I do not see how Apple could hit all their targets without an IGZO screen, including the thinner body and larger battery. Mark my words, IGZO or this will be a big miss in the battery life department.
Additionally, we haven't had any screen leaks at all, given we don't know the resolution.
Also, notice I said a 35% bump in screen time. The savings of an IGZO will easily offset the bump in screen area and likely most of the resolution increase (processing).
Calling 14 hours or better on LTE, I wouldn't be surprised to see 15
I still haven't seen a good forward-looking write-up on screen technologies. Does no one have a vantage point on the industry? (Raymond Soneira of Display Mate is way too disorganized in his thinking, so it's hard to decipher what he's trying to say.)
Anyway, I seem to remember reading that IGZO was more appropriate for tablet-sized screens and larger, and that LTPS was the technology of choice for smaller screens. And it seems I read that both technologies offer about the same energy efficiencies. I'm a big fan of the whole IGZO concept, though, so I hope these generalizations were oversimplified, being as how i'll be in the market for the 5.5" maxiPhone/microtablet.
It would be very nice if Apple were to release two versions of the iP6, identical in every way except for thickness and battery--one would be 3mm thicker and have twice the battery life. Give consumers the option, and see what they REALLY value--thinness or battery. Personally, I'd rather hug trees than walls.
I still haven't seen a good forward-looking write-up on screen technologies. Does no one have a vantage point on the industry? (Raymond Soneira of Display Mate is way too disorganized in his thinking, so it's hard to decipher what he's trying to say.)
Anyway, I seem to remember reading that IGZO was more appropriate for tablet-sized screens and larger, and that LTPS was the technology of choice for smaller screens. And it seems I read that both technologies offer about the same energy efficiencies. I'm a big fan of the whole IGZO concept, though, so I hope these generalizations were oversimplified, being as how i'll be in the market for the 5.5" maxiPhone/microtablet.
I actually have not heard of LTPS but if it is as efficient, then it could possibly be that screen.
I also haven't heard that it works better for tablets, what is the reasoning behind that? Just curious.
It may have been because early on, yield rates were poor? My understanding is that Sharp got the kinks ironed out.
This is the clearest and most detailed video for the iPhone 6 I've come across yet! What happened to doubling down on secrecy... I wonder what Apple has to say about the physical design being all over the internet.
If these leaks are legitimate, Apple needs to find the source of these leaks from the factory where these parts are manufactured, and penalize the factory for allowing them.
If these leaks are legitimate, Apple needs to find the source of these leaks from the factory where these parts are manufactured, and penalize the factory for allowing them.
Not gonna happen. I've been calling for harsher measures for years now, and security is actually getting worse, with more and more leaks happening.
I am even in favor of workers being strip searched when entering and leaving the premises.
That’s funny. I seem to remember the iPhone 6 not being released at all. Not even announced. Mind showing me the product page on Apple.com?
I'm not taking any sides in this, as I probably wont even be getting any iPhone this year, but I do think that come Sept 9, we will find that the iPhone 5.5 is real, and then you will have to acknowledge that it is indeed for real.
I do not see how Apple could hit all their targets without an IGZO screen, including the thinner body and larger battery. Mark my words, IGZO or this will be a big miss in the battery life department.
Additionally, we haven't had any screen leaks at all, given we don't know the resolution.
Also, notice I said a 35% bump in screen time. The savings of an IGZO will easily offset the bump in screen area and likely most of the resolution increase (processing).
Calling 14 hours or better on LTE, I wouldn't be surprised to see 15
There have been screen leaks. One of them that is reported to be true shows approximate resolution possibilities. But iOS 8 shows possible resolutions as well. So we do have a pretty good idea of what we might get.
Well, it would be nice if you were correct. But without some real reason to think otherwise, I wouldn't count on more than 10%, and I hope we get that.
This is the clearest and most detailed video for the iPhone 6 I've come across yet! What happened to doubling down on secrecy... I wonder what Apple has to say about the physical design being all over the internet.
Apple can't prevent the extremely rare smuggled part. They don't own the factories.
But, did you hear anything at all about Swift before Apple announced it at the developer's conference? No one else did either, and Apple had been working on it for almost three years.
compared to what? What other normal sized phone (under 5 inches) has a battery that out performs the 5S?
