Apple Watch starts at $349 and launches in early 2015

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  • Reply 81 of 108
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    Why are people saying it requires a data plan? Just trolls trolling or does it have its own GSM/CDMA cellular chips? I would be surprised if it did.

    It says "Requires iPhone 5 or later." 

     

    I don't have an iPhone, and would like the watch, and so this means it has to "come with a data plan" for those of us without phones.

     

    Unless that's just in reference to something specific?

  • Reply 82 of 108
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    Originally Posted by joelsalt View Post

     

    It says "Requires iPhone 5 or later." 

     

    I don't have an iPhone, and would like the watch, and so this means it has to "come with a data plan" for those of us without phones.

     

    Unless that's just in reference to something specific?


     

    Apple Watch will require an iPhone to get all of the functionality. Also it does not work with Android. The data plan is for the iPhone.

  • Reply 83 of 108
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    That’s what Apple said.

    Are you sure? I'm seeing functionality that doesn't require an iPhone be tethered to it.
    Doesn’t matter. An iPhone implies a data plan.

    In their iWatch videos they state that an iPhone will allow it to grab GPS and WiFi data. I didn't hear them mention Cellular or a data plan once.
  • Reply 84 of 108
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    Originally Posted by RalphMouth View Post

     

    Did they say if I can monitor the heart rate of someone else wearing the watch , like my elderly grandfather for example,  from my iPhone?



     

    Yes and no. He can send you his heartbeat, but you can't manipulate it from your iPhone. Apple were probably concerned about people's hearts inadvertently leaping into their mouths.

  • Reply 85 of 108
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    Originally Posted by knowitall View Post



    Ok, I was wrong.




    Time to add a prefix to your handle then maybe? image

     

    knowitsomeofthetime

     

    There you are. :)

  • Reply 86 of 108
    ingsocingsoc Posts: 212member
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    Originally Posted by waybacmac View Post

     

    OK, I'm disappointed. It's square, a very elegant square admittedly, but a square. A chubby square. A chubby square with measles. What kind of interface is measles? And a knob. OK, you say it's a dial. A knob, really? 


     

    Haha...although I disagree I like your description. ;-)

     

    I actually love the "measles"! It looks great. I love that you scroll across it and the cluster moves around. It just seems natural, and especially so for a tiny screen. I can't imagine a grid or a list view on a watch face - yuck.

     

    As for the dial (I think it's clearly a dial)... what I love about this is that it calls on very traditional, elegantly-machined watches while adding an ultra-modern, high-tech twist. I think that's kind of ironically cool. It's fun. :-)

  • Reply 87 of 108
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy View Post

    the price is almost double that of the new iPhone! 

     

    Yeah, no it isn’t.


     

    Which? Yes or no?

  • Reply 88 of 108
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    Are you saying it won't work at all without an iPhone and it won't work at all with an iPhone that only gets connected via WiFi?

    No idea on what functionality is unavailable without an iPhone - e.g., whether an app would still run in a reduced mode.  Anything that requires GPS positioning and connectivity to the net will be at a minimum "hobbled".

  • Reply 89 of 108
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

    Are you sure? I'm seeing functionality that doesn't require an iPhone be tethered to it.

     

    That could very well be, but we’ll have to see.

     

    In their iWatch videos they state that an iPhone will allow it to grab GPS and WiFi data. I didn't hear them mention Cellular or a data plan once.


     

    Right, but, ownership of an activated iPhone requires a data plan because it’s an iPhone. Since the ?Watch requires an iPhone for use, the transitive property of equality says it requires a data plan.

  • Reply 90 of 108
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

     
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post



    That’s what Apple said.




    Are you sure? I'm seeing functionality that doesn't require an iPhone be tethered to it.
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    Doesn’t matter. An iPhone implies a data plan.




    In their iWatch videos they state that an iPhone will allow it to grab GPS and WiFi data. I didn't hear them mention Cellular or a data plan once.

     

    TS is right. Apple explicitly said you need an iPhone to use the Watch. My picture wasn't frozen for that bit.

  • Reply 91 of 108
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    That could very well be, but we’ll have to see.

    I guarantee you that you don't need an iPhone to be tethered to it via BT for the pedometer, clock and other apps to function. it's not like it shuts off if they get disconnected.
    Right, but, ownership of an activated iPhone requires a data plan because it’s an iPhone. Since the ?Watch requires an iPhone for use, the transitive property of equality says it requires a data plan.

