Apple is making your 'so obvious a dead man can see it' 5.5" iPhone in the US because there have been no leaks from China.

  • Reply 24 of 52
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
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    Originally Posted by applelovergrl View Post

     

    So I am dating someone very important who works for Apple. I have always known apple product release dates before they come out. The iphone 6 will be released September 11th NOT on the 9th!


     

    <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 25 of 52
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    So I am dating someone very important who works for Apple.


    Is he married?

  • Reply 26 of 52
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

    meaning manufactering could start in late August without leaks.




    What on Earth makes you think that?

  • Reply 27 of 52
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
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    What on Earth makes you think that?


     

    Shush.  His magic 8 ball said so.

  • Reply 28 of 52
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post

     

    So in other words, Apple is making your 'so obvious a dead man can see it' 5.5" iPhone in the US because there have been no leaks from China.


     

    There have been plenty of leaked photos, you just keep saying they don't count for some reason.

     

    Maybe they don't end up releasing a 5.5" at all in the end, or it comes out later instead of with the 4.7" or it turns out to be an iPod instead of a phone. But it's pretty clear that if nothing else, Apple at the very least investigated the possibility of making one and mocked up some prototypes. There's no reason to think they wouldn't - the Note series has proved pretty popular to the tune of tens of millions of units sold. There's obviously a market for that device, so even if Apple ultimately decides not to go after it or to instead try to sway them to a 4.7, logically they would have at least put some research into that area.

  • Reply 29 of 52
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
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    iPad

     

    Last year iPadMini came out after iPadAir

     

    I could see a simular staggered release for iPhone6 and iPhone6 Big Ass


     

    No, I think he meant "how can they start manufacturing in August, release in Oct, without leaks?"  I ask the same question.  We've seen enough leaks of the 4.7" to build the iPhone at this point.  Not so much on the 5.5.

  • Reply 30 of 52
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by applelovergrl View Post

     

    So I am dating someone very important who works for Apple. I have always known apple product release dates before they come out. The iphone 6 will be released September 11th NOT on the 9th!


     

    <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />


    Hmmm.... lovergrl, meet bf....

     

    (Sorry, couldn't resist! ;))

  • Reply 31 of 52
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member
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    Hmmm.... lovergrl, meet bf....

     

    (Sorry, couldn't resist! ;))


     

    Well played.  

     

    Unfortunately, I'm dating someone in upper management at Apple as well. :D

  • Reply 32 of 52
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    Hmmm.... lovergrl, meet bf....

     

    (Sorry, couldn't resist! ;))


     

    Well played.  

     

    Unfortunately, I'm dating someone in upper management at Apple as well. :D


    Long distance relationship, eh? Sucks.

  • Reply 33 of 52
    Ehrmmm... why would this analyst only have a 110 dollar target price, if he expects iPhone sales to grow 37% YoY ?!
  • Reply 34 of 52
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    .....brother’s cousin’s uncle’s niece's......

    Or you could just say 'sister' ;)
  • Reply 35 of 52
    froodfrood Posts: 771member
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    You're kidding, right? So guesses out weigh facts and actual data?

     

    Lol no, I'm not kidding at all... it is actually how the stock market works =p

     

    If you were to base it on facts and actual data, by definition you could only evaluate the past and the current moment.  People don't invest for the current or the past.  They invest with the hopes that in the future they will receive a good return on their investment.  They are speculating that the company of their (or their financial advisor's) choice will do well.

     

    Analysts may not be great at predicting the actual future, but they are very good (or know people that are very good) at math.

     

    So if they predict a company will sell 75 million n's at y margin, they can do a NPV calculation, move it forward, and tell you their target based on that assumption is, say $110.

     

    If the company were to *actually* sell 72 million n's at y margin, their prediction was wrong and the company should be worth somewhat less than $110.  Even if selling 72 million is stellar and an earth shaking record, hopefully even you agree that that is less than selling 75 million of the things would be.   If they were wrong and the company actually sells 100 million units, would you agree that its price should go up if its valuation were based on it selling only 75 million?

  • Reply 36 of 52
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
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    For those of you just tuning in to AI for the first time and don’t know he’s joking, remember that in 2011, the whole world knew Apple was releasing the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 simultaneously.


    What I remember from 2012 (oops) is that somebody on here (you, perhaps?) was quite insistent that there was no way - NO WAY! - that the new iPhone would be called the iPhone 5.

     

    Thompson

  • Reply 37 of 52
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Now Daryanani says it's possible that Apple could sell 10 million "iPhone 6" units on the device's launch weekend...

     

    Times are a changing. The original iPhone sold 10 million units in its first YEAR.

  • Reply 38 of 52
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    Originally Posted by applelovergrl View Post

     

    So I am dating someone very important who works for Apple. I have always known apple product release dates before they come out. The iphone 6 will be released September 11th NOT on the 9th!


     

    That would seem unlikely to me, in view of 2001.

  • Reply 39 of 52
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post





    You're kidding, right? So guesses out weigh facts and actual data?

     

    Lol no, I'm not kidding at all... it is actually how the stock market works =p

     

    If you were to base it on facts and actual data, by definition you could only evaluate the past and the current moment.  People don't invest for the current or the past.  They invest with the hopes that in the future they will receive a good return on their investment.  They are speculating that the company of their (or their financial advisor's choice) will do well.

     

    Analysts may not be great at predicting the actual future, but they are very good (or know people that are very good) at math.

     

    So if they predict a company will sell 75 million n's at y margin, they can do a NPV calculation, move it forward, and tell you their target based on that assumption is, say $110.

     

    If the company were to *actually* sell 72 million n's at y margin, their prediction was wrong and the company should be worth somewhat less than $110.  Even if selling 72 million is stellar and an earth shaking record, hopefully even you agree that that is less than selling 75 million of the things would be.   If they were wrong and the company actually sells 100 million units, would you agree that its price should go up if its valuation were based on it selling only 75 million?


     

    Remind me not to call you up when I need a logical problem solving.

  • Reply 40 of 52
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

    That would seem unlikely to me, in view of 2001.




    Been 13 years. It doesn’t matter.

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