I see Leo Laporte is on the Apple hate bandwagon again. On his radio show he said the Apple Watch would be a dud. I love it when people underestimate Apple (and Tim Cook). It's not like they haven't been through this before. Every new Apple product has been predicted to fail. Some how I have a feeling Apple will be getting the last laugh.
If you watch the video with the woman making a payment using a credit card and then using ApplePay on an iPhone 6 -- it's kind of interesting. The woman had to dig in her purse to get out of her wallet and get the credit card out of the wallet. What they didn't show -- the woman would've had to dig in her purse to get out of the iPhone 6 to pay with ApplePay ... Not quite so convenient.
With the AppleWatch, paying is totally convenient -- no digging or fumbling around ... Just tap your wrist [watch]. and pay ... Ping!
So when Airdrop finally allows you to transfer files between a Mac and iOS devices, Apple will have caught up with a facility that has been available to users of non-iOS devices for ages.
I very briefly had a Sony C905 phone in 2008 that just showed up on a WiFi network and allowed you to transfer files to and from via WiFi. A very handy feature.
Great to see Apple is leading the way as usual. I can't wait until they make the worlds first waterproof phone.
The list is longer than that. Unfortunately the list of forgotten devices, never adopted standards and hair brain features is much longer. You do know that you're still paying for all of that aborted R&D from the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc., right?
A partial answer to your question is Apple arranged an ApplePay solution for restaurants through OpenTable. OpenTable manages the transaction so an NFC terminal doesn't have to be brought to your table, as long as the establishment is registered on OpenTable's network. If they are not, I don't know the answer for you. As for the watch, time will tell.
If you watch the video with the woman making a payment using a credit card and then using ApplePay on an iPhone 6 -- it's kind of interesting. The woman had to dig in her purse to get out of her wallet and get the credit card out of the wallet. What they didn't show -- the woman would've had to dig in her purse to get out of the iPhone 6 to pay with ApplePay ... Not quite so convenient.
With the AppleWatch, paying is totally convenient -- no digging or fumbling around ... Just tap your wrist [watch]. and pay ... Ping!
Here's an exercise for the reader. Right now from where you're sitting, grab your iPhone and turn it on. How long did that take? Probably a couple seconds since we use our phones almost continually. Now time how long it takes to get your favorite credit card in hand. It might be fairly quick, depending where you are, but I suspect for 98% of it, the iPhone was more convenient.
So when Airdrop finally allows you to transfer files between a Mac and iOS devices, Apple will have caught up with a facility that has been available to users of non-iOS devices for ages.
I very briefly had a Sony C905 phone in 2008 that just showed up on a WiFi network and allowed you to transfer files to and from via WiFi. A very handy feature.
Great to see Apple is leading the way as usual. I can't wait until they make the worlds first waterproof phone.
Most of the women I see, including my wife, carry their phone in their pockets (generally the back pocket). When wearing clothes without pockets, it seems like it's more common to carry the phone instead of putting it in a purse.
Here's a big question that came up on another AI thread.
Say, you are at a bar, coffee shop, casino or fine restaurant.
You want to pay your bill using ApplePay.
Does the merchant bring a portable NFC terminal to you? If so, where, when, how much for these NFC Terminals?
Why not give patrons on option? Pay at the table, or pay on your way out? There are many restaurants/diners/cafes in my area where you can take your bill up to the counter and pay there or they will do it for you.
You don't need the expense of buying multiple POST terminals; have a single POST station set up so that as I'm on my way out, I hand the attendant my check and pay there.
The list is longer than that. Unfortunately the list of forgotten devices, never adopted standards and hair brain features is much longer. You do know that you're still paying for all of that aborted R&D from the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc., right?
I really don't know what you are talking about. The phone I mentioned I sold within a few weeks because I found the camera disappointing. I lost about €15 on it. I have been transferring photos, pdf's and music files between my Macs and phones via Bluetooth for the past 6 years. Bluetooth file transfer is commonplace and is still going strong.
Here's a big question that came up on another AI thread.
Say, you are at a bar, coffee shop, casino or fine restaurant.
You want to pay your bill using ApplePay.
Does the merchant bring a portable NFC terminal to you? If so, where, when, how much for these NFC Terminals?
Given that the likely answer is no -- how does the customer/merchant/cc provider take advantage of the security and convenience of ApplePay when they are not within bump range of the NFC POST?
One way would be to use the WiFi on the iPhone to communicate with a nearby NFC POST terminal -- thus extending the bump range from several inches to, say, 50 yards or meters. The data transmitted would be the same, so security would not be compromised -- while convenience would be greatly enanced.
The big question, is: If yur iPhone dies (or whatever), can the AppleWatch complete the transaction using its WiFi. (Assume that the AppleWatch has been pre-enabled for ApplePay using the iPhone TouchID.