Go on Anand, and check out battery life charts from any recent phone. Anand has a fairly large number of phones on those charts for comparison purposes. The iPhone 5S is right about in the middle.
It doesn't even matter what size phone you look at. The truth is that it doesn't matter. A top line phone is a top line phone, no matter what the size. But as an example. The Galaxy S4 has a poor battery life, below that of the 5S, while the S5 has a battery life above that of the 5S. If Samsung can improve battery lif by about 100% from one generation to the other, Apple can too. It's just a matter of wanting to.
I often think that Apple works towards a goal, and when they reach that goal, they stop. So if they feel that battery life is good enough, they won't increase it unless the competition eats into their sales, and Apple can point to that feature's lack of upgrading as the reason.
We've seen that with a lot of things over the years. For example, Siri. Apple comes out with that, and it's great, for a first try. Then it's in beta for a full two years. They announce that it's coming out of beta, and we expect a major upgrade, but nope! Not much of a difference. A few more databases, a better sounding voice, but the software is about the same. Meanwhile both Google and Microsoft move up and equal, and even, in some areas, surpass it. Why? Because Apple thinks it's good enough.
This battery size, and the smaller one for the 4.7" model, seems to be just enough to maintain the 8 hour LTE talk time. While that's enough most of the time, there are times when I've wished I've had an extra two hours.
There was a time when iPhones had the best battery life of all normal smartphones. I mean that without including one or two models that have been heavy and bulky because of enormous batteries.
But now, iPhones are atuck right about in the middle of the field, lagging even behind mid range phones. I really don't see why that has to be. With batteries being so thin, even one thin mm thicker could add 25% more life between charges. I strongly believe that most people would trade that 25,4th of an inch thickness for an additional 25% battery life.
Truthfully, phones are thin enough.
I agree they are thin enough. I put a Mophie Space Pack on my 5S and after about a day it feels too small and fragile to use without it. I think a middle ground with a phone about the thickness (or slightly less) of the old 4/4s and wider screen would be a perfect form factor.
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I guess i won my bet.
VINDICATION.
hello? paging tallest ski....paging tallest ski.
Since you have a hard time comprehending anything- let me express to you what a "bet" is and isn't.
A bet is two parties agreeing to terms
A bet is not one person saying "bet me, bet me" like a child- and the other person never betting.
would be nearly double that of the 1,560 mAh battery found in the current flagship iPhone 5s.
So as long as the 5.5's power needs are not also double that of iPhone 5s, we should see a nice bump in battery life.
I still haven't seen a good forward-looking write-up on screen technologies. Does no one have a vantage point on the industry? (Raymond Soneira of Display Mate is way too disorganized in his thinking, so it's hard to decipher what he's trying to say.)
Anyway, I seem to remember reading that IGZO was more appropriate for tablet-sized screens and larger, and that LTPS was the technology of choice for smaller screens. And it seems I read that both technologies offer about the same energy efficiencies. I'm a big fan of the whole IGZO concept, though, so I hope these generalizations were oversimplified, being as how i'll be in the market for the 5.5" maxiPhone/microtablet.
It would be very nice if Apple were to release two versions of the iP6, identical in every way except for thickness and battery--one would be 3mm thicker and have twice the battery life. Give consumers the option, and see what they REALLY value--thinness or battery. Personally, I'd rather hug trees than walls.
I still haven't seen a good forward-looking write-up on screen technologies. Does no one have a vantage point on the industry? (Raymond Soneira of Display Mate is way too disorganized in his thinking, so it's hard to decipher what he's trying to say.)
Anyway, I seem to remember reading that IGZO was more appropriate for tablet-sized screens and larger, and that LTPS was the technology of choice for smaller screens. And it seems I read that both technologies offer about the same energy efficiencies. I'm a big fan of the whole IGZO concept, though, so I hope these generalizations were oversimplified, being as how i'll be in the market for the 5.5" maxiPhone/microtablet.
I actually have not heard of LTPS but if it is as efficient, then it could possibly be that screen.
I also haven't heard that it works better for tablets, what is the reasoning behind that? Just curious.
It may have been because early on, yield rates were poor? My understanding is that Sharp got the kinks ironed out.
