dude you are trying to hard. You probably though the iPhone's home button was fugly. I haven't heard a single legit tech person say the crown is lame. Most agree its a great way to zoom/scroll without blocking the screen.
You got humilated by Slurpy. Just stop.
Hardly.
Dude- Send me a link to your "legit tech persons". LOL
Personally I never understood the 'step' tracking phenomenon.
its pretty easy to understand -- most americans are too sedentary and fat. studies have shown that, not surprisingly, walking several miles a day helps you be less fat.
we love tracking our steps. having a visualizer for our progress encourages us to "beat" the goal, ala game theory. its worked for myself and my SO, we're thrilled to have the motion co-processor in our iphone 5s
At least that's modern- no Scott Forstall "digital crown" aka scroll wheel.
Yeah, I'll trust Ive's design sense more than that of a troll like you - since he's actually proven himself, you know, a million times over.
I'm always in awe of people like you, who posess so little humility, and have no hesitation in bash something created by people who are known to be the best in their fields, in such a kneejerk fashion. You think during the 3 years of development, Ive and team didn't try 10,000 different prototypes? You think you have more insight into what works and looks better than they do, based on the millions of hrs of testing they've done? The design is not your cup of tea, fine. But I think the abject mockery, coming from people like you and others, is pretty damn sickening- and reveals more about your character than the watch itself. Especially since you don't have one second of hands-on time with the digital crown, nor the watch itself. What fucking qualifies you to dish out such mockery? Your implication is that everyone who designed the watch is a moron. Again, that says alot about you.
Too many words, Slurpy; get over yourself.
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Yeah, I'll trust Ive's design sense more than that of a troll like you - since he's actually proven himself, you know, a million times over.
I'm always in awe of people like you, who posess so little humility, and have no hesitation in bash something created by people who are known to be the best in their fields, in such a kneejerk fashion. You think during the 3 years of development, Ive and team didn't try 10,000 different prototypes? You think you have more insight into what works and looks better than they do, based on the millions of hrs of testing they've done? The design is not your cup of tea, fine. But I think the abject mockery, coming from people like you and others, is pretty damn sickening- and reveals more about your character than the watch itself. Especially since you don't have one second of hands-on time with the digital crown, nor the watch itself. What fucking qualifies you to dish out such mockery? Your implication is that everyone who designed the watch is a moron. Again, that says alot about you.
I must have struck a nerve - too bad. Physical wheels and such are antiquated in the digital age. Haven't you noticed the iPod Classic is history. Grow up. Not everything Apple's ever made is brilliant. I don't care how many prototypes blah blah blah- It's both ugly and functions poorly. Charging every night? Yeah right.
Quite.
Problem with Slurpy is that he would have defended the Newton to its bitter end because Apple. For those of us who have elected to keep some portion of our brains for free will, however small, our reward is the ability to exercise discernment.
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Apple have failed on both counts.
please. Spend more time at the dentist instead of criticizing Mr Ive's masterpiece.
Almost all the tech sites were impressed with the digital crown.
See, you're in sop to what others say.
Try developing a mind of your own; you might like it.
I want someone to develop just one kind of band that will pair with the iPhone... a band that signals a subtle alarm to go off when the phone is just out of range (for people who are constantly losing their phone)! The battery would probably last for a week.
Benedict Evans is currently using a Moto Almost 360 and he tweeted some observations. One he said it was functional but pedantic. He said the software was missing 'delight'. Basically just a big gadget. I find those comments interesting as when I was watching the Apple Watch video and demo the first thing that stood out to me is how alive and animated the software felt. Physics engine has to be in play here. For me Android Wear is almost too perfect. It's functional but feels very cold and clinical whereas Watch OS feels more warm, vibrant and alive. More fun with more personality. Makes me wonder if there aren't certain Watch OS features that might come to iOS in a future version.
Great thing is you don't have to buy one. But you also don't have to piss on anyone who finds it interesting or who might buy one. Just because you think it's poorly implemented and unnecessary doesn't make it so.
"Apple also added a different type of input: a little Digital Crown on the side is a [SIZE=24px]clever idea[/SIZE], merging a home button and scroll wheel in one."
Now find me a legit article that says the crown is lame......
?? Dude- I never claimed I had any. Others on here agree on the crown. It's both ugly and functionally poor-how often will your fingers be touching it every time you want to do something. You'll look like you're picking lice.
And that's [SIZE=24px]persons[/SIZE] you claimed- you only sent me one.
He's talking about the skeuomorphism trend of iOS6 to imitate real world objects to ease people into new experiences by making use of familiar references. It was advocated by Scot Forstall E.g.: a leather bound calendar, a gaming table in felt, a wooden bookcase, etc.