In a way, this is all very important -- else, we'll just give the waiter our cc to swipe ... literally!
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
I really don't know what you are talking about. The phone I mentioned I sold within a few weeks because I found the camera disappointing. I lost about €15 on it. I have been transferring photos, pdf's and music files between my Macs and phones via Bluetooth for the past 6 years. Bluetooth file transfer is commonplace and is still going strong.
No one knows what you're talking about. One moment you're criticizing Apple for falling behind and the next moment you're bragging about being able to transfer photos for past 6 years between your Macs and phones. Make up your mind.
Yes they have always lead the way and once they do show how it's done, everyone else clamors to change direction and chase after them while also adding extra trivial features and call it "innovative".
File transfers didn't exist in iOS because the concept of "files" didn't exist. Apps had their own documents. With iOS 8, there will be access to "files" for the first time. This has nothing to do with whether Apple is capable of developing an OS that is able to handle the feature (obviously), but has everything to do with starting with an extremely secure system, then slowly figuring out how to open it more and more without sacrificing that security and privacy. This has been the design philosophy of iOS from the very beginning.
RE: Waterproofing...
If you're a klutz and want your iPhone waterproofed, then get done. There's services that waterproof your device, there are many cases on the market, and even a ziplock bag will do the trick. There isn't any absolute guarantee that any kind of "waterproofing" is going to work. Even Samsung's phones that say they're waterproofed come with a disclaimer about being water damaged.
Great article......I wonder how Apple is doing the Peer-To-Peer with AppleTV? Assuming the same way with Bluetooth and WiFi or I'm wondering if its just WiFi.
This migration has taken place with AirPlay to the Apple TV as well.... A year ago, the only way to discover an Apple TV was Bonjour (over WiFi). Than in March, with iOS 7.1 and Apple TV 6.1, Apple added bluetooth for discovery but still required an TCP/IP path (even one across subnets) to reach and stream to Apple TV.
Now, with iOS 8 for Apple TV, you will be able to discover and stream to an Apple TV with the Bluetooth/Ethernet technology described above...
Very cool and eliminates the hassle of having an Apple TV right next to you but unable to discover or stream to it because it is on a different subnet or you're not allowed to connect to the WiFi.
No one knows what you're talking about. One moment you're criticizing Apple for falling behind and the next moment you're bragging about being able to transfer photos for past 6 years between your Macs and phones. Make up your mind.
Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, quite the reverse.
Hmmm... it looks like continuity won't work with my 4-year-old iMac, and I have no other reason to upgrade it. That's the problem with Macs - they last too long. $%^%ing pieces of $#@&! /sarcasm
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If you watch the video with the woman making a payment using a credit card and then using ApplePay on an iPhone 6 -- it's kind of interesting. The woman had to dig in her purse to get out of her wallet and get the credit card out of the wallet. What they didn't show -- the woman would've had to dig in her purse to get out of the iPhone 6 to pay with ApplePay ... Not quite so convenient.
With the AppleWatch, paying is totally convenient -- no digging or fumbling around ... Just tap your wrist [watch]. and pay ... Ping!
I was hoping Continuity and Hand Off would work on my '09 iMac. Oh well.
Sigh … I have a mid 2011 iMac and it doesn't work on it. I even got a BLE dongle, but that didn't work either.
Ggg
So when Airdrop finally allows you to transfer files between a Mac and iOS devices, Apple will have caught up with a facility that has been available to users of non-iOS devices for ages.
I very briefly had a Sony C905 phone in 2008 that just showed up on a WiFi network and allowed you to transfer files to and from via WiFi. A very handy feature.
Great to see Apple is leading the way as usual. I can't wait until they make the worlds first waterproof phone.
The list is longer than that. Unfortunately the list of forgotten devices, never adopted standards and hair brain features is much longer. You do know that you're still paying for all of that aborted R&D from the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc., right?
A partial answer to your question is Apple arranged an ApplePay solution for restaurants through OpenTable. OpenTable manages the transaction so an NFC terminal doesn't have to be brought to your table, as long as the establishment is registered on OpenTable's network. If they are not, I don't know the answer for you. As for the watch, time will tell.
If you watch the video with the woman making a payment using a credit card and then using ApplePay on an iPhone 6 -- it's kind of interesting. The woman had to dig in her purse to get out of her wallet and get the credit card out of the wallet. What they didn't show -- the woman would've had to dig in her purse to get out of the iPhone 6 to pay with ApplePay ... Not quite so convenient.
With the AppleWatch, paying is totally convenient -- no digging or fumbling around ... Just tap your wrist [watch]. and pay ... Ping!
Here's an exercise for the reader. Right now from where you're sitting, grab your iPhone and turn it on. How long did that take? Probably a couple seconds since we use our phones almost continually. Now time how long it takes to get your favorite credit card in hand. It might be fairly quick, depending where you are, but I suspect for 98% of it, the iPhone was more convenient.