    1) But the data plan is already associated with the iPhone so saying it needs a data plan is disingenuous. As previously stated you can run the iWatch without every getting data to it from a cellular network via an iPhone.

    2) You don't have to have a data plan with an unlocked iPhone.

    3) Don't use have an iPhone without a data plan?
  • Reply 92 of 108
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

    1) But the data plan is already associated with the iPhone so saying it needs a data plan is disingenuous. As previously stated you can run the iWatch without every getting data to it from a cellular network via an iPhone.

     

    Implying it needs its own is disingenuous. I see what you’re saying now.

     

    2) You don't have to have a data plan with an unlocked iPhone.


     

    Oh, right. Wait, what? Oh, I guess if you don’t use one of the Big Four.

     

    3) Don't use have an iPhone without a data plan?


     

    Well, without a plan plan, too; somewhat out of the loop here. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 93 of 108
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    Originally Posted by dblanch369 View Post

     

    Disappointed in the price point.  I was expecting $99-$149 so this would be a mainstream device.  Just like the mistake in over-pricing the original iPhone, IMHO.

     


    Yes, because that was such a flop for Apple.

  • Reply 94 of 108
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

     

    TS is right. Apple explicitly said you need an iPhone to use the Watch. My picture wasn't frozen for that bit.


    lol

  • Reply 95 of 108
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    Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy View Post

     

     

    I bought the iPhone 5 nearly 2 years ago. When I go to buy the iPhone 6 on 9/19 I will pay $199. If I were to buy an Apple Watch next year I will pay $350. 

     

    Math is hard. 




    Obviously Math is hard because your cell phone bill would be $25 less per month (on a data share plan) if you bought the phone at full retail.

    You are paying $199 plus $25 a month for the phone. So nope. Not twice the price. 

    Just incase the math is too hard I will break it down for you. 

    $217 for the phone with tax (give or take a buck) $25 a month for 24 months is $600 

    So: $217 + $600 is ?  anyone? anyone? 

    $817 

  • Reply 96 of 108
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    1) But the data plan is already associated with the iPhone so saying it needs a data plan is disingenuous. As previously stated you can run the iWatch without every getting data to it from a cellular network via an iPhone.



    2) You don't have to have a data plan with an unlocked iPhone.



    3) Don't use have an iPhone without a data plan?

    1. depends where you live. Here in France, you can buy any iPhone without even having to choose a carrier (so let alone any plan). That’s why so many people came from all over Europe when the iPhone 4 was introduced so long ago.

     

    3. I have an iPhone 4 and no data plan. I don’t feel particularly hillbilly or crippled. 

     

    BTW, iPhone 6 (unsubsidized) € 709. iPhone 6+ € 809. That's the 16 MB versions. Add an incremental € 100 for each bump in flash capacity. Considering that the Eurozone economy is more or less flatlining, I call that either mockery or folly.

  • Reply 97 of 108
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,652member
    rcomeau wrote: »
    Yes, because that was such a flop for Apple.

    It was actually.
  • Reply 98 of 108
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,652member
    eauvive wrote: »
    1. depends where you live. Here in France, you can buy any iPhone without even having to choose a carrier (so let alone any plan). That’s why so many people came from all over Europe when the iPhone 4 was introduced so long ago.

    3. I have an iPhone 4 and no data plan. I don’t feel particularly hillbilly or crippled. 

    BTW, iPhone 6 (unsubsidized) € 709. iPhone 6+ € 809. That's the 16 MB versions. Add an incremental € 100 for each bump in flash capacity. Considering that the Eurozone economy is more or less flatlining, I call that either mockery or folly.

    That's about the same as last year. iPhones are designed to be subsidised.
  • Reply 99 of 108
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    That's about the same as last year. iPhones are designed to be subsidised.



    I can’t remember how much I’d paid for my iPhone 4 but it wasn’t that expensive. Maybe € 450 to 500. But that was four years ago.

    “designed” to be subsidized. I'd say “priced” to be subsidized ;)

  • Reply 100 of 108
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

    It was actually.

     

    Under what definition? When the iPhone was only available unsubsidized, so many people paid MORE for the big model that Apple discontinued the 4 GB iPhone the fastest of any product they have ever sold. 

     

    Makes me really happy to have one, in fact.

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