Finally a calm and considered write-up of the watch part of the event.
Several points of Apple-ish elegance and inventiveness reveal how hard they thought about and worked out the concept of "computer watch" or whatever you want to call this new category.
1. The UI as a freeform galaxy of apps, with time in the center, grouped by "neighborhoods" of apps.
2. The precise breakdown of input into crown wheel scrolling, selection by pushing on two different switches as well as by touch and tapping, zooming by crown wheel.
3. The "disappearing thickness" when it's worn on the wrist. I take it that the sensor/charging disc is burying itself into the hollow upper part of the wrist.
4. The slick way the watch bands slide and lock into mounting grooves in the watch body. Don't know if that's unique to Apple, but it's a Ive-like solution that makes a huge difference in desirability and wearability.
5. The watchbands themselves, with the different magnetic closing methods. These seem also very Ive-ish in his jewelry-making mode. Apple has been developing magnetic link and closures for a few years now, and here we see them doing more embedding in new ways.
6. The bonding of the display directly on the sapphire (and the glass?). Screen bonding has been a particular design effort of Apple's for a few years now. I think they may be the innovators in this area, basically getting the image closer to the eyes for aesthetic reasons and to save on thickness.
There are probably more breakthroughs like these that make the watch by Apple stand apart from the others, but this is already an impressive list. Payments and Siri will turn out to be the main drivers of "need" for the watch. They would say the fitness angle, but I'm not one to speculate on that.
That means it will not work with 21% of the current iPhone user base.
Notice that it isn’t being sold right now. So it doesn’t matter what the current user base is. By the time ?Watch goes to market, the iPhone 6 will have picked up an appreciable amount of that.
Originally Posted by morgajx
Its ugly and fat. Cant stand square watches at the best of times. Nothing to see here, move along....
lol no.
However, my spare HTC One M8 is better looking and has had a lot of the stuff Apple announced yesterday for months.
Also completely wrong.
Originally Posted by EauVive
Is there a version where the hands move counterclockwise?
Finally a calm and considered write-up of the watch part of the event.
Several points of Apple-ish elegance and inventiveness reveal how hard they thought about and worked out the concept of "computer watch" or whatever you want to call this new category.
1. The UI as a freeform galaxy of apps, with time in the center, grouped by "neighborhoods" of apps.
2. The precise breakdown of input into crown wheel scrolling, selection by pushing on two different switches as well as by touch and tapping, zooming by crown wheel.
3. The "disappearing thickness" when it's worn on the wrist. I take it that the sensor/charging disc is burying itself into the hollow upper part of the wrist.
4. The slick way the watch bands slide and lock into mounting grooves in the watch body. Don't know if that's unique to Apple, but it's a Ive-like solution that makes a huge difference in desirability and wearability.
5. The watchbands themselves, with the different magnetic closing methods. These seem also very Ive-ish in his jewelry-making mode. Apple has been developing magnetic link and closures for a few years now, and here we see them doing more embedding in new ways.
6. The bonding of the display directly on the sapphire (and the glass?). Screen bonding has been a particular design effort of Apple's for a few years now. I think they may be the innovators in this area, basically getting the image closer to the eyes for aesthetic reasons and to save on thickness.
There are probably more breakthroughs like these that make the watch by Apple stand apart from the others, but this is already an impressive list. Payments and Siri will turn out to be the main drivers of "need" for the watch. They would say the fitness angle, but I'm not one to speculate on that.
I agree with every thing you wrote here. It's a shame that just because the display is square people immediately call it ugly.
"watch band diversity", "no...specifically assigned gender roles", "price-insensitive" What PC garbage! This is as bad as another article I read where the Apple Watch was "blessed" and "adorned" as if it was a holy relic. I like Apple's technology, but the weakling, drones that come out of the woodwork for these events are nauseating. When I see an Apple product I don't think politics and religion for crying out loud!
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
Metric time would be, well – unsettling. But why not? Our system is based on Babylonian divisions imagined more than 4,000 years ago. It could be somewhat refreshed…
And it's funny how a few people are complaining about the thickness. These are probably the same people who complain that Apple needs to stop making their phones thinner. Get your stories straight, you hypocrites!
There is no hypocrisy involved because you don't wear an iPhone on your wrist. The iPhone 6 is 6.9mm thick and it goes in your pocket - the ?watch is 11mm thick and goes on your wrist. In terms of thickness, it's worse than if you were wearing an iPhone.
I am wondering how the security and payment thing works as the watch doesn't have a touch ID sensor. Can you make a payment via the watch without first using the touch ID sensor on the paired phone?
How does the NFC payment work if it's paired to an iPhone 5? I would guess a PIN, or could you not use it for payments with an iPhone 5 at all?
It seems to be the best smart-watch anyone has come up with to-date. That said, I don't need a smart watch in my life and only very occasionally use a watch. It is too thick and chunky for my taste.