In the end it resulted in a lot of bloatware, unnecessary slowing down simple common tasks and thus resulting in a bad user experience.
The same applies to the digital crown:
It adds complexity because it is one of many input devices on the watch. Compare this to the iPhone with a single home button.
And it is not suited for left and right handed use. Left and right handed use are going to be crucial for Ladies who are concerned about tan lines on their wrist. Alternating the watch left and right from one day to the other could solve this issue.
i know what hes referring to, but it's absurd, thus my comment. there is nothing inherently wrong w/ skeuomorphism in design. nor modernism -- they are tools in the toolbox. the desktop metaphor still exists on your main PC, does it not? visually, this crown bridges a gap between the new and the familiar. and as far as AW UX goes, id bet it does so effectively.
1) there is no evidence that the crown adds "complexity" to the AW UX. you are merely making guesses from incomplete data.
2) i dont know any ladies worried about tanlines who are in the market for smartwatches, but they are free to flip it over. the twisting dexterity needed to operate the digital crown in reverse is 100% the same as a physical crown in reverse.
An Apple watch could lead to distraction, like the smartphones, only more so.
Today, I forgot my iPhone leaving the house this morning. Haven't had it all day. I only twice went to reach for it to do some web research, and realized it was gone.
Nice not to have it as a distraction during the day.
Who needs a $349+ watch that's an extension of their iPhones? Not everyone and not a lot of people, I'm sure.
Agreed; and the watch needs to be round, much thinner and the interface needs a complete overhaul.
In short, they need to scrap the poor attempt and start again.
no, what they need is MAGIC so they can make a third-generation device this very moment, which isnt bound by the physical limitations of mankind's understanding of battery tech. then watch all the haters complain that they should have done it sooner...
huh? carrying a large cell phone while jogging is more burdensome than wearing a small watch. and potentially more expensive (my area is sketchy). we'd certainly prefer to jog w/ a watch and no phone.
do you really need somebody to explain that to you?
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Apple have failed on both counts.
doom! doooom! apple is SO DOOOOMED!!! man, you clowns. anything for page hits.
Who needs a $349+ watch that's an extension of their iPhones? Not everyone and not a lot of people, I'm sure.
yeah guess we'll find out when it hits the market, huh?
what amazes me is that despite the decades of success apple has had iterating version-1 products into wildly successful lifestyle items, the bitter techopriests still cant see the forest from the trees.... "It'll never fly, Orville!"
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Hardly.
Dude- Send me a link to your "legit tech persons". LOL
LOL. I did not get slurped.in fact he got pazuzued dude.
I could care less that that watch is round square or rectangled- that crown is LAME.
At least that's modern- no Scott Forstall "digital crown" aka scroll wheel.
It does look modern and not sure if you're being sarcastic but Forstall didn't make the digital crown.
But I agree, like required iPhone tethering, that crown thing needs to be REMOVED by next gen.
Agreed; and the watch needs to be round, much thinner and the interface needs a complete overhaul.
In short, they need to scrap the poor attempt and start again.
Personally I never understood the 'step' tracking phenomenon.
its pretty easy to understand -- most americans are too sedentary and fat. studies have shown that, not surprisingly, walking several miles a day helps you be less fat.
we love tracking our steps. having a visualizer for our progress encourages us to "beat" the goal, ala game theory. its worked for myself and my SO, we're thrilled to have the motion co-processor in our iphone 5s
And hence, no need for an ?Watch.
At least that's modern- no Scott Forstall "digital crown" aka scroll wheel.
Yeah, I'll trust Ive's design sense more than that of a troll like you - since he's actually proven himself, you know, a million times over.
I'm always in awe of people like you, who posess so little humility, and have no hesitation in bash something created by people who are known to be the best in their fields, in such a kneejerk fashion. You think during the 3 years of development, Ive and team didn't try 10,000 different prototypes? You think you have more insight into what works and looks better than they do, based on the millions of hrs of testing they've done? The design is not your cup of tea, fine. But I think the abject mockery, coming from people like you and others, is pretty damn sickening- and reveals more about your character than the watch itself. Especially since you don't have one second of hands-on time with the digital crown, nor the watch itself. What fucking qualifies you to dish out such mockery? Your implication is that everyone who designed the watch is a moron. Again, that says alot about you.
Too many words, Slurpy; get over yourself.
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Apple have failed on both counts.
Yeah, I'll trust Ive's design sense more than that of a troll like you - since he's actually proven himself, you know, a million times over.