So when Airdrop finally allows you to transfer files between a Mac and iOS devices, Apple will have caught up with a facility that has been available to users of non-iOS devices for ages.
I very briefly had a Sony C905 phone in 2008 that just showed up on a WiFi network and allowed you to transfer files to and from via WiFi. A very handy feature.
Great to see Apple is leading the way as usual. I can't wait until they make the worlds first waterproof phone.
Sounds super secure
Sounds super secure
And why wouldn't it be?
Here's a big question that came up on another AI thread.
Say, you are at a bar, coffee shop, casino or fine restaurant.
You want to pay your bill using ApplePay.
Does the merchant bring a portable NFC terminal to you? If so, where, when, how much for these NFC Terminals?
Why not give patrons on option? Pay at the table, or pay on your way out? There are many restaurants/diners/cafes in my area where you can take your bill up to the counter and pay there or they will do it for you.
You don't need the expense of buying multiple POST terminals; have a single POST station set up so that as I'm on my way out, I hand the attendant my check and pay there.
The list is longer than that. Unfortunately the list of forgotten devices, never adopted standards and hair brain features is much longer. You do know that you're still paying for all of that aborted R&D from the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc., right?
I really don't know what you are talking about. The phone I mentioned I sold within a few weeks because I found the camera disappointing. I lost about €15 on it. I have been transferring photos, pdf's and music files between my Macs and phones via Bluetooth for the past 6 years. Bluetooth file transfer is commonplace and is still going strong.
Here's a big question that came up on another AI thread.
Say, you are at a bar, coffee shop, casino or fine restaurant.
You want to pay your bill using ApplePay.
Does the merchant bring a portable NFC terminal to you? If so, where, when, how much for these NFC Terminals?
Given that the likely answer is no -- how does the customer/merchant/cc provider take advantage of the security and convenience of ApplePay when they are not within bump range of the NFC POST?
One way would be to use the WiFi on the iPhone to communicate with a nearby NFC POST terminal -- thus extending the bump range from several inches to, say, 50 yards or meters. The data transmitted would be the same, so security would not be compromised -- while convenience would be greatly enanced.
The big question, is: If yur iPhone dies (or whatever), can the AppleWatch complete the transaction using its WiFi. (Assume that the AppleWatch has been pre-enabled for ApplePay using the iPhone TouchID.
In a way, this is all very important -- else, we'll just give the waiter our cc to swipe ... literally!
I really don't know what you are talking about. The phone I mentioned I sold within a few weeks because I found the camera disappointing. I lost about €15 on it. I have been transferring photos, pdf's and music files between my Macs and phones via Bluetooth for the past 6 years. Bluetooth file transfer is commonplace and is still going strong.
No one knows what you're talking about. One moment you're criticizing Apple for falling behind and the next moment you're bragging about being able to transfer photos for past 6 years between your Macs and phones. Make up your mind.
Great to see Apple is leading the way as usual.
Yes they have always lead the way and once they do show how it's done, everyone else clamors to change direction and chase after them while also adding extra trivial features and call it "innovative".
File transfers didn't exist in iOS because the concept of "files" didn't exist. Apps had their own documents. With iOS 8, there will be access to "files" for the first time. This has nothing to do with whether Apple is capable of developing an OS that is able to handle the feature (obviously), but has everything to do with starting with an extremely secure system, then slowly figuring out how to open it more and more without sacrificing that security and privacy. This has been the design philosophy of iOS from the very beginning.
RE: Waterproofing...
If you're a klutz and want your iPhone waterproofed, then get done. There's services that waterproof your device, there are many cases on the market, and even a ziplock bag will do the trick. There isn't any absolute guarantee that any kind of "waterproofing" is going to work. Even Samsung's phones that say they're waterproofed come with a disclaimer about being water damaged.
Now, with iOS 8 for Apple TV, you will be able to discover and stream to an Apple TV with the Bluetooth/Ethernet technology described above...
Very cool and eliminates the hassle of having an Apple TV right next to you but unable to discover or stream to it because it is on a different subnet or you're not allowed to connect to the WiFi.
See bottom of page at https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/enterprise/
No one knows what you're talking about. One moment you're criticizing Apple for falling behind and the next moment you're bragging about being able to transfer photos for past 6 years between your Macs and phones. Make up your mind.
Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, quite the reverse.
Here's a big question that came up on another AI thread.
Say, you are at a bar, coffee shop, casino or fine restaurant.
You want to pay your bill using ApplePay.
Does the merchant bring a portable NFC terminal to you? If so, where, when, how much for these NFC Terminals?
Every iPhone or iPad with NFC can be a portable NFC terminal, if it's given the right software.