Apple announces official iCloud price tiers ranging from free to $20 per month

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  • Reply 41 of 66
    ^ post

    1. That's true. Gotta hev the time for these sort of things though, but monkeing around with software is fun.

    2. So you're getting a new one?

    3. You're up early; eager to read up on last nights' posts?
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  • Reply 42 of 66
    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

    2. So you're getting a new one?

     

    4.7” 6, yep. Hopefully there will BE Day 2 stock, but whatever.

     

    3. You're up early; eager to read up on last nights' posts? 


     

    My sleep schedule is destroyed these days. I just go until I collapse wherever and wake up when I wake up. I’m sure we’ll see more when the rest of the Eastern Seaboard wakes up.

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  • Reply 43 of 66
    You’re right; all songs in iTunes should be free. It’s too much bother. :rolleyes:

    Why do you hate yourself?
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  • Reply 44 of 66
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

    Honest question, what the hell do you do on your device that 1TB of iCloud storage is too "small"? I'm genuinely curious. 


    iPhoto collection (with only a few videos) is 500GB alone

    iTunes library is well over 500GB (Apple lossless rips).

     

    Besides, why would I entrust personal data to Apple, when they hold the encryption keys?

     

    For much of the data I wish to replicate, I use BitTorrent Sync. BTSync isn't a recommended solution for iPhoto or iTunes, and I don't use it for that, but for other important files, it works great.

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  • Reply 45 of 66
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    No deal. 1TB is too small.


     

    Try and cut down on your porn.

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  • Reply 46 of 66
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    No deal. 1TB is too small.


     

    Try and cut down on your porn.

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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

     

    No deal. 1TB is too small.


     

    Honest question, what the hell do you do on your device that 1TB of iCloud storage is too "small"? I'm genuinely curious. 


     

    I think he gets a lot of one-handed use out of it.

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  • Reply 47 of 66
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post



    You're obviously not the user to whom they're pitching this service.



    I'll bet 99.9% are cool with it.

    Well, 99% of people who don't care that Apple holds the encryption keys might be cool with it.

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  • Reply 48 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Inkling View Post



    Is it really worth the bother of collecting $0.99. Apple should offer that to anyone who's bought an Apple product recently and be done with the penny pinching.

     

    Yes. If they really don't want the money, they can give it to me.

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  • Reply 49 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Inkling View Post

     

    Make all the tunes in iTunes free? Now why didn't I think of that!

     

    Sigh, it wouldn't work. Apple owns those iCloud servers and can charge or not charge as it so chooses. All those musicians won't be happy not getting their 70% royalties. Neither would I about my books in the iBookstore. I'd end up living in a dumpster. Not good. Dumpsters smell. I would smell. I'd have no friends. My life would be miserable.

     

    But Apple makes enough money selling gadgets to cover the cost of that next tier of server space. That's why, you might note, I made the freeness dependent on buying an Apple device recently. My seven-year-old MacBook would get me nothing. My latest model Mac mini would get me free service. It'd encourage upgrades and make Apple money. 

     

    You can think of that free server space like those free OS X and iOS upgrades. That's one of my favorite aspects of owning Apple stuff.

     

    --Michael W. Perry, Inkling Books


     

    Lol. I don't think you're a businessman. 

     

    Apple makes enough money that it could give tons of storage away for free. That's not the point. Look after the pennies, and the pounds will look after themselves.

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  • Reply 50 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

    Honest question, what the hell do you do on your device that 1TB of iCloud storage is too "small"? I'm genuinely curious. 


    iPhoto collection (with only a few videos) is 500GB alone

    iTunes library is well over 500GB (Apple lossless rips).

     

    Besides, why would I entrust personal data to Apple, when they hold the encryption keys?

     

    For much of the data I wish to replicate, I use BitTorrent Sync. BTSync isn't a recommended solution for iPhoto or iTunes, and I don't use it for that, but for other important files, it works great.


     

    If you had iTunes Match, you wouldn't need to back up 500GB of iTunes stuff.

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  • Reply 51 of 66
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    You're mad. If you had iTunes Match, you wouldn't need to back up 500GB of iTunes stuff.


     

    I do have iTunes Match and, unlike you it seems, I know it doesn't backup lossless copies of audio files. My iTunes library also contains several videos, which iTunes Match does nothing with. The total is well over 500GB.

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  • Reply 52 of 66
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    Try and cut down on your porn.

     

    I think he gets a lot of one-handed use out of it.


    Zero porn. One-handed exercise is for brainless, friendless Apple fanatics such as yourself.

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  • Reply 53 of 66
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    You're mad. If you had iTunes Match, you wouldn't need to back up 500GB of iTunes stuff.


    You're a fool. I do have iTunes Match and, unlike you it seems, I know it doesn't backup lossless copies of audio files. My iTunes library also contains several videos, which iTunes Match does nothing with. The total is well over 500GB.


     

    It still backs up those Apple Lossless files as 256 AAC, which is fine. As to the video, just buy stuff from iTunes, and there's no need to back anything up, as it's all waiting to be streamed or downloaded at will.

     

    So really, you're having a hissy fit over nothing.

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  • Reply 54 of 66
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    It still backs up those Apple Lossless files as 256 AAC, which is fine. As to the video, just buy stuff from iTunes, and there's no need to back anything up, as it's all waiting to be streamed or downloaded at will.

     

    So really, you're having a hissy fit over nothing.