I'm always in awe of people like you, who posess so little humility, and have no hesitation in bash something created by people who are known to be the best in their fields, in such a kneejerk fashion. You think during the 3 years of development, Ive and team didn't try 10,000 different prototypes? You think you have more insight into what works and looks better than they do, based on the millions of hrs of testing they've done? The design is not your cup of tea, fine. But I think the abject mockery, coming from people like you and others, is pretty damn sickening- and reveals more about your character than the watch itself. Especially since you don't have one second of hands-on time with the digital crown, nor the watch itself. What fucking qualifies you to dish out such mockery? Your implication is that everyone who designed the watch is a moron. Again, that says alot about you.
I must have struck a nerve - too bad. Physical wheels and such are antiquated in the digital age. Haven't you noticed the iPod Classic is history. Grow up. Not everything Apple's ever made is brilliant. I don't care how many prototypes blah blah blah- It's both ugly and functions poorly. Charging every night? Yeah right.
Quite.
Problem with Slurpy is that he would have defended the Newton to its bitter end because Apple. For those of us who have elected to keep some portion of our brains for free will, however small, our reward is the ability to exercise discernment.
Too many words, Slurpy; get over yourself.
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Apple have failed on both counts.
please. Spend more time at the dentist instead of criticizing Mr Ive's masterpiece.
Almost all the tech sites were impressed with the digital crown.
See, you're in sop to what others say.
Try developing a mind of your own; you might like it.
?? Dude- I never claimed I had any. Others on here agree on the crown. It's both ugly and functionally poor-how often will your fingers be touching it every time you want to do something. You'll look like you're picking lice.
And that's [SIZE=24px]persons[/SIZE] you claimed- you only sent me one.
Not really?
The question mark, as opposed to a period or other invective punctuation, pretty much says it all.
But it's not a watch.
(Let me guess: you find five-minute quantization more useful than a physical controller.)
He's talking about the skeuomorphism trend of iOS6 to imitate real world objects to ease people into new experiences by making use of familiar references. It was advocated by Scot Forstall E.g.: a leather bound calendar, a gaming table in felt, a wooden bookcase, etc.
In the end it resulted in a lot of bloatware, unnecessary slowing down simple common tasks and thus resulting in a bad user experience.
The same applies to the digital crown:
i know what hes referring to, but it's absurd, thus my comment. there is nothing inherently wrong w/ skeuomorphism in design. nor modernism -- they are tools in the toolbox. the desktop metaphor still exists on your main PC, does it not? visually, this crown bridges a gap between the new and the familiar. and as far as AW UX goes, id bet it does so effectively.
1) there is no evidence that the crown adds "complexity" to the AW UX. you are merely making guesses from incomplete data.
2) i dont know any ladies worried about tanlines who are in the market for smartwatches, but they are free to flip it over. the twisting dexterity needed to operate the digital crown in reverse is 100% the same as a physical crown in reverse.
This watch may be just fine for a lot of people.
An Apple watch could lead to distraction, like the smartphones, only more so.
Today, I forgot my iPhone leaving the house this morning. Haven't had it all day. I only twice went to reach for it to do some web research, and realized it was gone.
Nice not to have it as a distraction during the day.
Who needs a $349+ watch that's an extension of their iPhones? Not everyone and not a lot of people, I'm sure.
Who needs a $349+ watch that's an extension of their iPhones? Not everyone and not a lot of people, I'm sure.
People stupid enough to buy a phone too large to be used as a phone.
?Watch and iPhone 6 Plus sounds like a cha-ching combination. A fool and his money, you see. Still, I like the idea of ?Watch in its own right.
Agreed; and the watch needs to be round, much thinner and the interface needs a complete overhaul.
In short, they need to scrap the poor attempt and start again.
no, what they need is MAGIC so they can make a third-generation device this very moment, which isnt bound by the physical limitations of mankind's understanding of battery tech. then watch all the haters complain that they should have done it sooner...
you guys are pathetic. and tired.
And hence, no need for an ?Watch.
huh? carrying a large cell phone while jogging is more burdensome than wearing a small watch. and potentially more expensive (my area is sketchy). we'd certainly prefer to jog w/ a watch and no phone.
do you really need somebody to explain that to you?
If you had an ounce of sense, you would realise that the digital crown on the ?Watch was a clunky mistake that compromises the user experience. User experience and style are the most important factors for potential buyers of the ?Watch.
Apple have failed on both counts.
doom! doooom! apple is SO DOOOOMED!!! man, you clowns. anything for page hits.
Who needs a $349+ watch that's an extension of their iPhones? Not everyone and not a lot of people, I'm sure.
yeah guess we'll find out when it hits the market, huh?
what amazes me is that despite the decades of success apple has had iterating version-1 products into wildly successful lifestyle items, the bitter techopriests still cant see the forest from the trees.... "It'll never fly, Orville!"