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
Metric time would be, well – unsettling. But why not? Our system is based on Babylonian divisions imagined more than 4,000 years ago. It could be somewhat refreshed…
We absolutely should go back to 13 months. The Babylonian twelve months is a crime against nature for which we're still paying, actually more with each passing "moonth" that we ignore the harmony of the solar system that we are immersed in. The proverbial "year and a day" is 13 X 28 days = 364 days, plus one day off to get over the New Year's hangover.
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
See, the problem with this is that it’ll just be a regular clock with a different face. Frigging CafePress doesn’t mention that.
I know there were physical metric clocks built after the French Revolution, but to buy an original would likely require parting with a couple of organs.
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
Metric time would be, well – unsettling. But why not? Our system is based on Babylonian divisions imagined more than 4,000 years ago. It could be somewhat refreshed…
You french already had a crack at decimal time immediately following the revolution. Doesn't seem like a bad idea at all.
It is genius really. Before, Apple only sold an iPhone. Now, people will buy an iPhone, an iWatch and probably several different straps. Plus Apple get's their share from ApplePay. Brilliant!
Can you post links to where you found that Apple are getting "their share from Apple-Pay" please. I was under the impression that Tim made it clear Apple were not getting any share. I thought the point was Apple-Pay would sell more Apple hardware but by staying out of the process, which I took to mean 'not taking a share' Apple made the system far more seamless that other attempts to enter this market.
Can you post links to where you found that Apple are getting "their share from Apple-Pay" please.
From the keynote and Apple’s website, that Apple “doesn’t know what you bought, where you bought it, or how much you paid for it” tells me they get nothing from this.
"watch band diversity", "no...specifically assigned gender roles", "price-insensitive" What PC garbage! This is as bad as another article I read where the Apple Watch was "blessed" and "adorned" as if it was a holy relic. I like Apple's technology, but the weakling, drones that come out of the woodwork for these events are nauseating. When I see an Apple product I don't think politics and religion for crying out loud!
I don't disagree with you on the overly cult like feeling of 'blessed' and 'adorned' but I think you are over reacting on the others. The first three phrases you quote happen to contain words you associate with PC (politically correct as opposed to personal computer ... ) but are not used in that way here. The word diverse has been around long before current PC use and means, well .... diverse. The use of the word gender is very relevant in this case, would you prefer it read, 'Apple didn't differentiate between ladies and gentlemen's versions'? As to price insensitive, this is a marketing term not a PC one.
From the keynote and Apple’s website, that Apple “doesn’t know what you bought, where you bought it, or how much you paid for it” tells me they get nothing from this.
Me too, I was trying no be polite and give the chap a chance to explain or back down graciously.
I see over at the Verge that Apple Watch is getting ripped to shreds. One criticism I find highly amusing is that the watch does too much. This is coming from the same people that routinely criticize iOS and iPhone because they can't do all the things Android does (at least not before iOS 8). Yes I think Apple needs to sharpen its watch message and perhaps focus on 4 or 5 things the watch does really well. But we all know if Apple announced a wearable device that only did a couple things or was just fitness focused these same people would be complaining that it was a niche device, that it costs too much for what it can do, that Android Wear has more features blah blah blah. Personally I think it's an exciting new platform and I can't wait to see what developers do with it.
Me too, I was trying no be polite and give the chap a chance to explain or back down graciously.
Though then again... perhaps Apple doesn’t get a percentage, but rather a fixed amount for each transaction. They then wouldn’t need to know how much anything costs or what was purchased, just that a purchase was made.
I'm so happy you didn't like what you saw. I'd hate to lose your trolling
I kept contemplating whether to respond to @pazuzu or not. I was wondering whether it is worth trolling a troll or not. I decided it wasn't worth my time.
Now, if I already had the Apple Watch, I'm sure I would have decided my time was precious sooner!
But you did respond.
Ant I'm not a troll- just not into this ugly watch. I love how if anyone is not into this updated Casio facsimile you're labeled a troll.
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There is a left handed version.
Is there a version where the hands move counterclockwise? That would be a real doozy.
Several points of Apple-ish elegance and inventiveness reveal how hard they thought about and worked out the concept of "computer watch" or whatever you want to call this new category.
1. The UI as a freeform galaxy of apps, with time in the center, grouped by "neighborhoods" of apps.
2. The precise breakdown of input into crown wheel scrolling, selection by pushing on two different switches as well as by touch and tapping, zooming by crown wheel.
3. The "disappearing thickness" when it's worn on the wrist. I take it that the sensor/charging disc is burying itself into the hollow upper part of the wrist.
4. The slick way the watch bands slide and lock into mounting grooves in the watch body. Don't know if that's unique to Apple, but it's a Ive-like solution that makes a huge difference in desirability and wearability.
5. The watchbands themselves, with the different magnetic closing methods. These seem also very Ive-ish in his jewelry-making mode. Apple has been developing magnetic link and closures for a few years now, and here we see them doing more embedding in new ways.