    256K of lossless isn't a backup. iTunes Match doesn't deal with video. Maybe you need to read that again.

     

    You do nothing for Apple sales, btw.

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  • Reply 55 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    It still backs up those Apple Lossless files as 256 AAC, which is fine. As to the video, just buy stuff from iTunes, and there's no need to back anything up, as it's all waiting to be streamed or downloaded at will.

     

    So really, you're having a hissy fit over nothing.


    256K of lossless isn't a backup. iTunes Match doesn't deal with video. Maybe you need to read that again.

     

    You do nothing for Apple sales, btw.


     

    There's little difference between Lossless and 256 AAC at Apple's spec. In the very unlikely event that you lost your Lossless files, you would have a backup of them all as AAC. If you buy video from iTunes, you don't need iTunes Match for it because iTunes does that job for free.

     

    Read more carefully.

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  • Reply 56 of 66
    4.7” 6, yep. Hopefully there will BE Day 2 stock, but whatever.

    My sleep schedule is destroyed these days. I just go until I collapse wherever and wake up when I wake up. I’m sure we’ll see more when the rest of the Eastern Seaboard wakes up.

    Good for you sir! Enjoy it....and don't let the size frustrate you.

    Lol @ Eastern Seaboard.
    cpsro wrote: »
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    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Try and cut down on your porn.</span>


    I think he gets a lot of one-handed use out of it.
    Zero porn. One-handed exercise is for brainless, friendless Apple fanatics such as yourself.

    You gotta admit Ben, that was quite funny.

    Also, 1.23TB here at my end. Includes many iPhone shot video as well, dumped in iTunes so it syncs across iOS devices and is available on Home Sharing.
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  • Reply 57 of 66
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

    There's little difference between Lossless and 256 AAC at Apple's spec.


     

    That's a subjective assessment, so you or I can't make that call for someone else. I think Apple's 25K AAC files are remarkably good, but well-trained ears using a high-quality playback chain will be able to detect the subtle differences between them and a lossless version. It isn't any different than storing lossless versions of photos instead of high quality JPEGs.

     

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    If you buy video from iTunes, you don't need iTunes Match for it because iTunes does that job for free.


     

    For exactly that reason I would prefer to buy more of my movies from iTunes, BUT...

     

    As long as the studios continue to make life inconvenient for legitimate buyers in a futile attempt to thwart pirates with DRM, I'll continue buying discs and ripping them. It infuriates me when I take my hard drive full of movies with me to my grandson's house and certain titles won't play because "This machine is not authorized." Fine, then I'll just buy an antiquated shiny disc, because it will play ANYWHERE. Assholes.

     

    Then there's pricing. Amazon is almost always less expensive than iTunes. I don't know who is making the decisions that result in physical media from one source being cheaper than downloading from another, but whatever. I pay less and wind up with both a DRM-free file and a Blu-Ray.

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  • Reply 58 of 66
    There's little difference between Lossless and 256 AAC at Apple's spec.

    That's a subjective assessment, so you or I can't make that call for someone else. I think Apple's 25K AAC files are remarkably good, but well-trained ears using a high-quality playback chain will be able to detect the subtle differences between them and a lossless version. It isn't any different than storing lossless versions of photos instead of high quality JPEGs.
    If you buy video from iTunes, you don't need iTunes Match for it because iTunes does that job for free.

    For exactly that reason I would prefer to buy more of my movies from iTunes, BUT...

    As long as the studios continue to make life inconvenient for legitimate buyers in a futile attempt to thwart pirates with DRM, I'll continue buying discs and ripping them. It infuriates me when I take my hard drive full of movies with me to my grandson's house and certain titles won't play because "This machine is not authorized." Fine, then I'll just buy an antiquated shiny disc, because it will play ANYWHERE. Assholes.

    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Then there's pricing. Amazon is almost always less expensive than iTunes</span>
    <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:1.4em;">. I don't know who is making the decisions that result in physical media from one source being cheaper than downloading from another, but whatever. I pay less and wind up with both a DRM-free file and a Blu-Ray.</span>

    I agree with you on pricing. It should be lower on iTunes.

    You can authorise your grandson's computer; then you can watch your iTunes stuff. You could de-authorise it afterwards if you're concerned about security.
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  • Reply 59 of 66
    I'll continue buying discs and ripping them

    Careful now; we don't want to wake IndyFX up...
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  • Reply 60 of 66
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    You can authorise your grandson's computer; then you can watch your iTunes stuff. You could de-authorise it afterwards if you're concerned about security.


     

     

    Three computers in our house plus one at work have used up four of my available five authorizations. I have to remember to "Deauthorize" every time I finish watching on any other computer or I won't be able to authorize anywhere else.

     

    Obviously not insurmountable and definitely a "First-World Problem" but a pain-in-the-ass nonetheless, exacerbated by being such a pointless exercise. Anyone who wants to pirate a movie can, VERY easily. I bought an app online for $39 that strips the DRM off iTunes movies. I don't use it because it loses the 5.1 portion of the audio, but I can't imagine that being a show-stopper for someone wanting to distribute the movie to others. If they'd even bother with that. More likely they'd just rip from a disc like I do.

     

    So what exactly is the benefit of the DRM in the first place? Nada. What is the sole, ACTUAL outcome? Inconvenience for those who PAID FOR THE PRODUCT! Stupid business model. I try not to support businesses that do stupid things to me.

     

    EDIT: The irony of me buying a disc means paying the same people who bone me through iTunes is not lost on me.

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