This is the clearest and most detailed video for the iPhone 6 I've come across yet! What happened to doubling down on secrecy... I wonder what Apple has to say about the physical design being all over the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=657UeODW178
If these leaks are legitimate, Apple needs to find the source of these leaks from the factory where these parts are manufactured, and penalize the factory for allowing them.
The iPhone 5.5 is going to be a beast.
Okay, where is our sense of scale? How do we know where this thing goes?
Except useless as a phone, so I doubt it.
That’s 100% a fake.
That’s funny. I seem to remember the iPhone 6 not being released at all. Not even announced. Mind showing me the product page on Apple.com?
If these leaks are legitimate, Apple needs to find the source of these leaks from the factory where these parts are manufactured, and penalize the factory for allowing them.
Not gonna happen. I've been calling for harsher measures for years now, and security is actually getting worse, with more and more leaks happening.
I am even in favor of workers being strip searched when entering and leaving the premises.
That’s funny. I seem to remember the iPhone 6 not being released at all. Not even announced. Mind showing me the product page on Apple.com?
I'm not taking any sides in this, as I probably wont even be getting any iPhone this year, but I do think that come Sept 9, we will find that the iPhone 5.5 is real, and then you will have to acknowledge that it is indeed for real.
There have been screen leaks. One of them that is reported to be true shows approximate resolution possibilities. But iOS 8 shows possible resolutions as well. So we do have a pretty good idea of what we might get.
Well, it would be nice if you were correct. But without some real reason to think otherwise, I wouldn't count on more than 10%, and I hope we get that.
Apple can't prevent the extremely rare smuggled part. They don't own the factories.
But, did you hear anything at all about Swift before Apple announced it at the developer's conference? No one else did either, and Apple had been working on it for almost three years.
Same here, unfortunately. Lost potential in an iPod touch.
Accepted or not Tallest Ski lost.
Can’t lose what you don’t attempt.
That wasn’t my reasoning.
So leave, please.
Go on Anand, and check out battery life charts from any recent phone. Anand has a fairly large number of phones on those charts for comparison purposes. The iPhone 5S is right about in the middle.
It doesn't even matter what size phone you look at. The truth is that it doesn't matter. A top line phone is a top line phone, no matter what the size. But as an example. The Galaxy S4 has a poor battery life, below that of the 5S, while the S5 has a battery life above that of the 5S. If Samsung can improve battery lif by about 100% from one generation to the other, Apple can too. It's just a matter of wanting to.
I often think that Apple works towards a goal, and when they reach that goal, they stop. So if they feel that battery life is good enough, they won't increase it unless the competition eats into their sales, and Apple can point to that feature's lack of upgrading as the reason.
We've seen that with a lot of things over the years. For example, Siri. Apple comes out with that, and it's great, for a first try. Then it's in beta for a full two years. They announce that it's coming out of beta, and we expect a major upgrade, but nope! Not much of a difference. A few more databases, a better sounding voice, but the software is about the same. Meanwhile both Google and Microsoft move up and equal, and even, in some areas, surpass it. Why? Because Apple thinks it's good enough.
So now you are saying Phablets are a legit market?
This battery size, and the smaller one for the 4.7" model, seems to be just enough to maintain the 8 hour LTE talk time. While that's enough most of the time, there are times when I've wished I've had an extra two hours.
There was a time when iPhones had the best battery life of all normal smartphones. I mean that without including one or two models that have been heavy and bulky because of enormous batteries.
But now, iPhones are atuck right about in the middle of the field, lagging even behind mid range phones. I really don't see why that has to be. With batteries being so thin, even one thin mm thicker could add 25% more life between charges. I strongly believe that most people would trade that 25,4th of an inch thickness for an additional 25% battery life.
Truthfully, phones are thin enough.
I agree they are thin enough. I put a Mophie Space Pack on my 5S and after about a day it feels too small and fragile to use without it. I think a middle ground with a phone about the thickness (or slightly less) of the old 4/4s and wider screen would be a perfect form factor.
I'd like my 5S to be thinner. I don't use a case.
Would you like it to also have 20% less battery life?
Why don't you read a newer review. And there are numerous aspects to battery life.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review/3
WTF.
iPhone 5S was #1 for 4G LTE Web Browsing. Average my Ass.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9
'Was' - you got that bit right.