6. The bonding of the display directly on the sapphire (and the glass?). Screen bonding has been a particular design effort of Apple's for a few years now. I think they may be the innovators in this area, basically getting the image closer to the eyes for aesthetic reasons and to save on thickness.
There are probably more breakthroughs like these that make the watch by Apple stand apart from the others, but this is already an impressive list. Payments and Siri will turn out to be the main drivers of "need" for the watch. They would say the fitness angle, but I'm not one to speculate on that.
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Notice that it isn’t being sold right now. So it doesn’t matter what the current user base is. By the time ?Watch goes to market, the iPhone 6 will have picked up an appreciable amount of that.
lol no.
Also completely wrong.
Is there a version with a metric clock?
"watch band diversity", "no...specifically assigned gender roles", "price-insensitive" What PC garbage! This is as bad as another article I read where the Apple Watch was "blessed" and "adorned" as if it was a holy relic. I like Apple's technology, but the weakling, drones that come out of the woodwork for these events are nauseating. When I see an Apple product I don't think politics and religion for crying out loud!
Is there a version with a metric clock?
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
Metric time would be, well – unsettling. But why not? Our system is based on Babylonian divisions imagined more than 4,000 years ago. It could be somewhat refreshed…
And it's funny how a few people are complaining about the thickness. These are probably the same people who complain that Apple needs to stop making their phones thinner. Get your stories straight, you hypocrites!
There is no hypocrisy involved because you don't wear an iPhone on your wrist. The iPhone 6 is 6.9mm thick and it goes in your pocket - the ?watch is 11mm thick and goes on your wrist. In terms of thickness, it's worse than if you were wearing an iPhone.
I am wondering how the security and payment thing works as the watch doesn't have a touch ID sensor. Can you make a payment via the watch without first using the touch ID sensor on the paired phone?
How does the NFC payment work if it's paired to an iPhone 5? I would guess a PIN, or could you not use it for payments with an iPhone 5 at all?
It seems to be the best smart-watch anyone has come up with to-date. That said, I don't need a smart watch in my life and only very occasionally use a watch. It is too thick and chunky for my taste.
I am sure the ?watch 6 will be a marvel.
We absolutely should go back to 13 months. The Babylonian twelve months is a crime against nature for which we're still paying, actually more with each passing "moonth" that we ignore the harmony of the solar system that we are immersed in. The proverbial "year and a day" is 13 X 28 days = 364 days, plus one day off to get over the New Year's hangover.
He's just being thick, as usual.
I think it already is, but I'm sure evolution will make it thinner. Not too thin, otherwise it will become difficult to rotate the crown.
See, the problem with this is that it’ll just be a regular clock with a different face. Frigging CafePress doesn’t mention that.
I know there were physical metric clocks built after the French Revolution, but to buy an original would likely require parting with a couple of organs.
Or with 13 hours instead of 12 (that was already made for Auguste Comte, I believe, though I'm not sure and Google does not find anything relevant. Modern version http://www.cafepress.fr/+13_hour_skeleton_clock_wall_clock,410859929 — specially dedicated to triskaidekaphobics).
Metric time would be, well – unsettling. But why not? Our system is based on Babylonian divisions imagined more than 4,000 years ago. It could be somewhat refreshed…
You french already had a crack at decimal time immediately following the revolution. Doesn't seem like a bad idea at all.
Can you post links to where you found that Apple are getting "their share from Apple-Pay" please. I was under the impression that Tim made it clear Apple were not getting any share. I thought the point was Apple-Pay would sell more Apple hardware but by staying out of the process, which I took to mean 'not taking a share' Apple made the system far more seamless that other attempts to enter this market.
From the keynote and Apple’s website, that Apple “doesn’t know what you bought, where you bought it, or how much you paid for it” tells me they get nothing from this.
I don't disagree with you on the overly cult like feeling of 'blessed' and 'adorned' but I think you are over reacting on the others. The first three phrases you quote happen to contain words you associate with PC (politically correct as opposed to personal computer ... ) but are not used in that way here. The word diverse has been around long before current PC use and means, well .... diverse. The use of the word gender is very relevant in this case, would you prefer it read, 'Apple didn't differentiate between ladies and gentlemen's versions'? As to price insensitive, this is a marketing term not a PC one.
Me too, I was trying no be polite and give the chap a chance to explain or back down graciously.
Though then again... perhaps Apple doesn’t get a percentage, but rather a fixed amount for each transaction. They then wouldn’t need to know how much anything costs or what was purchased, just that a purchase was made.
I'm so happy you didn't like what you saw. I'd hate to lose your trolling
I kept contemplating whether to respond to @pazuzu or not. I was wondering whether it is worth trolling a troll or not. I decided it wasn't worth my time.
Now, if I already had the Apple Watch, I'm sure I would have decided my time was precious sooner!
But you did respond.
Ant I'm not a troll- just not into this ugly watch. I love how if anyone is not into this updated Casio facsimile you're labeled a troll.