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So if they predict a company will sell 75 million n's at y margin, they can do a NPV calculation, move it forward, and tell you their target based on that assumption is, say $110.
If the company were to *actually* sell 72 million n's at y margin, their prediction was wrong and the company should be worth somewhat less than $110. Even if selling 72 million is stellar and an earth shaking record, hopefully even you agree that that is less than selling 75 million of the things would be. If they were wrong and the company actually sells 100 million units, would you agree that its price should go up if its valuation were based on it selling only 75 million?
It is either based on extensive market surveys and research, or they just pull it out of their butts. Either way it gets 'corrected' in the future by *actual* sales figures.
If they estimated only 20 million would sell, they would probably value Apple more around $60.
If they estimated 75 million would sell, they Apple around $110.
Investors and institutions may or may not buy what the analysts are projecting, and the only thing that truly drives share price are whether people are buying or selling it.
Now fast forward to the future. The future is now the present and we now have the 'facts' instead of speculation. Apple posts record sales of 72 million units.
Based on that Apples actual value might be around $105.
So in the first case, the analysts were wrong. Investors are ecstatic. Their shares soar from $60 to $105.
In the second case, the analysts were wrong. Investors are miffed. Despite posting 'record sales' their shares drop from $110 to $105.
In any of the cases, Apple fans are complaining
In the first, analysts are *clearly* idiots for not valuing Apple at over a trillion dollars and Apple proved them wrong yet again!
In the second case, analysts are *clearly* idiots for driving expectations higher than Apple could meet, so it is their fault the stock dropped and is clearly market manipulation.
People don't invest for the current or the past. They invest with the hopes that in the future they will receive a good return on their investment. They are speculating that the company of their (or their financial advisor's) choice will do well.
People are speculating that the shares of the company of their choice will do well. An often overlooked difference...
It is either based on extensive market surveys and research, or they just pull it out of their butts. Either way it gets 'corrected' in the future by *actual* sales figures.
Apple has never sold more than 60 MM iPhones in a qtr, let alone 75 MM. So his ass numbers is a pump and dump scheme.
you're fcking funny. You tell me to self ban based on some rumor shits from China? Come back and talk about this on Sep 9 IF 5.5" even comes out by Nov 18th (3 months from your post date on Aug 18).
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That would seem unlikely to me, in view of 2001.
Been 13 years. It doesn’t matter.
I think you might underestimate the media's capacity for creating bad news.
And where did they get the 75 MM from?
The "iPhone 6L" variation will have a metal housing and be available in the 5S color options available today.
The "iPad Micro" variation will have a plastic housing available in the 5S color schemes.
Inexplicably, the iPad Micro variation will cost $50 more.
You heard it here first.
I'm 100% certain you gonna lose this bet (I mean an iPhone the size of an S3 ain't gonna happen)
Sorry
Remind me not to call you up when I need a logical problem solving.
Ok. But just for reference it is not problem solving. It is basic math.
And where did they get the 75 MM from?
It is either based on extensive market surveys and research, or they just pull it out of their butts. Either way it gets 'corrected' in the future by *actual* sales figures.
If they estimated only 20 million would sell, they would probably value Apple more around $60.
If they estimated 75 million would sell, they Apple around $110.
Investors and institutions may or may not buy what the analysts are projecting, and the only thing that truly drives share price are whether people are buying or selling it.
Now fast forward to the future. The future is now the present and we now have the 'facts' instead of speculation. Apple posts record sales of 72 million units.
Based on that Apples actual value might be around $105.
So in the first case, the analysts were wrong. Investors are ecstatic. Their shares soar from $60 to $105.
In the second case, the analysts were wrong. Investors are miffed. Despite posting 'record sales' their shares drop from $110 to $105.
In any of the cases, Apple fans are complaining
In the first, analysts are *clearly* idiots for not valuing Apple at over a trillion dollars and Apple proved them wrong yet again!
In the second case, analysts are *clearly* idiots for driving expectations higher than Apple could meet, so it is their fault the stock dropped and is clearly market manipulation.
Ehrmmm... why would this analyst only have a 110 dollar target price, if he expects iPhone sales to grow 37% YoY ?!
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because they will raise their target to 120 once we hit 109.
These analysis are IDIOTS.
These are the same clowns that had 75 price targets less than a year ago.
hmmm.... so $75 * 137% = @ $103.
Ah. Future expectations are already built into the price.
People don't invest for the current or the past. They invest with the hopes that in the future they will receive a good return on their investment. They are speculating that the company of their (or their financial advisor's) choice will do well.
People are speculating that the shares of the company of their choice will do well. An often overlooked difference...
Apple has never sold more than 60 MM iPhones in a qtr, let alone 75 MM. So his ass numbers is a pump and dump scheme.
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Time to pay up holmes.
You can either start you SELF-BAN now or wait till Sept 9th
The 5.5 is coming
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/181918/first-photos-of-purported-5-5-inch-iphone-6-rear-shell-compare-part-to-4-7-inch-model
you're fcking funny. You tell me to self ban based on some rumor shits from China? Come back and talk about this on Sep 9 IF 5.5" even comes out by Nov 18th (3 months from your post date on Aug 18).